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MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: 2005B12S on November 14, 2005, 05:09:55 PM

Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 14, 2005, 05:09:55 PM
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/GS750ED/P1010300.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/GS750ED/P1010302.jpg)


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/GS750ED/P1010304.jpg)



Here she is as of 11-13-05,  1100 miles to date.

1.5in drop in the triples
Pro Tek clip-ons
Race Tech fork springs (10's)
Galfer lines
Holeshot fork brace
Holeshot +5 advancer
Holeshot PAIR removal
Yoshimura RS3 titanium slip-on w/midpipe
Ivan's jet kit w/airbox mod
NRC engine covers (waiting on left cover)
Zero gravity smoke screen


Front end feels much more planted with no chatter or uneasiness under load over rippled pavement. Front brakes are a two finger item now with no fade. Still undecided on the rear, plan to leave it alone for now. Dunlop 208ZR's in the mail, once these are mounted, the shortcomings in the rear will surface. We will see how she does with premium sticky rubber.

Future plans are RS36 flatslides and .360 lift cams.

Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 14, 2005, 06:46:37 PM
BTW,

no cure on the rear brake with the Galfer line and a fresh bleed. It is still ineffective. Not really a concern as I never use it

Windscreen resonates loudly, I lined the inside of the faring with Roadkill- the sound dampning material found at audio shops- the fairing appears to be quieter, but the new windscreen drowns everything out. I will have to completely rubbermount it using Roadkill.

The Galfer clutch line is best run between the #1 and #2 carb and the airbox. This is a straight shot with no possable kinks-check photo-. The stock line goes around the outside of the airbox on the left side

The choke is still unuseable, it is too rich. The bike will not idle up on it when cold. 15 seconds on and it must be full off- the bike will then idle on its own with an occasional blip on the throttle required. Has anyone else had this problem?
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Doch80 on November 15, 2005, 02:33:53 AM
Man, that's a pretty lookin' bike!  So dam clean!... and the headers look spotless!  Mine are getting a little to "gold" for my taste so I'm thinking about painting them black as posted recently by someone else.  I'm a big fan of your clip-ons.  I don't really like handlebars in general just b/c of the look.  I'm farily young so my back and rists(spelling) can take it.  I just don't know about raising the forks any.  I can put them under the top clamp but that could be getting a little to low even for me.  Plus I don't know about clearence issues though it doesn't look to be a problem.  

Anyways, smooth looking bike!

Chad
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Atomicmoondog on November 15, 2005, 09:06:25 AM
Chad,
I just installed new bars on my '05 B12S.
Somewhere in between clip-ons and stock.
Check my web site.
http://www.freewebs.com/atomicmoondog/index.htm
Got 'em from suburban-machinery.

http://www.suburban-machinery.com/hbindex.htm

They totally change the responsiveness of the bike.
I use the Suzuki smoke screen, which is a little higher than stock.
With these bars, I am tucked in a little better and buffeting is greatly reduced.
Add the Metzelers, and this is a totally different bike.

Suspension uprades coming next (front and rear).
Then the slip-on and jet kit.

-Moondog
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Desolation Angel on November 15, 2005, 09:13:44 AM
At first I didn't like all the stickers, but after looking at them for awhile I've decided they're cool.
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Ar-Bandit on November 15, 2005, 09:32:07 AM
bike looks good
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 15, 2005, 10:15:01 AM
Thanks Guys,

Chad, clip-ons won't fit under the top triple and still clear the S bodywork. You must either use a replacement tubular bar or mount clip-ons above the triple. The only way to do that is to raise the tubes. The B12 is very conserative as far as rake/trail, a 1-1.5in drop in the triples makes the bike steer quicker without sacraficing stability or ground clearance.

The bike stays clean because I don't commute on it. It is a fair weather machine, it has been years since I rode in the rain.

Thanks again, Ed
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Doch80 on November 15, 2005, 05:11:21 PM
Moondog,

I have the same bars you do.  I got them a few years ago... summer of 2001 I think.  I think the bars are much better then stock (for what I wanted) but I'm still dreaming of clip-ons.  I did take all the fairing off of mine in place for two headlights so the plastic wouldn't be an issue.  They would just be so low I don't know if they would interfere with turning lock.  Furtunatly for me I've spent my "bike allowence" I've set aside for the next few months so I can't really worry about that right now.  

