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MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: billster on August 27, 2005, 05:20:09 PM

Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on August 27, 2005, 05:20:09 PM: Is anybody running a fork brace on their Gen2 B12? Looking at Super Brace and HoleShot braces. I used to always have them on my 70's Hondas and they made a world of difference. Wondering if the improvement is as dramatic with these 43mm forks today? The harder I push this beast the more 'flopping' I'm detecting in the front end especially on corner exits under acceleration.

This would augment the RaceTech Gold valve kit and Penske in the rear that I'm planning over the winter.

Cheers
Billster :shock:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: zeebandit on August 27, 2005, 06:23:24 PM: I have one on my 1st. gen. Bandit 1200 and it does help. :motorsmile:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: buggyho on August 27, 2005, 06:23:36 PM: I've got one on mine. it does seem to take a little bit of flex out. I put it on the same time as the lower motor mounts and it seemed to stiffen things up quite nicely.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on August 28, 2005, 04:17:04 AM: Thanks guys....

Bottom motor mounts...from HS? Good idea. Anything to stiffen it up...*banned*? :beers:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on August 29, 2005, 10:35:30 PM: I've got the lower mounts from Suzuki (via ebay). These have a rubber bushing in them, so no real difference was noted by me in vibs or stiffness.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 02, 2005, 08:06:54 PM: Put the Holeshot fork brace on Friday and did the big run up the canyon this morning and it was a noticeable difference. The long run through the sweepers felt good yesterday but the canyon run was deciding difference!

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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 02, 2005, 08:23:32 PM: Cool. It's on the list.

Hey....what's that black bike with the super tailpiece?

Bill :motorsmile:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 02, 2005, 08:49:20 PM: Quote from: "billster"
Cool. It's on the list.

Hey....what's that black bike with the super tailpiece?

Bill :motorsmile:

That would be a 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1 which belongs to my buddy Chris!

Another one trying to give that damn Turbo Bike a run for its money, NOT!(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/mongo995/193.gif)(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/mongo995/CIMG1293.jpg)
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: terrebandit on October 02, 2005, 09:31:46 PM: Heres mine on my 1G. I don't notice that much of a difference but it does add to the "bling-bling" factor. :lol:

(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-00-bikepics-351361.jpg)
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 02, 2005, 10:21:50 PM: Quote from: "terrebandit"
Heres mine on my 1G. I don't notice that much of a difference but it does add to the "bling-bling" factor. :lol:

Sucks spending that much money on bling, why didn't you buy a Hardley!

:clubme: :clubme: :clubme: :clubme:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on October 03, 2005, 01:20:19 AM: Cuz he wanted to be different?

Practically every Harley is blinged - nothin' special 'bout that. :wink:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 03, 2005, 04:07:15 AM: Mongo

I'm waiting to hear you turbo'd your B12! It's comin'..you know it! :bigok:

That chrome brace's a fancy thing. I think HS only has black for G2. Black's fine by me.

Billster

(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-03-bikepics-217601.jpg)
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 03, 2005, 08:53:55 PM: Quote from: "billster"
Mongo

I'm waiting to hear you turbo'd your B12! It's comin'..you know it! :bigok:

That chrome brace's a fancy thing. I think HS only has black for G2. Black's fine by me.

Billster

(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-03-bikepics-217601.jpg)

Hey Bill,

I was looking at the settings on your front forks in your picture, where do you have them set now? That looked really squishy especially riding two up!

I don't know about the turbo I really enjoyed riding the T-Rex over the weekend but something about giving Mr. Turbo the same amount of cash that I spent on my bike sends chills up my spine. How about a shot of goofy gas instead “MORE THROTTLE FROM THE BOTTLE”!
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 03, 2005, 09:00:09 PM: Can imagine the fabrication needed to turbo up. NOS much cheaper and wahoo!

This was the first day i had the B12....stock settings - three lines showing on the preload. Stopping short was a bit harrowing two-up.

I'm showing 1 1/2 lines now. Haven't had it two-up like this - I'm getting selfish....solo GP tail in the future? I'd get killed.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 03, 2005, 09:24:41 PM: Quote from: "Red01"
Cuz he wanted to be different?

Practically every Harley is blinged - nothin' special 'bout that. :wink:

"Viva Le Difference"

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the first generation Bandits come from the factory set up with a fork brace? And to us poor folks that ride the second Gen bikes something like a fork brace would show a definite improvement wouldn’t it?

Terrebandit mentioned that he did not notice a difference, I guess I would not expect him to if it came factory with one but on a second-generation bike it shows a considerable improvement.

Sorry to bag on your Bling Man forgot about the first generation bikes!
:rant2: :rant2: :rant2: :rant2: :rant2:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: turbo-bob on October 03, 2005, 10:04:15 PM: Quote from: "Mongo"
Quote from: "billster"
Mongo

I'm waiting to hear you turbo'd your B12! It's comin'..you know it! :bigok:

That chrome brace's a fancy thing. I think HS only has black for G2. Black's fine by me.

