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MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: 97 bandit on October 02, 2005, 11:47:34 PM

Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 02, 2005, 11:47:34 PM
How many drag race their Bandits?

Their needs to be a dragstrip section on here. I'm not worried about going through the twisties or packing some luggage for traveling. I'm 39 years old and I like putting the hurt to all these young punks I have around here who ride around on their stock little crotch rockets. They have an attitude bigger than their bike! I've been drag racing bikes for 30 years (started with a Yamaha 80cc!) I've had a CBX, GS 1100e, V-Max, FJ 1100, XS 1100, Kaw 750 triple, and a ZX 1100!! All of them came and went but for some reason I"m really attached to my Bandit.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: jwalters on October 03, 2005, 02:06:13 AM
Central Illinois huh, does that mean you hang out at Cordova?   Land_shark and I head up to Earlville, Iowa to the 1/4 mile there once in a while.  Although we havn't run our bikes yet.  I see quite a few other bandit or bandit engines up there.

A friend of mine has a pro stock gsxr with one of your gs 1100 engines in it.  From what I've heard they can be punched out to ~1500cc.  I had never been to a drag strip before this summer, but he got me interested in hanging out at Earlville's strip, and for over a month straight I was there every weekend!  Here is a pic of his bike.
http://tarzan.eng.uiowa.edu:8080/cgi-bin/ids/index.cgi?mode=image&album=/earlville&image=08.14.05%20025.jpg

Anyway, if you are ever up there, send us a message!  It's fun just to hang out at the strip, ya know!
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 03, 2005, 09:38:49 AM
:lol: I'm 58 years old, and have been dragracing for a long time. I am now thinking about running the Texas Mile, on the 22nd and 23rd of this month. It should be fun. :beers:
Title: Re: How many drag race their Bandits?
Post by: txbanditrydr on October 03, 2005, 10:37:10 AM
Quote from: "97 bandit"
Their needs to be a dragstrip section on here.


Send a P/M to one of the admins and I'll bet they set one up for ya!!  I think it's a great idea... wouldn't mind having all the drag info in one place.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on October 03, 2005, 08:24:14 PM
How about a sticky thread for drag racers right here in the performance section?

If it get's too busy/big we can think about a separate drag racing section.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on October 03, 2005, 08:25:30 PM
I`m with you guys, love to hear the 1200 scream for mercy at the big end. Riding twisties with my friends is alot of fun also. Thats why I`m working on the sceond bike and yes it is going to be another bandit. Had the chance to buy a busa cheap, but couldn`t bring myself to do it. Have a 1246 sitting under the bench waiting for a bike. Also have a 99 600 that I just started putting a kat 750 motor in for a friend/ teamate. He is only 135lbs at about 5'3". Love to race
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on October 03, 2005, 11:28:15 PM
Hey jwalters, Tell your buddy thats a pretty sweat bike. In the last pic it looks like he is out of the grove. I think thats a trait of a flat tire bike. btw in MD you`ll never see a bike and car race at the drag strip. Too dangerous. Hope to have my next bike done by spring :?:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on October 04, 2005, 12:56:27 AM
Quote from: "jwalters"
A friend of mine has a pro stock gsxr with one of your gs 1100 engines in it.  From what I've heard they can be punched out to ~1500cc.


The Bandit motor can see that kind of displacement, too with a stroker crank - which the GS motors need to go that big, too.

I'm not an expert on drag racing, but from what I've gleaned from reading Pro-Stock rules don't allow 4-valve motors that much displacement, which is why they use the old GS 2-valve motors. Pro-Street does allow 1500cc Bandits, but they can't run wheelie bars and run on DOT tires.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 04, 2005, 09:58:44 PM
Now thats what I'm talking about! I'd like to put a 1216 kit in from JE Pistons with the 13:1 compression. I know, I know, I would have to run race fuel! I'm prepared to do so. I don't really go on that long of trips anyway to worry about using alot of fuel. I bet with that kind of compression the Bandit sounds sweet running through an open V&H pro pipe.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: yoshiman on October 05, 2005, 05:03:22 AM
Interested to hear what sort of numbers you guys are running at the strip on your Bandits. Bike specs and rider weights would be helpful.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on October 05, 2005, 05:42:19 AM
Hi
Here is my post from earlier this year.

