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MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: redbandit12 on February 27, 2008, 09:30:19 AM

Title: caliper swap
Post by: redbandit12 on February 27, 2008, 09:30:19 AM

i wanna swap my front calipers on my 1st gen b12 i have seen where the 2nd gens have better brakes and it is a bolt on swap. why are they better? what else will swap?

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: PaulVS on February 27, 2008, 10:25:42 AM

The 2nd Gen are 3-pad design vs. the 1st Gen 2-pad.

There are many Suzuki models that share the same 3-pad brakes, including the Hayabusa and some GSXR's I believe.

However, I personally would invest the money in stainless steel brake lines and good (Carbone Lorraine or DP) brake pads.  Your 2-pad brakes with those upgrades would be better than my 3-pad 2nd Gen brakes without 'em.

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: Red01 on February 29, 2008, 04:55:50 PM

Actually, both the 1G & 2G B12 calipers use 2 pads per caliper.  The difference is the 1G B12 has 4-piston calipers and the 2G B12 has 6-piston calipers.
(The 3G B12 & 4G B12.5 have 4-piston calipers, too.)

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: solman on March 02, 2008, 01:57:24 AM

Quote from: Red01 on February 29, 2008, 04:55:50 PM

Actually, both the 1G & 2G B12 calipers use 2 pads per caliper.  The difference is the 1G B12 has 4-piston calipers and the 2G B12 has 6-piston calipers.
(The 3G B12 & 4G B12.5 have 4-piston calipers, too.)

I think he meant 3 piston pads compared to 2 pistons pads.

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: PaulVS on March 02, 2008, 08:08:48 AM

I think we're both right, but Red is more accurate in the actual difference between them.

Still think the s/s lines & pads would be a better investment though.

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: solman on March 02, 2008, 09:19:29 AM

Quote from: PaulVS on March 02, 2008, 08:08:48 AM

I think we're both right, but Red is more accurate in the actual difference between them.

Still think the s/s lines & pads would be a better investment though.

I agree, that is the route I would go.  Also notice that they don't use the six pot brakes anymore either.

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: Pillage on March 02, 2008, 10:11:30 AM

Quote from: solman on March 02, 2008, 09:19:29 AM

Quote from: PaulVS on March 02, 2008, 08:08:48 AM

Still think the s/s lines & pads would be a better investment though.

I agree, that is the route I would go.

Absolutely, my old G1 with softer pads (I'll have to check what I ended up changing to) and stainless braided lines stops even better than it already did in the first place.

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: redbandit12 on March 15, 2008, 02:06:06 PM

have to agree. i added s.s lines and the Carbone Lorraine bake pads.
 STOPIES :clap:

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: chevsuz12 on March 16, 2008, 02:22:48 AM

I swapped my 1st gen calipers for Hayabusa takeoffs that I got from Ebay for $25.00

They worked perfectly.  And much cheaper than getting the braided hoses.

Huge difference in braking.

Title: Re: caliper swap
Post by: Red01 on March 25, 2008, 02:52:30 PM

Quote from: chevsuz12 on March 16, 2008, 02:22:48 AM

I swapped my 1st gen calipers for Hayabusa takeoffs that I got from Ebay for $25.00

They worked perfectly.  And much cheaper than getting the braided hoses.

Huge difference in braking.

And FWIW - these are the same calipers the 2G B12 comes with.  Several other bikes used 'em, too, including some Kawasaki's - and the Kawi calipers often came in gold instead of black.