Billster

(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-03-bikepics-217601.jpg)

Hey Bill,

I was looking at the settings on your front forks in your picture, where do you have them set now? That looked really squishy especially riding two up![/b]

Good Eye - Mongo !
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: turbo-bob on October 03, 2005, 10:07:22 PM: Quote from: "Mongo"
Quote from: "billster"
Mongo

I'm waiting to hear you turbo'd your B12! It's comin'..you know it! :bigok:

Billster

Hey Bill,
How about a shot of goofy gas instead “MORE THROTTLE FROM THE BOTTLE”!

A turbo will never need re-filling !!
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 03, 2005, 10:36:07 PM: Quote from: "turbo-bob"
Quote from: "Mongo"
Quote from: "billster"
Mongo

I'm waiting to hear you turbo'd your B12! It's comin'..you know it! :bigok:

Billster

Hey Bill,
How about a shot of goofy gas instead “MORE THROTTLE FROM THE BOTTLE”!

A turbo will never need re-filling !!

Let's see in order for me to get a turbo this might be the next picture you see of me!

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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 03, 2005, 11:05:47 PM: make sure you put the faceshield down...and that's an iridium! :shock:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 03, 2005, 11:10:16 PM: Quote from: "billster"
make sure you put the faceshield down...and that's an iridium! :shock:

Faceshield Uhhhhhh right "mental note"! :cop: :cop: :cop:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: terrebandit on October 08, 2005, 08:14:52 PM: Quote from: "Mongo"
Quote from: "Red01"
Cuz he wanted to be different?

Practically every Harley is blinged - nothin' special 'bout that. :wink:

"Viva Le Difference"

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the first generation Bandits come from the factory set up with a fork brace? And to us poor folks that ride the second Gen bikes something like a fork brace would show a definite improvement wouldn’t it?

Terrebandit mentioned that he did not notice a difference, I guess I would not expect him to if it came factory with one but on a second-generation bike it shows a considerable improvement.

Sorry to bag on your Bling Man forgot about the first generation bikes!
:rant2: :rant2: :rant2: :rant2: :rant2:

You're kind of a smart A arn't you? :monkeymoon:

My point is that I don't push my bike hard enough to tell much difference. Its a well known fact that fork braces help the weak suspension, stiffness and handling of the bandit (1Gen and 2Gen). Yeah, the 1Gens have a brace but its basically a piece of sheet metal. It hardly compares to the hunk of metal I have on there now.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 08, 2005, 08:34:58 PM: Quote from: "terrebandit"

You're kind of a smart A arn't you? :monkeymoon:

My point is that I don't push my bike hard enough to tell much difference. Its a well known fact that fork braces help the weak suspension, stiffness and handling of the bandit (1Gen and 2Gen). Yeah, the 1Gens have a brace but its basically a piece of sheet metal. It hardly compares to the hunk of metal I have on there now.

Kind of a smart A is putting it lightly! :thanks:

I happen to run with a crowd that likes to take it to the limit and a little beyond so, when I added the fork brace it seemed to make a considerable difference when running the canyons. Still can't hang with the big boys but every little bit helps!
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: turbo-bob on October 09, 2005, 12:49:23 PM: Quote from: "terrebandit"
Quote from: "Mongo"
Quote from: "Red01"
Cuz he wanted to be different?

Practically every Harley is blinged - nothin' special 'bout that. :wink:

"Viva Le Difference"
You're kind of a smart A arn't you? :monkeymoon:

I dont think its a question of being a smarta$$.....The man has done
an improvement to his bike and is passing on his experiance. Thats
what the board is about.
If your not an agressive rider - check out a different forum, like
lighted valve stems or luggage racks. Dont cap the guy for what
he's sharing. Thats just my .02
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: terrebandit on October 09, 2005, 08:27:48 PM: Quote from: "turbo-bob"

I dont think its a question of being a smarta$$.....The man has done
an improvement to his bike and is passing on his experiance. Thats
what the board is about.
If your not an agressive rider - check out a different forum, like
lighted valve stems or luggage racks. Dont cap the guy for what
he's sharing. Thats just my .02

This is what he said and this is what I had an issue with after I gave MY opinion on fork braces. Why don't you relax and mind your own business? :monkeymoon:

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Sucks spending that much money on bling, why didn't you buy a Hardley!
Title: Re: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 10, 2005, 01:25:09 PM: Quote from: "billster"
Is anybody running a fork brace on their Gen2 B12? Looking at Super Brace and HoleShot braces. I used to always have them on my 70's Hondas and they made a world of difference. Wondering if the improvement is as dramatic with these 43mm forks today? The harder I push this beast the more 'flopping' I'm detecting in the front end especially on corner exits under acceleration.