"Hi
Just thought I would show off and let you guys know what happened at the NZ Drag Nationals in the weekend.
I won the DYO Street bike class on my GS1200SS..So I'm the new Street Bike National champion." :grin:
Here is a pic of the Trophy.
 (http://rrracing.co.nz/pics/Trophy.jpg)
The bike.
(http://rrracing.co.nz/pics/GS1200SS.jpg)
Time slips...I'm bike 917
(http://rrracing.co.nz/pics/Elimination.jpg)


Since then I learned that my GS1200SS is SPEED limited to 180kph.That explains the 114mph top speed.It was just hitting the limiter at the top end.
Still it helped my consistency which never hurts in DYO racing.
Thanks
Bstard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 05, 2005, 09:54:20 PM
Have you guys checked out the competion at this website? www.zrxoa.com
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on October 05, 2005, 11:17:44 PM
Quote from: "97 bandit"
Have you guys checked out the competion at this website? www.zrxoa.com

I hate to say it, but I always did like those bikes. Luckily a buddy of mine is a big kaw fan and heated rivalry between us keep me from buying one. Pretty close at the drag strip too.
bstard, :congrats: on the win. Keep up the good work.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: jwalters on October 06, 2005, 12:57:33 AM
Sorry to throw this thread on another tangent, but did anyone see that SpeedTv's Pinks episode with the suzuki 1100e vs VRod.  I was glad to see the Suzuki won even after giving the Harley time to cool down, and a bike length lead.  Oh ya, it was a third of the cost too!   :banana:

jesse
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 06, 2005, 09:24:59 AM
Quote from: "jwalters"
Sorry to throw this thread on another tangent, but did anyone see that SpeedTv's Pinks episode with the suzuki 1100e vs VRod.  

Speed \TV is going to be at the Texas Mile this month for some 1 mile speed compitition for pinks.
http://www.texasmile.com/
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 06, 2005, 06:53:32 PM
Excellent! Yes I did see that episode of pinks. Typical Harley rider-full of excuses! I'd love to see some racing from the Texas mile! SWEET!
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on October 06, 2005, 09:17:08 PM
This may sound strange, but it goes right to the v-rod vs suzuki . A few years ago I met my half brother (some father), since we met we were always trying to find stuff to be brother with, you know cars, bikes, boats, etc. Well at the begining of summer he bougth it # 17 of 50 tribal paint scheme V- Rods. He ammediately called me. We went for are first ride :blah: . Then he did it, setting at a red light he starts revving his engine like he wants to race. The first time I let him go. The next light he ask me if I was scared of the v-rod. I hate street racing, but theres no way I`m going to let my new older bro insult the bandit. We raced he lost , now when we ride together he stays behind me. We still play around a little bit , but keep it safe.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 07, 2005, 06:03:15 AM
Thats good! I love it! Next time you see him ask him how it feels to have pissed away the better part of $20,000!
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: yoshiman on October 08, 2005, 08:07:56 PM
So nobody apart from Bstard and BHolland drag race their Bandits! C'mon guys, lets have those numbers!
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 09, 2005, 05:35:45 PM
BHolland-Whats all done to your Bandit to get 155 hp?
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Mongo on October 10, 2005, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: "97 bandit"
Have you guys checked out the competion at this website? www.zrxoa.com


Talk to turbo-bob

(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/mongo995/9_10_05_004.jpg)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/mongo995/9_10_05_A_005.jpg)
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 10, 2005, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: "97 bandit"
BHolland-Whats all done to your Bandit to get 155 hp?

