Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: FreediverGa on July 10, 2005, 10:56:53 AM
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I'm going to order Holeshots Sport Bike Bars and wanted to know how hard is it to remove everthing off the handle bars. I mostly interested in the throttle controls mostly !
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Its easy , I have the same bars . The hardest part is removing the grips . The trick is not to pull from the outside end , pull from the inside of the grip out , give it a twist should help as well . You'll find the lower bars will take a lil getting used to , but it seems to help corner the bike a lil better with the additional weight over the bars . No modifications are needed to the cables or anything . Enjoy . :lol:
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Any other tips on easy ways to get grips back on? Is there something I can put on the bar to make it slide easier without damaging anything? Thanks for any help.
:thanks:
Nerissa F.
'02 1200S
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Just use some isopropyl alcohol from the pharmacy section of any grocery store. Pour some into the grip and onto the bar and they will slide right on. Just don't ride for 24 hours to let them set up.
Bill
Conroe Tx
'05 B12
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I'm going to order Holeshots Sport Bike Bars and wanted to know how hard is it to remove everthing off the handle bars. I mostly interested in the throttle controls mostly !
another good trick to removing the grips, is to stick the nozzle of your air compressor under the grip and 'inflate' it as you pull it off. this does a good job breaking the adhesive, and saves your grips. I had to do this when I installed my symtec heat elements. They instructed that I put on a layer of high-temp epoxy, which actually helped in sliding the gribs back on.
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Its easy , I have the same bars . The hardest part is removing the grips . The trick is not to pull from the outside end , pull from the inside of the grip out , give it a twist should help as well . You'll find the lower bars will take a lil getting used to , but it seems to help corner the bike a lil better with the additional weight over the bars . No modifications are needed to the cables or anything . Enjoy . :lol:
I've lowered the forks 10mm so the combo with the bars should making an interesting ride huh?
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Try raising the tubes 1.5in in the triples and mounting 43mm clipons.
What a difference. Absolutely no clearance issues and a much sportier ride. Clipons are Pro Tech and very high quality. Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
http://groups.msn.com/SuzukiGSGarage/gs750edbacktolife.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5148
http://groups.msn.com/SuzukiGSGarage/gs750edbacktolife.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5209
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Try raising the tubes 1.5in in the triples and mounting 43mm clipons.
What a difference. Absolutely no clearance issues and a much sportier ride. Clipons are Pro Tech and very high quality. Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
http://groups.msn.com/SuzukiGSGarage/gs750edbacktolife.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5148
http://groups.msn.com/SuzukiGSGarage/gs750edbacktolife.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5209
Wow! :shock: that looks shweet! You said the ride is 'sporty', but I was hoping you could elaborate a bit. Do you feel like you could do 400mi/day? 200? 100? :thanks:
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Its easy , I have the same bars . The hardest part is removing the grips . The trick is not to pull from the outside end , pull from the inside of the grip out , give it a twist should help as well . You'll find the lower bars will take a lil getting used to , but it seems to help corner the bike a lil better with the additional weight over the bars . No modifications are needed to the cables or anything . Enjoy . :lol:
How did you figure where to drip the placement hole for the hand controls on the new handle bars
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You can break off that little pin on the switches that postions the bars.
You'll want to put a strip of fabric tape on the bars under the switch unit.
This will keep it from rotating around the bar.
The little pins break off pretty easily, usually in a minor tip over, anyway.
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Try raising the tubes 1.5in in the triples and mounting 43mm clipons.
What a difference. Absolutely no clearance issues and a much sportier ride. Clipons are Pro Tech and very high quality. Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
http://groups.msn.com/SuzukiGSGarage/gs750edbacktolife.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5148
http://groups.msn.com/SuzukiGSGarage/gs750edbacktolife.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5209
I don't know about anyone else but I would certainly like some info on how to do this....or atleast what products to get for the raise...
