Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: rspector on September 23, 2005, 07:04:42 PM
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just wondering, as i doubt i will ever reach its top speed, had it going about 140 the other day and that was fast enough, also how accurate is the stock speedo i keep seeing adds for all kinds of things that make it more accuarate
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My speedeometer was off by about 7% at 60 MPH and about the same at 100 MPH.
I replaced the rear tire with a 170/60-17 and went up a tooth on the countershaft sprocket and now have a very accurate speedometer at both 60 and 72 MPH. Haven't tested it at 100, but it seems to read accurately there too. At 50 MPH my tach reads 2900 and exactly double that at 100 MPH indicated.
The odometer now reads about 7% low, but that's easy to compensate for when calculating gas mileage or for maintenance purposes.
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With the right rider and weather conditions, they're supposed to be good for 155-160. The optimistic speedo should be pegged if you manage to get it that fast.
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I have a copy of virtually every road test on the Bandit 1200 from MC Reports at <www.mcreports.com>.
The best anyone got was 151 MPH and ALL of the rest had top speeds in the 143-144 MPH range.
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They'll supposedly do around 145-150mph, which is fast enough but it's not about top speed. Can I ask why is this in the "Modifications" section?
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i've got a dyno print out on my 2003 ,i imagine it should be the same as an 05, and it rev limited itself in top with a 14 tooth on the front sprocket at 267kph or165.9 mph.
1...i have read you won't redline one in top with standard 15 tooth sprocket
2...i've got no idea how accurate it was ,but i was standing outside the screen it was behind and heard it shut itself down in top
3..the shop told me it was unusual for that model to red line itself in top also
cheers slo coach
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I've had my (completely stock) 02B12 upto an indicated 220km/h (136mph) and it was still pulling, I lost my nerve before the bike lost momentum.
Interesting sideline though, when I sat up at that speed, not only did I nearly fall of the back - but the speed dropped almost immediately to 180km/h - I never figured the fairing to be that aerodynamic.
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Even if you were in a tuck on a naked bike at that speed, Mick, when you sit up, you become what we call in the aircraft world, a speed brake.
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Even if you were in a tuck on a naked bike at that speed, Mick, when you sit up, you become what we call in the aircraft world, a speed brake.
To be honest, it's not something I'm in a hurray to do again, I damn near had to take the leathers to the drycleaners, I thought I was going to become 'speeding' statistic.
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At 145 I got out of it. :shock:
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150+ on the nekkid. It was still accelerating like a freakin' lunatic. Don't know WHERE it'll shut off ferchrissakes! Don't trust the cage drivers to understand rate of closure at that speed. :duh: (I LOVES dis machine!)
Bill
(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-03-bikepics-434929.jpg)
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I haven't done it in a while, but I used to get on a certain, deserted road, and wind it out....briefly!
I don't think I ever got much over 140 on the speedo.
The first time I did it, the magnetic tank bag I was using lifted off the tank, and was flapping in the air, only held by the leash around the steering head. That was enough to scare the crap out of me....
It is pretty amazing how fast this turkey will get up in the triple numbers.....
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Fast enough to get you 30 days in the county lockup. :lol:
Above about 135-140 mph it is all aerodynamics- something the B12 lacks. I remember reading an article in Road and Track several years ago discussing the prep work to modify a stock auto to run as a pace car. The roof mounted light bar cost 15 mph- and this was only in the 115-120mph speed range.
It would be interesting to see the top speed difference between a faired and unfaired modern sport bike like a Busa or GSXR1000.
Speed On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
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I feel reasonably sure that with GSXR cams, a jet kit and pipe, that the Bandit will run around 160/165. My bike will peg the speedometer at 190, which is probabley around 175 actual mph. The new sport bikes will run faster than their dyno hp would indicate, because of ram air, which creates more hp moving down the road than it does setting on a dyno machine, and better aerodynamics.
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It would be interesting to see the top speed difference between a faired and unfaired modern sport bike like a Busa or GSXR1000.