1998 Suzuki Bandit, J&E 13 to 1- 1246 Piston Kit, Lazer Level 3 Ported Head w/ over-size stainless steel, 30mm intake and 26mm exhaust valves, APE bronze valve guides, Heavy Duty Valve Springs. CamMotion G21 Cams w/ Slotted Sprockets,set at 105 intake / 106 exhaust center lobe. Mikuni 38mm Flatslide Carbs with K-N Pod Filters, Quarter Turn Throttle. 4” over swing arm, HEL Oversized Oil Cooler w/ SS Lines, Hindle SS Exhaust, Holeshot Power Shifter3, Pingel High Flow Petcock,  GSXR Clutch GSXR 1100, Cable clutch conversion, Shock Rebuilt by Lindeman Front Forks Rebuilt by Lindeman, LSL Rearsets, Tokico 6 Pot Brakes w/ SS Lines, Dyna 2000 ignition. 155 RWH, 94 ft lb torque
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 11, 2005, 07:07:36 PM
Sounds great! I was thinking about the cable clutch conversion myself. I know the katana 600 set up works. What about other suzuki's and what years do I need to look for?
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 11, 2005, 07:47:31 PM
I am using the Katana conversion from e-bay, $9.00, and I had to buy a new cable. Any of the oil cooled gsxrs, with cable clutch should work, like the older GSXR 750s.
About horsepower, you need to keep in mind, that Horsepower is a caculation, based on torque. My bike makes 155 hp, 81.4 torque at 10,000 rpms. I could advance the cam timing so that it makes the 81.4 torque at 9,500 and it would make 147 horse power, and it would probabley be just as quick in the quarter even with less hp, may even be a little quicker in the 1/8. We should never get hung up on hp numbers.
My last dragbike was a GSXR with a 1216 kit, stock head, cams and carbs, but was set up just for the 1/4 mile, ran 9.60s at 133/135 mph, with less hp.
Setup gives you good ETs, Horsepower will give you good MPH
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 97 bandit on October 18, 2005, 11:11:22 PM
How does the factory starter handle the 13:1 compression? Any problems with it so far?
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 19, 2005, 01:13:05 PM
The starter does fine with 13.5 to 1.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: ttewejnodnarb on October 24, 2005, 04:29:50 PM
Hi,

Sorry to butt in with what may well be a stupid question...

Where you required to do a cable clutch conversion due to building a stronger clutch with other parts not compatible with the stock hydraulic clutch or would it be possible/lend any advantage to do the conversion without swaping any other parts?

 :thanks: in advance even if this may be mechanics 101!
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 24, 2005, 05:23:06 PM
The cable clutch is for a better feel, or better control leaving the line,  for dragracing. It would be a waste for street riding.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on October 24, 2005, 09:32:31 PM
Isn't the cable system a few ounces lighter than the hydraulic, too?
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on October 24, 2005, 10:36:16 PM
It would be some lighter, but that wouldn't help me, I've gone from 216 lbs to 240lbs in the last 18 months. It probabley want run in the 9s with me on it. :beers:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on October 25, 2005, 01:40:23 AM
Ah ha! So you went to a cable clutch so you could have another pitcher and a pizza... but couldn't stop.  :stickpoke:

(I'm not getting any lighter either and weigh about the same as you.)  :motorsmile:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on December 16, 2005, 06:48:33 PM
Hi
Just a note to let you guys know how my Drag racing season is going.
First meeting was a two day event that got washed out on the second day.
I was the only bike to enter in my class "DYO" so I should have got 100 points automatically and then allowed to race in the "Comp" bike class.
Well I didn't know that I would be racing for their prize money but not their points.So I in my first round I took a dive.
I had talked to the guy I was up against and I didn't think it was fair that I could knock him out of his competition even though I couldn't win that competition myself.
So I sat up at 2/3,s track and gave him the win.
The second day was rained out so in the end our organizing body NZDRA decided that there wouldn't be any points awarded to anyone as the finals were not run.
So I rode for 8hrs to get there and payed for two nights in a motel and I didn't get nothing !

Second meeting was at my home track and apart from turning up late and missing the first practice run I did OK.
Well real good actually I won my class.
My times were real consistent.
11.68 @ 113kph
11.77 @ 111kph
11.72 @ 114kph...not fast but I'm a fat bastard and I'm not thrashing this bike.
But my reaction times were what I liked !!!
We run a .400 full tree and I did...
.475
.461
.445
So I got my full 100 points for winning and $100 prize money.But the icing on the cake was that this year the DYO bikes can set their own National records.So as, no one had applyed for the record, I did.
So I am now the New Zealand Record holder of the A/Modified Bike class.
Not a bad weekend.
Next race is on Jan 2nd at New Zealand's newest drag way.
Should be fun racing on a new track.
Thanks
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: slo coach on December 16, 2005, 08:38:16 PM
richard...where is that new track?


   thanks slo coach
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on December 16, 2005, 08:59:50 PM
Hi
Taupo
http://www.lid.co.nz/
Should be fun...I'v never raced at a twilight meeting before.
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on February 14, 2006, 07:52:57 PM
Hi
Whats everybodys best reation time ?

I will go first with a 0.023.

What are most of you guys getting ?
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on February 16, 2006, 11:14:39 PM
Quote from: "bstard"
Hi
Whats everybodys best reation time ?

I will go first with a 0.023.