:beers: :thanks:
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Loosen the pinch bolts in the upper & lower triple clamps, raise fork tubes 1.5in in the triples and tighten them back up and you have an attachment point for the clip-ons above the top triple. The only thing you'd need to buy is the clip-ons.
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If you are going to go with clip ons, then you should switch to inverted forks.
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Why?
Lots of early classic sportbikes - GSXR's, Ducati's- used clip-ons and conventional forks.
The B12 has tree trunk 43mm tubes that were good enough for 150bhp Superbikes running slicks thru the early 90's. The inverted units of today are nice eye candy, but 90% of street riders cannot even approach their full potential on the street. And thats probably a good thing. The fact is that they are overkill on most street bikes.
I have run my '83 750E with clip-ons and a .5 inch rise in the triples for 20 years.
(http://www.thegsresources.com/_gallery/images/0303-1.jpg)
You will be shocked at the handling transformation by raising the tubes and fitting clip-ons. Front wheel feedback is greatly improved, countersteering imputs are second nature- the front end just feels more planted.
I also use aftermarket fork springs and a fork brace on both bikes.
Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
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The inverted units of today are nice eye candy,
True! And they usually have more adjustabilty than the B12's forks since most candidates consider for a swap are from a GSXR. They'd certainly qualify as a nice upgrade. There's no reason they'd be on the "must have" list just because you put clip-ons on the bike though.
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The inverted units of today are nice eye candy,
True! And they usually have more adjustabilty than the B12's forks since most candidates consider for a swap are from a GSXR. They'd certainly qualify as a nice upgrade. There's no reason they'd be on the "must have" list just because you put clip-ons on the bike though.
I don't have much experience riding bikes with inverted forks. From people that I know that have both types of bikes(inverted and non-inverted), they say that there is a big difference in handling. Also with the new SV1000's, they increased the fork size to 46 mm(non-inverted).
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Now what about if you've put on a 35mm jack-up in the rear? With lowering the front 1.5" and raising the bacl 1.5"...isn't that going to be too much of a forward incline?
Are there longer front fork that can compensate the 1.5" raise and give the same stance and the original w/o the raise? I mean....if you're planning on changing to inverted anyways why not get one that doesn't make you lean forward too much.
:duh:
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The inverted units of today are nice eye candy,
True! And they usually have more adjustabilty than the B12's forks since most candidates consider for a swap are from a GSXR. They'd certainly qualify as a nice upgrade. There's no reason they'd be on the "must have" list just because you put clip-ons on the bike though.
I don't have much experience riding bikes with inverted forks. From people that I know that have both types of bikes(inverted and non-inverted), they say that there is a big difference in handling. Also with the new SV1000's, they increased the fork size to 46 mm(non-inverted).
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/GS750ED/P1010215.jpg)
For the average street rider, a properly set up conventional fork will work just as well as an inverted unit on the street. It is on the racetrack that all of these high tech features make a difference.
My TL1000S handled better than the B12, but it was a 425lb 55inch wheelbase sportbike with premium rubber. Regardless of fork design, it would have handled better than the B12 due to its design. Most inverted fork bikes today are full sport bikes with race design/suspension, therefore thay are going to handle better than a conventional fork bike as these bikes are not designed as full sport bikes.
Is putting an inverted front unit on a B12 going to make it handle better? I really don't think so. Fork springs and brace will make a 43mm conventional fork handle well enough for the street. If it really makes that much difference, you probably should be on a racetrack.
Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
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Now what about if you've put on a 35mm jack-up in the rear? With lowering the front 1.5" and raising the bacl 1.5"...isn't that going to be too much of a forward incline?
Are there longer front fork that can compensate the 1.5" raise and give the same stance and the original w/o the raise? I mean....if you're planning on changing to inverted anyways why not get one that doesn't make you lean forward too much.
:duh:
IMHO, doing both is too much. I know from your other post you want to lower the front so you can get enough meat to mount clip-ons, but you can get the same posture with a set of flat handlebars and leave the forks in their normal position.