Chad

http://www.bikepics.com/members/doch80/
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Atomicmoondog on November 15, 2005, 05:26:03 PM
Cool.
I'm not as young as you (51 years old!)
I travel back and forth, between Austin and Houston often (and love twistin' through the Texas Hill Country).
I don't think that I could handle being any lower.
I must say that these new bars are better (for me) on the Highway than the stock set-up.
Might be some funky body-type, genetic thing.   :duh:

-Moondog
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Doch80 on November 15, 2005, 05:42:47 PM
well, to tell you the truth, with the stock bars my I had backpain after riding awhile.  With the new bars, my backpain went way.  My wrists and hands don't feel all that well but I'm much more comfortable now.... plus you can tuck yourself away under the fairing much more easily.
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 16, 2005, 12:50:29 AM
I did not like the stock bar before I bought the bike. I had <50 miles on the bike when I ordered the clip-ons. I disliked the full upright riding position and most importantly, did not feel connected to the front tire at all. That was a strange new experience.

Coming off my TL1000S, I felt like I was sitting in a recliner with the front wheel in the next room.


(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/GS750ED/P1010215.jpg)


It all depends what you are used to. For me, the bars and drop in the triples makes it feel more natural- like a sportbike.

I knew with its bulletproof powerplant, the B12 would make an excellent street hot rod- with a few modifications.

Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED[/img]
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Doch80 on November 16, 2005, 01:11:02 AM
If you don't mind me asking, why did you go from a TL1000S to a bandit?  If I were to do it all over again I would go with the TL1000S to be honest.  I first saw one in California after buying the Bandit and thought to myself "Crap, why didn't I know about this bike!" :duh:   Oh well, I'm happy with the bandit!  I still have it anyways and don't want to let it go.

Chad
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Red01 on November 16, 2005, 01:39:39 AM
Quote from: "2005B12S"
It all depends what you are used to. For me, the bars and drop in the triples makes it feel more natural- like a sportbike.


True! Coming from a long line of dirt bikes and classic UJM's, the B12's handlebars were a bit low for me and took a little getting used to... despite having a GS750 and a RD350 with clubman bars way back when.

 :motorsmile:  :bigok:  :beers:  :grin:
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 16, 2005, 11:00:47 AM
Quote from: "Doch80"
If you don't mind me asking, why did you go from a TL1000S to a bandit?  If I were to do it all over again I would go with the TL1000S to be honest.  I first saw one in California after buying the Bandit and thought to myself "Crap, why didn't I know about this bike!" :duh:   Oh well, I'm happy with the bandit!  I still have it anyways and don't want to let it go.

Chad




I bought the TL when my '83 GS750ED went down in 2003 for a long haul rebuild- big bore motor with suspension/wheels update. I got a smoking deal on the TL, it was a 2001 with 1500 miles when I got it. The TL was a blast to ride and sounded incredible with the Yosh race pipes, but was an absolute nightmare to work on. Very compact frame- 55in wheelbase- shim under bucket valvetrain, EFI ...ect. You cannot even do a plug check on the front cylinder without unbolting the radiator.

Being an old air cooled GS guy, it was fun to ride but no fun to tinker with.
My ideal bike is a 1988-1990 GSXR1100. I have looked for a clean one for 3+ years with no luck. Prisine examples are rare and go for around $4500-$5000. I could not see paying that much for a 15+ year old bike.

Wanting to stay with an air/oil cooled tappet adjuster motor, the B12 was a compromise. I got a deal on my 2005, $6499 new and figured it would take about $1500 to get it like I wanted. The B12 is a keeper, with the tons of aftermarket parts available, she will be going strong in 20 yrs.

Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 16, 2005, 11:07:11 AM
Quote from: "Red01"
Quote from: "2005B12S"
It all depends what you are used to. For me, the bars and drop in the triples makes it feel more natural- like a sportbike.


True! Coming from a long line of dirt bikes and classic UJM's, the B12's handlebars were a bit low for me and took a little getting used to... despite having a GS750 and a RD350 with clubman bars way back when.

 :motorsmile:  :bigok:  :beers:  :grin:




RD350, now someone is showing their age  :lol:

What year GS750 did you have?
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Red01 on November 16, 2005, 07:31:25 PM
Quote from: "2005B12S"
What year GS750 did you have?

The first year (in the US anyway), 1977. Bought it new.

The only pic I have of it online is this one (http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suz-gsx750-77-bikepics-19712.jpg) taken just a few days before I took off on a little ride from one Washington (the state) to the other (D.C.) in the summer of '77. The clubmans didn't go onto it until after I got to the east coast.
(Damn, I wish I was that skinny again!)