Some years back, well before the Busa's debut, when Kawasaki ruled the top speed wars for years, one of the rags took the top Kaw (ZX10?) to Bonneville or Muroc and did some top speed runs in faired and unfaired condition and it made a noticeable difference. Can't remember how much now. That was before they started spending a lot of time with aerodynamic testing and the styling dept was dictating the shape of the plastic.
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I have has my Bandit 1200 at the racetrack, I hit an indicated 240km/h, and she was still pulling strong!!! I am pretty big, and it was hard to get right under the screen, but it makes a huge difference at those speeds!!!
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I have has my Bandit 1200 at the racetrack, I hit an indicated 240km/h, and she was still pulling strong!!! I am pretty big, and it was hard to get right under the screen, but it makes a huge difference at those speeds!!!
Thats 149 mph :beers:
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I have had my 04 1200s up to 150 on the speedo, but thats with a slip on , airbox mods and a rejet.. and at that speed it was still pulling pretty good... had to back off.. could just hear an officer saying" what in gods name were you doing 160 miles an hour for, ya got a death wish???"... have to find a track to get my top speed..LOL
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If you got pulled over with the speedo reading 150mph and you have stock gearing, the officer would more likely be saying, "What in God's name were you doing 135 miles an hour for? Got a death wish?"
:monkeymoon: :motorsmile:
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This is a caculation using stock gearing, 15/45 and a tire circunference of 77.875". You will note that 10,500 is 180 mph. I have used this chart for many years, and it is right on. 9,500 rpms is 163. The GSXR 1100, has the same gear ratios as the Bandit 1200.
RPM MPH MPH MPH MPH MPH
1,500 9.9 14.4 18.8 22.5 25.8
2,000 13.2 19.3 25.1 30.1 34.4
2,500 16.5 24.1 31.4 37.6 43.0
3,000 19.8 28.9 37.7 45.1 51.6
3,500 23.1 33.7 44.0 52.6 60.2
4,000 26.4 38.5 50.3 60.1 68.8
4,500 29.7 43.3 56.5 67.6 77.4
5,000 32.9 48.2 62.8 75.2 86.0
5,500 36.2 53.0 69.1 82.7 94.6
6,000 39.5 57.8 75.4 90.2 103.2
6,500 42.8 62.6 81.7 97.7 111.8
7,000 46.1 67.4 88.0 105.2 120.4
7,100 46.8 68.4 89.2 106.7 122.2
7,200 47.4 69.3 90.5 108.2 123.9
7,300 48.1 70.3 91.7 109.7 125.6
7,400 48.8 71.3 93.0 111.2 127.3
7,500 49.4 72.2 94.2 112.7 129.0
7,600 50.1 73.2 95.5 114.2 130.8
7,700 50.7 74.2 96.8 115.7 132.5
7,800 51.4 75.1 98.0 117.2 134.2
7,900 52.1 76.1 99.3 118.8 135.9
8,000 52.7 77.0 100.5 120.3 137.6
8,100 53.4 78.0 101.8 121.8 139.4
8,200 54.0 79.0 103.0 123.3 141.1
8,300 54.7 79.9 104.3 124.8 142.8
8,400 55.3 80.9 105.6 126.3 144.5
8,500 56.0 81.9 106.8 127.8 146.2
8,600 56.7 82.8 108.1 129.3 148.0
8,700 57.3 83.8 109.3 130.8 149.7
8,800 58.0 84.8 110.6 132.3 151.4
8,900 58.6 85.7 111.8 133.8 153.1
9,000 59.3 86.7 113.1 135.3 154.8
9,100 60.0 87.6 114.4 136.8 156.6
9,200 60.6 88.6 115.6 138.3 158.3
9,300 61.3 89.6 116.9 139.8 160.0
9,400 61.9 90.5 118.1 141.3 161.7
9,500 62.6 91.5 119.4 142.8 163.4
9,600 63.3 92.5 120.6 144.3 165.2
9,700 63.9 93.4 121.9 145.8 166.9
9,800 64.6 94.4 123.2 147.3 168.6
9,900 65.2 95.3 124.4 148.8 170.3
10,000 65.9 96.3 125.7 150.3 172.1
10,100 66.5 97.3 126.9 151.8 173.8
10,200 67.2 98.2 128.2 153.3 175.5
10,300 67.9 99.2 129.4 154.8 177.2
10,400 68.5 100.2 130.7 156.3 178.9
10,500 69.2 101.1 131.9 157.8 180.7
10,600 69.8 102.1 133.2 159.3 182.4
10,700 70.5 103.1 134.5 160.8 184.1
10,800 71.2 104.0 135.7 162.3 185.8
10,900 71.8 105.0 137.0 163.8 187.5
11,000 72.5 105.9 138.2 165.4 189.3
11,100 73.1 106.9 139.5 166.9 191.0
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INPUTS 2001 GSF1200K1 Bandit Gearing Calculator