This would augment the RaceTech Gold valve kit and Penske in the rear that I'm planning over the winter.

Cheers
Billster :shock:

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Sucks spending that much money on bling, why didn't you buy a Hardley!

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This is what he said and this is what I had an issue with after I gave MY opinion on fork braces. Why don't you relax and mind your own business?

Dave,

Read Bills first sentence; He was asking about a fork brace for a second generation B12 that's part of the reason I bagged you!
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: terrebandit on October 10, 2005, 09:51:12 PM: I'm cool with everything Mongo. Peace bro. :wink:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 10, 2005, 10:02:33 PM: Quote from: "terrebandit"
I'm cool with everything Mongo. Peace bro. :wink:

No problem, it's good to add a little controversy on these threads just to add a little color!
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 11, 2005, 05:29:54 AM: Hey Mongo! Where you gettin' all these avatars? I'm looking for your posts just to LMAO over the avatars! (This one looks just like the old Pirate's Den down on the turnpike :shock: )

Billshter
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 11, 2005, 09:32:18 AM: Quote from: "billster"
Hey Mongo! Where you gettin' all these avatars? I'm looking for your posts just to LMAO over the avatars! (This one looks just like the old Pirate's Den down on the turnpike :shock: )

Billshter

I have the mandatory one hour lunch break at work and since our IT guy has blocked my access to Banditalley I spend a lot of time looking through photo bucket, yahoo images and goggle to find some new and improved crap to lighten up your day!
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 11, 2005, 09:39:33 AM: give that IT guy a beer.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 12, 2005, 09:43:39 AM: Quote from: "billster"
give that IT guy a beer.

I'd rather kick him in the head, looking at bikes and cars is not a bad thing it's not like I'm looking at tits. Besides do you know how difficult it is to look up things on the NET when vehicles are blocked by the firewall especially when you work for an aerospace company!
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: billster on October 12, 2005, 02:45:57 PM: The Chief of Cardiac Surgery caught me looking at a Yucko the Clown video the other day. I thought I was toast until he said...start it from the beginning..this guy's a pisser!! :shock:

Retract me former statement...smack the IT in the head.

B
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on October 12, 2005, 07:53:18 PM: Quote from: "Mongo"
especially when you work for an aerospace company!

Which one?
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 12, 2005, 08:48:18 PM: Quote from: "Red01"
Quote from: "Mongo"
especially when you work for an aerospace company!

Which one?

I work as a Test Engineer (AKA Chief Poultry Propulsion Engineer) for a transparency manufacturer Sierracin/Sylmar Corp.
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on October 12, 2005, 11:44:10 PM: Quote from: "Mongo"
(AKA Chief Poultry Propulsion Engineer)
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So, does that have anything to do with Chicken Cannons?

In case you didn't know or hadn't figured it out, I'm employed by the aerospace industry, too.
I'm an Airworthiness Inspector for Boeing. Currently working on 777's, but have worked 737, 747, 757 & 767 programs, too.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 13, 2005, 12:02:50 AM: Quote from: "Red01"
Quote from: "Mongo"
(AKA Chief Poultry Propulsion Engineer)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b393/mongo995/superchicken.jpg)

So, does that have anything to do with Chicken Cannons?

It sure does, currently Chucking Chickens at 787 windows for you all!
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on October 13, 2005, 12:19:06 AM: We used to do those kinds of tests up here at the Tulalip Test Site, but they sold all that stuff off and closed the site ~10-15 years ago... there's an Indian Casino there now.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 13, 2005, 12:24:57 AM: Quote from: "Red01"
We used to do those kinds of tests up here at the Tulalip Test Site, but they sold all that stuff off and closed the site ~10-15 years ago... there's an Indian Casino there now.

There is not a whole lot facilitys doing bird strikes any more!

Messy Job!

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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on October 13, 2005, 12:49:26 AM: Never had to deal with the purposeful testing, but have been involved in dealing with the aftermath of real world incidents.

:gagme: :pukey:
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: 2005B12S on October 13, 2005, 10:27:37 AM: Quote from: "Red01"
Never had to deal with the purposeful testing, but have been involved in dealing with the aftermath of real world incidents.

:gagme: :pukey:

Nothing like the smell of bird cooking at 700 degrees C.
Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Mongo on October 13, 2005, 04:46:13 PM: Quote from: "2005B12S"
Quote from: "Red01"
Never had to deal with the purposeful testing, but have been involved in dealing with the aftermath of real world incidents.

:gagme: :pukey:

Nothing like the smell of bird cooking at 700 degrees C.

It still has a smell after 700°C?
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Title: Fork brace?
Post by: Red01 on October 13, 2005, 10:26:23 PM: Probably not, but the parts of bird that stick to the cooler parts don't smell so great.