What are most of you guys getting ?
Richard

best time .006  worst time -.001
 Racing starts up agin in 3 weeks. 3 weeks to do everything I did not do in the last three months.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on February 17, 2006, 03:32:14 AM
Hi
OK...I have alot more work to do I see.

12sdrag...Can you tell me how consistent you guys are with your good
reaction times.Do you get under 0.020 consistently thruout the day ?

I think my best day was 0.070..0.043...0.045...0.034...0.023  for the day.
Bstard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on February 17, 2006, 09:44:08 PM
I wish I could say I `m real consistent. But, I`m not. I do get some good times but, for the most part I`m concentrating on the bike and what it will do in the first 100 feet. I`m not good enuff to get a good reaction time and a good 60 foot time. I would say your times are not that bad. How long have you been racing?  I know for me, I red light more then having .00- times. I just hope that I can race this year? Last year I did not race at all.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on February 18, 2006, 06:00:18 AM
Hi
I have been racing the GS1200SS for 1&1/2 seasons.My reaction times have been getting better as I get more seat time.Compared to most of the guys I compete against my reactions times are real good.Thats why I'm having a good season.
Raced again today but it was at NZ,s newest track and I spun it up in the final and lost.The track needs more work but it might end up NZ,s fastest track in the end.
Still I got 97 points to add to my Points Series total.
I have found that most of the guys that I am racing against are new to the game and cant seem to understand that it is consistency that will win in our class.
Any how...I  had a good day and I,m confident of putting in a good show at our National in about a months time...I won it last season.
Bstard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: slo coach on February 19, 2006, 07:54:01 PM
bstard...its slo...considering our motors are similar your timesare way in front of my few attempts..i always think i do okay untill they give me my time slip...what mods have you done .filters ? jetting?? what brand of carbs are on your bike?? cheers slo
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on February 20, 2006, 08:48:51 AM
Hi
My bike is absolutely standard.No pipes/filters or anything different.
I don't want to change any thing as I need it to be consistent not fast.
Thats why alot of guys have trouble getting DYO racing sussed.They keep trying different things to go faster when they should be trying to get used to what their bike does as it is.
The GS1200SS model has a speed limiter on it so I will only ever get 180kph out of it as thats when the limiter comes in.
But as for the reaction times...well thats down to time in the seat at the track.
Here is what I do.
When you stage only just roll the front wheel into the second beam just enough to bring on the stage light.Do not move any farther forward than you need to.
Then as the amber lights count down you go the split second the third/last amber comes on.By the time the front wheel has rolled out of the beam the green light should be just coming on.
This works well until you get used to it.You will find that with practice you will seem to "see" that last amber come on faster.I mean that you will actually be reacting to the amber faster and then thats when you will start to get red lights.
This is were it gets harder.You now have to see that last amber come on then hesitate before you drop the clutch because you are reacting faster and need to leave a fraction after the light cones on.
Then you have all the other variables to sort out...what rpm to launch at...dump the clutch or feed it out...how much to roll the throttle on...is the track as sticky as last time...even how much fuel you have in the tank.
Simple this straight line racing isn,t it  :grin:
Bstard

P. S. The GS1200SS comes with 32mm Keihin CVR carbs so I cannot even try any of the carb mods that are on this site.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: txbanditrydr on February 22, 2006, 11:15:07 AM
Quote from: "bstard"
Then you have all the other variables to sort out...what rpm to launch at...dump the clutch or feed it out...how much to roll the throttle on...is the track as sticky as last time...even how much fuel you have in the tank.
Simple this straight line racing isn,t it  :grin:

I was wondering if anyone would share some trade secrets for launch procedures.  What RPM's are you holding prior to launch?  Are you starting out in first or second gear?  Do you just dump the clutch or feather it out?  Any other tips for a total noob at draggin'?   I'm not looking to get into racing but doing a bike nite at the local strip might be a fun way to spend an evening.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on February 22, 2006, 08:22:43 PM
Hi
This is what I do...Remember that I,m not trying to be the fastest bike out there just the most consistent.

Stage as in the previous post.

Hold revs at 2500rpm...do not ever sit there blipping the throttle.Because if you are on the downside of a blip when your light comes on your f--ked.

When your last amber lights I let the clutch out and roll the throttle on.
I suppose I dump the clutch and roll the throttle on as hard as the track will allow.

If your motor bogs down too much then raise your launch rpm.If you spin up the rear straight away then lower your rpm.

You should leave in first gear.