Front Sprocket (Teeth) 15
Rear Sprocket (Teeth) 45
Final Ratio 3.00
Primary Ratio 1.565
Rear Tire Diameter (inches) 24.79
Tire Circumference (Inches) 77.88
GEAR 1 2 3 4 5
Internal Gear Ratio 2.384 1.631 1.250 1.045 0.913
Overall Gear Ratio 11.193 7.658 5.869 4.906 4.287
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:thanks: BHolland! :beers:
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I took mine on a local motorway which is never very busy and got it a little over 160mph on the clock and the throttle wasn't even full on the stop it has been jetted and has an after market can, stock gearing,
i know the speedo's are a little on the optomistic side but still nice to see the needle on the 160 mark.
Robbie
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Quickly dipped the speedo to 153 last weekend, and it was still pulling pretty hard.
I traveled for a week with a GPS and found that I was about 8-10% off at any speed :roll: ...so who knows
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Bought my '97 B12 on Saturday, took it out on Sunday to get the oil warmed up ready for an oil change, but the weather was really good so stayed out for a bit longer than I'd planned....
It ran to an indicated 145 at 9000rpm (on a private test track!). Haven't even checked the gearing yet.
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As we all know, motorcycle speedos are error prone, and unless you put it thru a radar gun, preferably one not held by a State Trooper, its guesswork. I don't see an aerodynamic brick like the B12 going past 145mph without some serious help.
If I remember correctly, early GSXR1100's were magazine tested by radar in the 140-145mph range. Granted that was a 1052cc motor, but those bikes were a good bit more streamlined than the B12. Early 90's factory Superbikes were struggling to hit 160 at Datona. These were 390lb fully pumped up, streamlined factory machines geared for a high speed track like Daytona.
As speed increases parasite drag increases at a disproportinal rate. Without streamlining, it becomes a battle, with large power increases required for small gains in speed. Anyway, it is just a number.
Ride On, Ed.
2005 GSF1200SZ
1983 GS750ED
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The early-type (pre '02?) Bandits have speedo's and rev counters that are about 10% optimistic. This has been verified by a number of very reliable sources.
Hence, my indicated 145mph at 9000rpm is in reality about 130mph at 8100rpm. :wink:
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The early-type (pre '02?) Bandits have speedo's and rev counters that are about 10% optimistic. This has been verified by a number of very reliable sources.
Hence, my indicated 145mph at 9000rpm is in reality about 130mph at 8100rpm. :wink:
:beers: I have a GPS on my Bandit and a dyna shift light and you are right, the speedo and the tach are off about the same. I can set my shift light for 6000 rpms, (it's lowest setting), and when it comes on the tach will be past 6500, and when my speedo is at 60 mph, my GPS is at 55.
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An interesting little experiment today - after a couple of goes it ran to an indicated 9200rpm in 5th gear, but when I tried maxing it out in 4th gear it ran to exactly the same speed (and was still pulling) at an indicated 10500rpm...but after all that I do realise that Bandits aren't about top speed!:roll:
It does feel slightly overgeared with a 45t back sprocket, and I realise now why so many people go to a 14t front sprocket or 47t at the back. Personally I think 47t at the back is the way to go for best all round performance on a B12 (with the usual loud can). :wink:
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Hi
I had my 1997 Bandit on an airfield for top speed runs a couple of months ago.