Don't seem to have a pic of the RD with clubmans either, but this is what it looked like just before the cafe style fiberglass front fender and clubmans went on. (http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/yam-rd350-75-bikepics-19711.jpg)
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: PaulVS on November 16, 2005, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: "Red01"
Quote from: "2005B12S"
What year GS750 did you have?

The first year (in the US anyway), 1977. Bought it new.

The only pic I have of it online is this one (http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suz-gsx750-77-bikepics-19712.jpg) taken just a few days before I took off on a little ride from one Washington (the state) to the other (D.C.) in the summer of '77. The clubmans didn't go onto it until after I got to the east coast.
(Damn, I wish I was that skinny again!)

Don't seem to have a pic of the RD with clubmans either, but this is what it looked like just before the cafe style fiberglass front fender and clubmans went on. (http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/yam-rd350-75-bikepics-19711.jpg)


Damn...

Reminds me of 1978.  I was 18 years old and just bought a new '78 CB750F.  I was already jealous of those DOC GS's.

And I was 6'2", 170lbs back then myself.  Damn again.
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Desolation Angel on November 16, 2005, 08:57:59 PM
Speaking of 1978...

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/DesolationAngels/1978SuzukiGS750E4.jpg)

GS750E.  I miss that thing.  Tried to find a mint example to buy over a period of months and never could.
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Red01 on November 16, 2005, 10:25:59 PM
Back in the '77 pic I was 145 lbs... I'm 235 now.  :sad:
I'm still 6' tall though...  :lol:
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: Red01 on November 16, 2005, 10:29:35 PM
Quote from: "PaulVS"
Reminds me of 1978.  I was 18 years old and just bought a new '78 CB750F.  I was already jealous of those DOC GS's.


Then why'd ya buy the more expensive Honda? :tongue:

I was torn between the GS and a KZ900/1000, but the reviews of the Suzuki's better handling lured me - and almost as fast 1/4 mile times and top speed didn't hurt any. (My friend's KZ900 could only pull me by ~1-2 mph across out top secret test track in the Kalifornya desert.)

I was a little jealous of the '78 GS750E with it's alloy wheels and twin discs... then the GS1000's came out and I started drooling for a GS1000S, but by then, married life and kids put a damper on buying a new bike. (That where the RD fit into the picture.)
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: PaulVS on November 16, 2005, 10:53:48 PM
Probably because my dad had a CB500-4 at the time.   :wink:
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on November 16, 2005, 11:33:22 PM
Very nice guys,

the B12 will stand the test of time just like the classic GS750/1000/1100.

I have the first year GS750 Superbike (new 750cc class in 1983) with aluminum swingarm/monoshock, 16in front, and TSCC 16v motor. Here it is back in 1988 when it had its first rebuild.

(http://www.thegsresources.com/_gallery/images/0303-1.jpg)

Kevin Schwantz rode a Yosh prepped '83 against the GPZ750 and VF750- Interceptor that year. They are all now classics.

Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200Sz
1983 GS750ED
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: BOGOTA BANDIT on January 16, 2006, 10:54:01 PM
THE BIKE LOOKS REALLY GOOD WITH THE YOSHI PIPE AND BET IT
SOUNDS EVEN BETTER.  I LIKE WHAT YOU DID  ...
I HAVE THE SAME EXACT BIKE.  
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED CHANGING THE SEAT OUT TO A RACING
SEAT?
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: rider123 on January 17, 2006, 02:41:03 PM
This is the bike I will be selling this spring. It even has a brand new 1 day old charging system as I thought I was going to ride it another season before the dealer made me an offer on a 2005 bandit 1200 I couldn't refuse  :grin:

1984 GS750EF Canadian Full fairing model.
(http://209.89.24.91/gs.jpg)


It has 7000 Kms on a top end rebuild a Yosh pipe that someone has actually jetted properly and all the intruments and guages work perfectly. The paint's pretty good on it too. I'm going to miss her. She pretty fast.
Title: 2005 B12 Mods
Post by: 2005B12S on January 18, 2006, 05:34:14 PM
Quote from: "BOGOTA BANDIT"
THE BIKE LOOKS REALLY GOOD WITH THE YOSHI PIPE AND BET IT
SOUNDS EVEN BETTER.  I LIKE WHAT YOU DID  ...
I HAVE THE SAME EXACT BIKE.  
HAVE YOU CONSIDERED CHANGING THE SEAT OUT TO A RACING
SEAT?






Thanks, I would have bought one if I could find one. The seat was recovered, I built up the rear portion to keep my a$$ from sliding back when running it hard.