It's sort of hard to explain...you have to try different things to see how they feel.
Just don't try changing anymore than one thing at a time or you will never find out which change was the one that worked.
Not sure if any of this helps or if I have just confused you more.
The first time you take your bike to the track you should just roll up to the line and take off like you do at any set of traffic lights.You will be as nervous as so it is best not to try anything fancy on your first couple of runs.
Also you don't have to rev it out to red line in every gear.I'm changing at 9000rpm on my GS1200SS.
Bstard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on February 22, 2006, 08:51:55 PM
Hey Txbanditrydr, How are you? I can tell you how I launch my bike. I try and do the same thing every time. first  I set my first bulb or pre-stage light than after my opponent sets his light ( It is unsportsman like to set both lights before the other guy sets his pre-stage light) I bring my rpm`s to 4500. I have a green piece of tape that marks the rpm that I want to be at, so I only look at my long enuff to see that mark. Then I roll into the second light or beam. I do not use the clutch to move the bike, I roll in with my feet, keeps me from changing rpms. Now I`m at the line, 4500 rpms, I only load the clutch enuff to bring revs down a litte bit, but enuff to make the bike move. When I`m on may last amber I start letting clutch out. As soon as I leave the line my eyes go back to the tech. I try to feed it enuff clutch to carry the front wheel about 1" or 2" off the ground , the key word is I try. I do not go to full tilt till the clutch is all the way out. This system works for me I`m sure other people have better procedures. This is just how I was taught.
 The reason I only leave the at 4500 is, anything higher it takes longer to get full clutch engagement. Hope this helps ? btw do you think you will make it to the rally on this side of the miss. Remember I made it all the way to AR. :stickpoke:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Dragbike on February 22, 2006, 11:28:23 PM
"Remember I made it all the way to AR." Sure do! you should make the Iron Bandit Butt Award!!! :banana:  :congrats: Larry The Cable Guy!  :stickpoke:
I am ready to go back to the Pine Lodge and play putt putt golf in the rain! :lol:
Also you might try starting in a parking lot first, you are going to spin but it will be a little like the strip, Difference is on the track the bike will go straight up in the air on the track,,,,,,,, So you have to feather the clutch either way. To start, leave the 32 PSI in the back tire. That will help keeping the wheelies to a minimum! I run 12 to 15 PSI on a street tire and 10 to 8 PSI on my Shootout and Slick tire bikes. Like everyone said "THE SAME THING EVERY TIME". I like to bring the bike just into the secound amber bulb "Shallow Stage" and leave on the Second yellow light. With out getting into the details of "ROLL OUT" This works for me.
I also do my burn out in 2nd or 3 gear and "Drive Around" the water box the back the bike into the water. ( I don't like to get my front tire wet, can't burn the water off of the front tire). I have some good drag race 101 articals around here and will try to upload them soon.
For now try this link,
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/react.html
http://www.staginglight.com/guide/index.html
Thanx
Brent
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: txbanditrydr on February 23, 2006, 10:41:22 AM
Awesome information guys....just what I was looking for.  Although it sure is a lot to remember.. :lol:   Sorta like describing a golf swing even thought I don't play regular golf (watch out in putt-putt).  Keep the good stuff coming!!!   :thanks:

Parking lot practice sounds like a good idea - at least for a time or two till you get run off.   :stickpoke:   Asphalt or concrete is the question.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on February 23, 2006, 11:26:12 AM
Hey txbanditrydr, On a stock wheelbase bike, I have found that the higher rpms you leave at, the less likely it is to wheelie. I use to leave at 8,000 rpms on my RF900. Also you need to get you a Pingle strap, and strap the front down. The lower you can get the entire bike the less it will want to wheelie, and practice, practice, practice!

If the Lord is willing, I will make the 1st King of The Track at Rusk.
Bob Holland
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: 12sdrag on February 23, 2006, 10:24:02 PM
Quote from: "BHolland"
Hey txbanditrydr, On a stock wheelbase bike, I have found that the higher rpms you leave at, the less likely it is to wheelie.