Best run was 166.2mph (with the speedo needle somewhere around where 180mph would be if marked that high). This is on standard gearing and was 600~700rpm into the red in top. On all the runs the speedo was about 10% over.
The bike is not standard (Akrapovic, 1216cc, skimmed and ported head, reprofiled cams, K&N filter with the lid chopped off the airbox).
Video of a slower run is here (bullet camera taped to the top of a tank bag):-
http://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/Videos/BanditTopSpeedFull.mpg
Note it is about 55mb.
All the best
Keith
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New Zealand here ! I run a 2000 bandit 1200, pipe , K& N , jetting and stock gearing. At a timed sprint over here I recorded 151 MPH or 246 KPH three times with the rev counter reading over 9000 each time, didn't look at the speedo. Oh and thats in race leathers and me weighing 90kg. G.
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I've had my bike up to 150 mph indicated. BTW, on the fairing vs non fairing, here is some interesting info on that matter.
http://www.cyclingforums.com/t55271.html
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Wearing full gear on a deserted road,I've seen an indicated 150mph. It seemed like it had a little more left in it. However, I know that the speedometer is quite 'optimistic'.
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I've got my 600s to show 150mph, I feel its about 135ish in real time :motorsmile:
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I've got a stock 2002 1200s.....
Top speed I hit was 261km/h and I still had room to go...
I'm adding on a 35mm jack kit in the rear so we'll see how that works for speed. With GSXR cams (both of 'em), K&N stage 2 with new jets and a full Yosh exhaust the bike should push 150 hp....
That's 46 HP up from stock so you can imagine the extra speed and torque..
www.Holeshot.com has the kit you want for that.
:banana:
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I've got a stock 2002 1200s.....
Top speed I hit was 261km/h and I still had room to go...
I'm adding on a 35mm jack kit in the rear so we'll see how that works for speed. With GSXR cams (both of 'em), K&N stage 2 with new jets and a full Yosh exhaust the bike should push 150 hp....
That's 46 HP up from stock so you can imagine the extra speed and torque..
www.Holeshot.com has the kit you want for that.
:banana:
With all of that and a 1216 kit, you might hit 145 hp at the rear wheel.
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I agree with BHolland, I don't think you're gonna get 150hp out of a stock-bore bike with those mods... unless you have a generous dyno.
FWIW, Dale got 150hp out of his 1G project bike with these mods:
Holeshot/JE 1216cc piston kit
Holeshot cylinder head porting & comp valve job
GSX-R intake cam
Holeshot Stage 2 jetting
Holeshot 5 degree timing advancer
Holeshot stepped header w/ high mount 14" Comp can
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I agree with BHolland, I don't think you're gonna get 150hp out of a stock-bore bike with those mods... unless you have a generous dyno.
FWIW, Dale got 150hp out of his 1G project bike with these mods:
Holeshot/JE 1216cc piston kit
Holeshot cylinder head porting & comp valve job
GSX-R intake cam
Holeshot Stage 2 jetting
Holeshot 5 degree timing advancer
Holeshot stepped header w/ high mount 14" Comp can
That's exactly what I hope to add to mine.
It also depends on the air temperature where you live on any given day....Canada is a little cooler than California so colder air...higher oxygen rating...higher compression = more HP.
Anything over 104hp will be good for me....The torque is what I want the most.
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I have has my Bandit 1200 at the racetrack, I hit an indicated 240km/h, and she was still pulling strong!!! I am pretty big, and it was hard to get right under the screen, but it makes a huge difference at those speeds!!!
What a coincidence, I took mine to Mosport here in Canada and on the Andretti straight I took a look and I was doing 240 as well. The only change I made was a 16 tooth front (for long distance stuff) and a gel seat that let's me get a bit lower in the saddle. I didn't get near redline on any shift and backed off because I was approaching a second gear right hander. With the big sprog up front, I don't think I'd hit the red anyway.
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145 mph indicated :monkeymoon:
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I have had mine burried at 165 kph (indicated) briefly, but quite often I will spool it up to 230 kph passing (and forgetting to shut things down for a bit).