 BHolland, any logic on the higher rpm launch? I used to leave @ 6500 and always had a hard time keeping the bike down. Should I have tried raising rpm? I ask only for knowledge, not to question your experience. :thanks:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on February 24, 2006, 09:29:50 AM
For me, it forces me to slip the clutch more, allowing the engine to get past the high torque rpm range before the clutch is completly out. This works well with stock Suzuki clutch plates, but not so well with Barnett
clutches, they are too grabby, wan't slip.
I have seem some good riders that will leave with the rpms at the rev limiter, have never tried that myself.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Ar-Bandit on March 06, 2006, 06:09:14 PM
And for all of you that are wondering....when you rev it up about 7500 rpm be careful how fast you slip the clutch.  If you slip and drop lever it will back flip on you.  It was a hell of a ride but just be careful all of yall.  Drag racing is a great time and sport but be careful.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on April 11, 2006, 03:04:47 AM
Hi
Just thought I would let you guys know how my Drag racing season ended.
Well I won our NZ Nationals again.That two years in a row.But I also won the points series that the NZ Drag Racing association was running.
So it was a great season and as soon as I get my trophy I will post up some pic,s
Set my PB of 11.52sec at the Nat's qualifying and was cutting better lights than most of my competitors all year.
Won the final by 0.065 sec and got that on reaction time.
So you don't have to be the fastest or quickest...but you do have to be consistent.
The bike for those who don't know is a 2004 GS1200SS thats stock standard.
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on April 11, 2006, 01:02:10 PM
:congrats: Richard!  :bigok:  :beers:  :motorsmile:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on April 12, 2006, 02:19:52 AM
Hi
Thanks  :thanks:
But I have just been told that they are going to call the 38th Nat,s meeting "canceled".
We got rained off on the finals day 2 weeks ago and on our "rain date" my class was the only class that got to run their final as it rained again.
So even though I have a time slip that shows that I won the final they are now saying that they are calling the meeting canceled.
That means that we have to run the 38th Nat,s again next season.
So I end up having to win it twice !!!
Just because the poor car drivers never got to run all their rounds.
Us bikes get dicked again.
So if I can afford to run the next season I will go hard out and try and win the 38th Nat,s for the second time :banghead:
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Dragbike on April 12, 2006, 11:14:09 AM
:congrats:
Hey 2 years in a row.......... That is fantastic :banana:
Took me 3 years just to cut a light! Sounds like you have a real talent for it.

"So even though I have a time slip that shows that I won the final they are now saying that they are calling the meeting canceled. "
After my 30 years of drag racing in the states crap like that will happen,
not often but it will, Hang in there! and
#1 BE SAFE
#2 HAVE THE BEST TIME OF YOUR LIFE!
LORD KNOWS WE DON'T RACE FOR THE MONEY!
See Ya
Brent
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on April 27, 2006, 09:37:25 PM
Hi
Just showing off :grin:
But here is a pic of me winning this years NZ Nationals.
But they then canceled the meeting and will not recognize the winning run.
 (http://rrracing.co.nz/pics/Bike1.jpg)
If you look close you can see that the front wheel is just scraping the ground...no need to have it 2 feet in the air. :grin:
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on May 01, 2006, 04:54:31 PM
I ran my bike Sunday at Cherokee County Dragstrip. I ran it with the stock swingarm and 14/45 gearing. On every pass, the front was in the air until 4th gear. My best pass on the uni-cycle was 10.42 at 137. I new it was a wasted day, as for as winning anything, but it was fun :motorsmile:  :beers:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: deepink on May 01, 2006, 11:49:50 PM
Hey Bholland

I was going to come on today and ask how it went this weekend in Rusk.  I tried hard to make it over there to watch, but it just wasn't in the cards for me.

Oh well.  Hope all had a good time.
Title: 1/4 mile results Bandit 1200 S all stock but can
Post by: sahtt on May 11, 2006, 06:24:14 PM
I go with my friend every week to setup, tune, and drag race his car.  I haven't been able to own a good sportscar, muchless abuse it, while in college.  But I got tired of not bringing something of my own so...

I had a loose chain, about 2.5" of slack [didn't realize this at the time as I had it adjusted fairly recently], and a pretty old/worn back tire.  Nothing dangerous, just not what I'd use for great times.  All stock but hole-shot touring exhaust, which had a small exhaust leak.

I did 0 burnouts and did NOT launch.  I'd attempt to take off as quickly as possible without wheelspin or raising the front.  By not launching, I mean I didn't forcefully let out the clutch, just a fast roll-on the throttle.  I did 3 runs, first one was just seeing how the track was.  I just wanted to hit 11's, I could have gone faster if I wanted to.

12.77 w/ 2.08 60ft @ 116 mph.  Didn't WOT until a good ways into 2nd.
12.11 w/2.02 60ft @ 116 mph.  WOT'd as soon as I got into 2nd, more gas in 1st than first run.
11.91 w/2.0 60ft @ 119 mph.  I managed a little WOT in 1st for a couple thousand RPMS.

The bike is certainly capable of high 10's in my eyes.  I did nice, slow, full clutch shifts, and didn't launch whatsoever.  

Sound about right for my bike?  Has 27k miles as if it matters.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on May 12, 2006, 10:04:45 AM
I have never ridden a stock Bandit on the track, but the MPH looks a little low to me. As for the ET, the launch, 60 ft time :beers:  and reaction time, is 90% of dragracing, and that just takes practice, practice and more practice.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on May 12, 2006, 03:28:57 PM
I now have my bike set for the track. 14/52 with 7" drag slick and wheelie bars.  :motorsmile:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on May 12, 2006, 06:00:23 PM
Hi
BHolland....What size rear rim do you have that fits a 7 inch slick and what brand tire are you using.?
Thanks
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: StangMATA on September 06, 2006, 06:32:34 PM
I know this is an old thread but I found it searching for something.

I'm running 11.56s at 117mph. More consistantly in the 11.6-11.7s range though.

2003 GSF1200S w/ a D&D can.

I tell you one thing, this bike is damn consistant down the track.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on September 20, 2006, 09:38:29 AM
Quote from: bstard
Hi
BHolland....What size rear rim do you have that fits a 7 inch slick and what brand tire are you using.?
Thanks
Richard

The 7" slick will fit the stock rim. I have the M/T slick, it is about an inch taller than the stock tire, but if you run a strut instead of the shock, you will not have any problem.
Schnitz Racing, have them for $150. U.S.
Follow the link to my Web Site, and look at the picture, Bobs Bandit 1246, and you will see the bike as it was set up with the slick.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on September 22, 2006, 06:28:22 PM
Hi
I thought that you couldnt get a 7 inch tire on the std 5.5 inch rim.
Was your rim 5.5 inch ?
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Dragbike on September 22, 2006, 09:10:24 PM
I have had an old (now) 8.5" Goodyear slick on a stock rim 5.5"
"I have never ridden a stock Bandit on the track, but the MPH looks a little low to me. As for the ET"
I run 11.086 @ 122 on my Stock Bandit (Yosh RS1 only mod)
No strap and 30 psi in tires, should get into the 10's with strap and 14 psi
and I am 155 lbs in full leathers  
I run 9.4 @ 142 with the Katana (pic on the left) with 14/54
Bandit cams and gearing just don't have any top end to them in the ¼
Stock Busa will do 10.20 @ 150 with a so so rider in the ¼  
Brent
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Dragbike on September 22, 2006, 09:29:24 PM
Oh thought I might share this
(http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/011800a3.jpg)
(http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/articlefiles/011800a4.jpg)
Link to the site  :motorsmile:
http://www.dragbike.com/dbnews/anmviewer.asp?a=2493&z=2
Brock Davidson............ First one in the 7's
A wizzard and true Star!
:congrats:
Brent
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on October 29, 2006, 06:09:21 PM
Hi
Well our new Drag racing season has started over here in NZ and I am again trying to win the Mod Bike points series again.
I have ridden my 2004 GS1200SS over 2500 k's during the last two weekends to compete in the first two meetings.
I won both our Southern Nationals meeting and a provincial points meeting.
A great start to my points series. :grin:
Thanks
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on November 02, 2006, 05:12:57 PM
Quote from: bstard
Hi
Well our new Drag racing season has started over here in NZ and I am again trying to win the Mod Bike points series again.
I have ridden my 2004 GS1200SS over 2500 k's during the last two weekends to compete in the first two meetings.
I won both our Southern Nationals meeting and a provincial points meeting.
A great start to my points series. :grin:
Thanks
Richard

 :motorsmile:
Keep it up, that's a good start. Our season is over here, and I only made two races this year. :beers:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Kickstart on November 07, 2006, 07:33:52 PM
Hi

Meant to do a few meets this year, but all I managed was one practice day. And the whole day there was light snow (just light dust like stuff, enough to make it pretty cold thouhg). Managed 11.44 @ 129mph.

Did three weekends playing around doing top speed runs. With a best of 181.8mph (rather flattering tail wind that day).

This is on an unfaired Bandit.