But getting back to the topic of wind resistance..
I was reading an article dealing with wind resistance and bikes. The Busa is the most streamlined motorcycle made and believe it or not, is about as streamlined as your average 4 door sedan. (Bikes are hard to make streamlined according to the article) This is the reason that the Busa holds the top speed record in factory bikes.
Now the interesting part of the article stated that (whatever the number they use to measure wind resistance), on a motorcycle if you went up to the next number (less streamlined) it takes gobs of horsepower to accomidate the loss.
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whatever the number they use to measure wind resistance
Cd, or Coefficient of drag (http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/K-12/airplane/dragco.html)
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:monkeymoon: 140 at the track!
OPPS we are talking about 1200's sorry!!! :stickpoke:
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I have the 1st gen(98) with both gsx-r 750 cams,Holeshot header and can,addvacer,K&N pods w 150 mains 40 piolots (stage2) but have not done any head work yet. But I also have it geared down. I either run3 over or 6 over stock on the back sprocket. So I might not get as fast on the top, but I can get there quicker. On the back staight @ Nelson Ledges I can almost wind out 5th gear. (if I don't get any frame wobble) but don't really pay attention to the speedo. I'm guessing I might hit 140. On the street with 3 over stock on the back,(again my glance at the speedo is quick) I think it maybe just short of 150mph. The needle is somewhere about 3o'clock.
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I've gotten FrankenBandit up to a buried spedo problem is that is still only 140ish IRL.
If I ever get it back from my mechanic I should be able to get a solid 160 out of it.
Mods:
Stage 3 FP jet kit, (reduced jet size from kit)
HS header, 2Bros pipe
custom cams
Milled head
Adjustable advancer (FP)
overbore kit (FP)
158 RWHP (180ish on a dyno brand)
Aero dynamics are in effect anything over 120ish. Especially with my fat ass on it..
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My mods
1998 Suzuki Bandit, J&E 13 to 1- 1246 Piston Kit, Lazer Level 3 Ported Head w/ over-size stainless steel, 30mm intake and 26mm exhaust, valves, APE bronze valve guides, Heavy Duty Valve Springs. CamMotion G21 Cams w/ Slotted Sprockets, Holeshot top end oiler kit, Mikuni 38mm Flatslide Carbs with K-N Pod Filters, Quarter Turn Throttle. 4” over swing arm, HEL Oversized Oil Cooler w/ SS Lines, Hindle SS Exhaust, Holeshot Power Shifter3, Dyna shift light, Pingel High Flow Petcock, GSXR 1100 Clutch, Cable clutch conversion, GSXR 1100 shock rebuilt by Lindeman, Front Forks Rebuilt by Lindeman, LSL Rearsets, Tokico 6 Pot Brakes w/ SS Lines,
155 RWH, 94 ft lb torque,
9.78 et at 139.84 mph best ¼ mile.
I believe that this bike will run close to 180 in the mile, I would like to take it to the Texas Mile and find out.
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My mods
1998 Suzuki Bandit, J&E 13 to 1- 1246 Piston Kit, Lazer Level 3 Ported Head w/ over-size stainless steel, 30mm intake and 26mm exhaust, valves, APE bronze valve guides, Heavy Duty Valve Springs. CamMotion G21 Cams w/ Slotted Sprockets, Holeshot top end oiler kit, Mikuni 38mm Flatslide Carbs with K-N Pod Filters, Quarter Turn Throttle. 4” over swing arm, HEL Oversized Oil Cooler w/ SS Lines, Hindle SS Exhaust, Holeshot Power Shifter3, Dyna shift light, Pingel High Flow Petcock, GSXR 1100 Clutch, Cable clutch conversion, GSXR 1100 shock rebuilt by Lindeman, Front Forks Rebuilt by Lindeman, LSL Rearsets, Tokico 6 Pot Brakes w/ SS Lines,
155 RWH, 94 ft lb torque,
9.78 et at 139.84 mph best ¼ mile.
I believe that this bike will run close to 180 in the mile, I would like to take it to the Texas Mile and find out.
Do you have the mixture screws drilled out to cure the off-idle stumble??
:grin:
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I'm running the Mikuni flatslides, nothing to drill out. They have an accelerator pump that shoots gas into the carbs when you open the throttle, so no stumble.
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I've gotten FrankenBandit up to a buried spedo problem is that is still only 140ish IRL.
If I ever get it back from my mechanic I should be able to get a solid 160 out of it.
:beers: Make that 150 Actual MPH.....
.... In a quarter mile :)!!!! W00T!!!
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So can one expect to reach an indicated 250km/hr (155mph) on stock 1200s bike, second generation? and a better question would be how does that compare with a stock Yamaha FZ1?
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I've had mine to an indicated 158 before I ran out of safe space to go any faster.
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So can one expect to reach an indicated 250km/hr (155mph) on stock 1200s bike, second generation? and a better question would be how does that compare with a stock Yamaha FZ1?
On standard gearing on my early Bandit an indicated 170mph (final mark on the speedo) was an actual 155mph (give or take 1mph). Basically 10% high, so an indicated 155 will in reality be about 140 which should be possible on a stock 1200 Bandit.
All the best
Keith
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I've got my 600s to show 150mph, I feel its about 135ish in real time :motorsmile:
This didn't raise an eyebrow for anyone else? My 12 was nearly done at an indicated 150, and that's with, what, 40 more hp?
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I've got my 600s to show 150mph, I feel its about 135ish in real time :motorsmile:
This didn't raise an eyebrow for anyone else? My 12 was nearly done at an indicated 150, and that's with, what, 40 more hp?
Does seem odd huh? And are you the same rowdyred from motorcycle-journal? If so welcome and when did you get here?
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Yup, that's me. I've been a member here for years, but I really didn't like the forum software back in the day, so I didn't get involved. Maybe now I will, not that I need another distraction from life. It looks like my account was deleted/lost due to inactivity, so I just re-registered to chime in regarding my headlight mod.
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Yup, that's me. I've been a member here for years, but I really didn't like the forum software back in the day, so I didn't get involved. Maybe now I will, not that I need another distraction from life. It looks like my account was deleted/lost due to inactivity, so I just re-registered to chime in regarding my headlight mod.
Well glad to have you. I don't come here as often because my work computer filter this place out. The other one comes through fine. Wonder why?
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Of course I give thanks to the only true and wise God (Jesus) for bringing me home safely and for giving man the knowledge to make and enjoy such machines in His creation.
Are you kidding me? Lets leave this stuff at home and not clutter the board with this nonsence.
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Of course I give thanks to the only true and wise God (Jesus) for bringing me home safely and for giving man the knowledge to make and enjoy such machines in His creation.
Are you kidding me? Lets leave this stuff at home and not clutter the board with this nonsence.
Give me a break! :duh:
It's not like he's preaching to you or trying to convert you.
Show a little tolerance for those who believe different from you.
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At this point with 20 mph sustained winds at 10 O'clock I decide to go completely prone and lose her so I leaned rested my chest against the tank, tucked my elbows and knees in and opened up the B12 full throttle for about 3 seconds and I was at 140 and at this speed I new I couldn't straiten up and could not go faster if I wanted to safely manage the 20 mph side winds so I just kept it there for about 2 minutes and to my surprise the lady in the gold Lasaber had finally given up as her car was just a pebble in my mirror, to my relief.
You honestly were surprised that the Buick couldn't hang with you at 140?
I don't know when GM started putting speed limiters in their cars, if it was with OBD-II ('96 models), or earlier, but I'm surprised it was hanging with you at 115 & 120, as most of the ordinary GMs are limited ~112. My '97 Buick Regal GS (supercharged V6) is limited at 123. Some LeSabres did come with the superchaged V6, but it's a heavier car than the Regal. Even if it were unlimited, I don't think it (the LeSabre or my Regal GS) could do 140.
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You honestly were surprised that the Buick couldn't hang with you at 140?