All the best

Keith
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: leasingguy on November 07, 2006, 09:09:43 PM
Here a pic of my nakid Bandit. It ran 9.73 @139 last weekend with a mild 1216 and a crapy 1.64 60'. Its a solid 9.50 ride. The swingarm set-up is for sale  :grin:


(http://webpages.charter.net/tgrooms/Bandit/PMRA/PMRA%20TG.jpg)
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Bob Holland on November 08, 2006, 09:13:11 AM
I use to run 9.60s on my 89 GSXR 1216, with stock cams and carbs with jet kit, but that was 5 years and 50 Lbs. ago. :motorsmile:
I will be 60 years old next summer, and I weight 240, I cand lose weight, but I can't do anything about the years :beers:
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Thief400 on December 19, 2006, 02:48:24 PM
I have dragged raced my little 400 since new, first et was a 14.99 @ 89.
Now its down to a 13.48@ 96.
I added a wheelie bar and a 2 step this past winter to get more consistant reactions times they are a respecable .513 to a .523 now and in the last race of the season in 3rd round of elems I cut the dreaded .4999 red light !!!!!!!

(http://www.members.shaw.ca/cgard/bbs/DSCF0974.JPG)
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: bstard on March 16, 2007, 04:50:58 AM
Hi
Well yet another Drag racing season has finished here in NZ.I won our NZDRA Point Championship for the second year in a row.But I red lit out in the first round of the NZ Nationals so I missed out winning the NZ Nationals again.
Here a pic of me on the GS1200SS at the Nats.(http://www.rrracing.co.nz/pics/champ1.jpg)

I also gave my Yamaha RD400 Drag bike a run.It didn't go to well be it was a good test of the frame I made.
(http://www.rrracing.co.nz/pics/rd400.jpg)
Thanks
Richard
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on March 16, 2007, 10:15:38 AM
:congrats:  :bigok:  :beers:

Too bad about the red light and the RD not doing better tho.
Title: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: B6mick on August 13, 2007, 07:29:45 AM
Well after many a year of standing back saying "why"
And at long last being able to fit into the one piece riding suit, the ZRX, is about to be shown the pretty lights.
Not too sure on how I'll go, in fact i'm pretty sure I'll do pooh. I'll take the B6 too, reckon I'll cut times not much worse on the B6 than the ZRX. I still carn't reliably get the clutch happening like I can with the good old cable clutch on the B6. That I can time and time again dial up 10 and hold it till the clutch is fully engaged. The ZRX however to either bogging down or throwning the front skyward. maybe 1 in 100 it will be right. But stuff it, it's track time or loss of license time. I'm down to my last 3 points, so time to play like a tossa where I aint gonna loss any more points. :taz:

Been ready for 2 weeks, wouldn't ya know it each and every friday afternoon the races are cancelled again, after 10 years of drought, its still bloody raining.

Please god no rain next friday night. :taz:
Title: Re: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: asskickinpeanuts on August 12, 2009, 12:16:49 AM
I'd like to put a 1216 kit in from JE Pistons with the 13:1 compression. I know, I know, I would have to run race fuel!

I didn't in mine.  Even ran 87 octane in it usually.  (I also had 3 muffin fans in front of the oil cooler to keep the temps in check too, though).  But I had the JE 1216 kit, head work, and competition? cams (IIRC) among other things.
Title: Re: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: stetracer on November 15, 2009, 11:22:25 AM
(http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af271/stetracer/Feb1st.jpg)
Title: Re: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: kdanner on April 08, 2011, 08:35:59 PM
I am lokking to do some cheap perfomance mods to my 97 b12 already has stage 1 jet kit and yoshi slip on was thinking about gsxr 750 cams but dont know where to look . Is it a hard mod Im pretty much a gear head but know little about bikes do you think it would be something i could takle or shoulod i take it to a pro
Title: Re: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: Red01 on April 09, 2011, 12:02:56 PM
You can get them from Holeshot:

http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/bndt_camshafts.shtml

Or your favorite Suzuki parts source... you just want cams for a 88-89 GSXR750R.  You will have to use the Bandit's cam sprockets, the Bandit's is different than the GSXR.  If you can change cams in a car, the Bandit should be pretty easy, just be sure you have a manual.

If you don't have a favorite discount Suzuki parts source, check out this thread:

http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=10864.0
Title: Re: Drag Racing Junkies
Post by: sandy klock on April 11, 2012, 01:28:53 PM
Time to revive this thread.  I ran last saturday, first time to strip this yr. Also first time on bandit.  learned alot, lots more to learn.  10.7ish best 133mph top,d out in 4th. Need lots more swingarm on unicycle.   sandy