I don't know when GM started putting speed limiters in their cars, if it was with OBD-II ('96 models), or earlier, but I'm surprised it was hanging with you at 115 & 120, as most of the ordinary GMs are limited ~112.
Suspect the Bandit speedo is a fair way out at that speed. Probably getting on for 10%, so indicated 120 was probably about 110.
All the best
Keith
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I have a list of rpm vs speed for the bandit in my book.
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You honestly were surprised that the Buick couldn't hang with you at 140?
I don't know when GM started putting speed limiters in their cars, if it was with OBD-II ('96 models), or earlier, but I'm surprised it was hanging with you at 115 & 120, as most of the ordinary GMs are limited ~112.
Suspect the Bandit speedo is a fair way out at that speed. Probably getting on for 10%, so indicated 120 was probably about 110.
All the best
Keith
True, but I'd also suspect the car's speedo isn't telling the truth up there either and the computer will restrict it based on what the speedo says, not true speed.
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There is also this...when you have a cage on your ass, everything seems to go faster due to the PANIC factor. Bin there, done that! No fun!
It's amazing when in that situation how long it takes to realize how the right wrist works. Once you think straight and crack it, noooooo problem.
So, that being said, here's what happened to me a long time ago.....
Readers Digest version:
Coming home in the wee hours of the morning in my home town. Waiting to turn left at a red, large car pulls up to about a foot off the rear tire, hmmmmm. Green light, turn left into propoer lane, reach speed limit alls good. WRONG! Car is now about 2-3 feet of the tire. Signal, move to curb lane, car, no signals, does same, getting nervous. Signal again, pull back into middle lane, speed up a bit. Car now swerves over and is again sitting on back tire. OK, drop two gears, pin it and then have to move to curb lane to make right hand turn. Signal, slow down, look back, car is coming up fast on my ass again! Brake for stop sign and car cuts me off and basically blocks me against curb.
Guy jumps out, turns on flashlight and put on......his COP HAT!
Gives me the third degree about why I'm out, speeding and no signal on last lane change!!!!!! Recieved apropriate ticket for the offenses and leaves.
I was so pissed at what happened I went downtown the very same day and talked to a justice of the piece at the court house. After giving her the whole un-abridged version she asked me to give her the ticket and not to worry about it. At that point I explained that was great, but didn't address the fact that earlier ithat morning I was scared shitless down a dark stretch of road for several minutes by one of our cities finest. All she said was she'd look into it and that was it.
To sum it up there are good cops and bad cops and good riders and bad riders. But when you're in it it's still scary.
THE END
Thanks for reading, and be careful out there. When in doubt pin it and go!
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True, but I'd also suspect the car's speedo isn't telling the truth up there either and the computer will restrict it based on what the speedo says, not true speed.
More likely it would work off the rpm and the known gearbox ratios and be a bit more accurate than the speedo (well, maybe, as long as it is not an R6 rev counter :roll: ).
All the best
Keith
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fast enough to land you in jail
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I have 1999 1200s and have gotten up to 150. maybe a tad higher but at that speed I my tach was almost to 9000. redline is 10500. Spedo is stock but I will take my gps next time and we will get an accurate speed. that's not to say I will wind it out. its freekin windy at that speed and the stability isin't that great. I was racing some kind of BMW sedan on the interstate and the car was keeping up. I was not gaining on him by much thats for sure!
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Had my 2001K1 up to 200km/hr the other day it was pulling 7000rpm it went from 160-200km/hr in a couple of seconds, and was still pulling fast before I chickened out, thats too fast for me guys! Wow
Mine a standard bike except for Scorpion Can & jets
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I was racing some kind of BMW sedan on the interstate and the car was keeping up. I was not gaining on him by much thats for sure!
Must've been modified. I raced a Chrysler 300C SRT8 on the highway and was ahead at least 10 car lengths by 120.
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how fast will a 2005 bandit 1200s go?
Plaid.
:grin:
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open her up and amaze/scare/laugh/cry/shout your self and find the answer
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how fast will a 2005 bandit 1200s go?
Plaid.
:grin:
Three weeks ago a nice calm sunny day and one long stretch of road and the only one on it. Cracked the throttle and watched the speedo reach 250 kmh. It took me half an hour to unpucker my freckle from seat so I could get off the bike. The bike was stable the whole time but it took me ages to find my sea legs again. Thats enough for me but shit what a thrill
:shock:
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I had my '97 1200s reading 160 on the speedo :motorsmile: . Still pulling and solid as a rock. :banana: That was at 6:30 A.M. on rt 222 between Ephrata and Brownstown in Pa. The cops call it the PA autobahn. Last year they clocked a guy in a 350z at 150mph :shock: and he stopped :?:
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160 indicated? That's moving. Most I've seen is 140 indicated and it was still accelerating pretty good. I think my speedo indicates 7% high, so that translates to 130 true. Maybe someday I'll find out what it'll do top end.
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You know that the first street leagal motorcycle to run the 1/4 mile in the 7s was a Bandit 1200. The Bandit will still run with any thing out there, if you have the Money. :beers:
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If you put a Bandit in the cargo hold of a Space Shuttle and send it up, it'll do >17,000 mph coming back down... :stickpoke:
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its not the top speed that i love about my bike
its the low down grunt its got
pulls like a train you cant beat it .....
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I was reading somewhere that the Busa is the most aerodynamic factory motorcycle sold. Interesting enough it only has the same drag co-efficiant numbers as an average 4 door sedan.
It appears mostocycles as we know them are not very streamlined.
I have had my bandit's speedo buried at 260 km/h, but how fast that was actually, I will never know.
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Hi
Bike aerodynamics are awful. Suspect a 'busa is only as good as a pretty poor car.
Think 260kmh (162.5mph) probably workks out at about 148mph true.
All the best
Keith
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I know this is a super old thread, but out of curiosity for the sharp bandit/tuning guys:
On the track, acheived 140 indicated at about 9k rpm in fourth. Some crosswind, nothing horrible. Shift to 5th neither gained nor lost mph. Pretty close to perfectly level, 55 farenheit, a little under 2,000 ft elevation. Yosh with packing + quiet core. OEM air filter, snorkel. I assumed my carbs were stock, but I'm wondering if they've been tinkered with and my bike is performing worse than factory. Did not run out of road, wide open and "stalled" at 140 indicated. 90 octane ethanol free fuel.
I'm about 210 geared up, full tuck behind a double bubble type ST shield, maybe 2" taller than factory. Bike runs well as far as I can tell, perhaps a little soft up top compared to the mid-range.
Been telling myself to leave the carbs alone because it runs smoothly on the street (where I ride almost exclusively), but I see claims of and videos of guys running up to 155 indicated all over.
Just wondering if any of you sharpies think this indicates a tuning issue or is about right for performance. I'm tempted to try the holeshot stage 1 kit, but am also lazy and cheap, and was hoping my carb tinkering days were behind me. Thanks!
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Update, still haven't been in my carbs, but checked the air screws, 1 through 3 were 2.5ish, 4 was .5! Set them all to 2.5, seems to idle a little smoother (although already idled well). Seems to run a hair better, and achieved indicated 148ish. I kind of doubt air screws adjustment would make a difference at Max throttle/rpm, but I was pretty level, and still had significant crosswind.
I may try the factory 3 turns out, although it seems to fuel pretty well to me at small throttle openings and idle.
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Final update: had a pinched diaphragm on #4 carb. Installed Holeshot stage 1, removed quiet core from my Yosh because I was a hair rich. Ran up to indicated 160 or a hair over (2002 with analog speedo), slight uphill, favorable wind. Ran out of track. Still pulling slowly, and now will pull 5th, where before it didn't have the steam.
Not sure what the speedo error is on these bikes, but I was surprised the big girl had that in her. Not quite Rx/cbrxxx/zxxr stable at that speed, but not horrible either. Very cross-wind sensitive. (I'm assuming the Bandit was not a wind tunnel bike)
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(I'm assuming the Bandit was not a wind tunnel bike)
I read somewhere years ago, the only models to see a wind tunnel are the Busa and GSXR