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MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: land_shark on February 13, 2006, 12:51:54 PM

Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on February 13, 2006, 12:51:54 PM
There was some discussion HERE (http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=2486&highlight=stacked) about a stacked headlight fairing from Banditmania.  I'm interested in a fairingless style stacked headlight setup.  I've been having a hard time finding them, so if anyone knows any by name or where I can find them, please let me know.

I'm trying to find some examples to post in the meantime...

Thanks!
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on February 13, 2006, 12:58:56 PM
...like this, without the fairing:
(http://bandit.eng.uiowa.edu:8088/~jgrundst/misc/mantis_mix.jpg)
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on February 14, 2006, 03:43:01 PM
found something on ebay that's about as close as anything else I've seen.  Still more 'stuff' on them than I'm looking for (and a little more $$): CLICK HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/Ultimate-Streetfighter-Twin-Headlights-with-LED-Chrome_W0QQitemZ8038096354QQcategoryZ25628QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)


Looks like I may end up making my own...
Title: project started
Post by: land_shark on February 27, 2006, 11:01:29 AM
Ok, I had a little time this weekend to make some headway on my streetfighter project (moving slow, but I think this is going to be a long-term kinda thing).  Here's what's happening...

    * I got a set of LSL street bars (low rise, lightly swept, aluminum),
    * some new grips as the old ones are pretty shot,
    * a couple cheap imitation projector headlights (temporary, $20 at wally world)
    * an old headlight/fairing bracket from a previous tip-over to make a mount for the new lights

Pics:

(http://bandit.eng.uiowa.edu:8088/~jgrundst/misc/bandit_sf/bars1.JPG)

(http://bandit.eng.uiowa.edu:8088/~jgrundst/misc/bandit_sf/bars2.JPG)

Any advice on getting stashing this mess of wiring would be most appreciated!  ...in the meantime I'll search through old posts
(http://bandit.eng.uiowa.edu:8088/~jgrundst/misc/bandit_sf/wiring1.JPG)

Mock up of the new lights, not installed yet...
(http://bandit.eng.uiowa.edu:8088/~jgrundst/misc/bandit_sf/dual_lights1.JPG)
Title: Re: project started
Post by: Cruisecontrol on February 28, 2006, 05:29:43 AM
Quote from: "land_shark"

Any advice on getting stashing this mess of wiring would be most appreciated!


When I put a new set of lights on the front of mine I cut out the majority of wiring to the instruments. The connectors take up a lot of room so I cut them out with the extra length and soldered the wires.
Once I did that I just took the extra slack from the other wires and fed them back into the space behind the frame cover and zip tied them.
It is not perfect but it tidied things right up.
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on February 28, 2006, 01:42:05 PM
Cutting the connectors out will probably be my best bet.  What will be the major drawback of doing that?  Just that it will be more difficult to remove the instrument cluster?  Maybe it would be better (although possibly more work) to cut the connectors out, solder the wires together, then splice the connector in further up the wires (so they can sit behind the frame).

Hard to strateegerize and visualize while I'm sitting at work...
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: PitterB4 on February 28, 2006, 04:18:19 PM
Looks cool, Jason.

I'm struggling with the wires thing too.  I just went to the standard, side-by-side lights.  Because I have low bars (SM Type 1s), I've got friggin wires everywhere.  I did cut/solder a couple of the really long nasty looking ones.  I know my little 4 is different but when I went to cut out the connectors, i noticed that I had one more wire in the upstream end of the plugs than was coming out of the downstream end!   :duh:   That officially went past my crappy skills.  I'm just going to have to live with the ball-'o-'lectrical tape I have behind the lights and tucked in the frame.  I do have a windscreen that should hide some of it.  

Good luck!
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on February 28, 2006, 04:36:47 PM
Quote from: "PitterB4"
...i noticed that I had one more wire in the upstream end of the plugs than was coming out of the downstream end!   :duh:


I am certainly expecting that to happen to me :lol:   I'd really like to keep the connectors intact, so I'll probably just give the wad-o-tape method a chance before I start slashing and burning.  There is quite a bit of room back there in the 1200, so we'll see what happens...

Thanks a bunch for the input, Cruisecontrol, PitterB4, it's been a pretty slow thread!  :sad:
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: Red01 on March 01, 2006, 10:41:13 AM
Panduits (aka zip ties) can be your friend, too, if you don't want to molest the OEM wiring any more than you have to.  You can use a method we refer to here at the airplane factory as "coil and stow" and tie the coil up to a few different spots the coil from getting into trouble spots where it could be damaged or cause interference with something else.
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: ttewejnodnarb on March 01, 2006, 01:39:41 PM
I don't know if it would look like crap or not but you could try a small ABS black plastic project box ala Radio Shack mounted behind the lights vertically to coil and stow the wires in.

Just a thought.
Title: lights
Post by: tannerismyhero on March 07, 2006, 11:42:44 AM
Hey landshark, how do those lights work at night? Are they bright enough to ride safely after dark?
Title: Re: lights
Post by: land_shark on March 07, 2006, 12:03:36 PM
Quote from: "tannerismyhero"
Hey landshark, how do those lights work at night? Are they bright enough to ride safely after dark?

Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to mount or operate them quite yet.  I think the camera's flash caused them to look lit in the pic.  Each bulb is 55w, so I would assume they will be good at night.

I'll be sure to post more on my progress once I get going again.  We're looking into building a house, and selling our current townhouse.  Hopefully with the new 3-car garage I'll have enough room to get this job done  :wink:  ....hmm, I'll need a bigger beer fridge too  :monkeymoon:  :banana:
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: Soro on April 07, 2006, 10:50:32 PM
Landshark, did you ever get the lights up and running? How did they work?
I dig those stacked lights from England. I'm still looking for the right look for the front of my project bike.
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on April 10, 2006, 12:36:09 PM
Quote from: "Soro"
Landshark, did you ever get the lights up and running? How did they work?
I dig those stacked lights from England. I'm still looking for the right look for the front of my project bike.

Hey Soro, still haven't mounted the lights yet.  However, I did just complete my first welding class last Saturday at the local community college  :motorsmile:   I think the 6 week course is going to be a great experience for me.  ...much harder than they make it look on TV!! :shock:  Anyone can stick pieces of metal together, but to do it well and consistently with different types of metal is a real talent.  Anyway, as I start getting the hang of things, I'll bring in my own pieces and start figuring out how I'm going to make the bracket.

I'll post pics as soon as things start happening.  Thanks for the interest!  Have you come up with anything good for your own project?
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: Soro on April 12, 2006, 03:25:38 PM
Quote from: "land_shark"

I'll post pics as soon as things start happening.  Thanks for the interest!  Have you come up with anything good for your own project?


I never found a headlight kit that I 100% loved. So right now I just modified the front lights/stay/etc. I'm actually pretty happy with it. Next week a bunch of performance stuff is coming. Yay. Time to work on the engine and brakes.

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f379/Soroworks/Front.jpg)
(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f379/Soroworks/Front3.jpg)
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on April 12, 2006, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: "Soro"
Quote from: "land_shark"

I'll post pics as soon as things start happening.  Thanks for the interest!  Have you come up with anything good for your own project?


I never found a headlight kit that I 100% loved. So right now I just modified the front lights/stay/etc. I'm actually pretty happy with it. Next week a bunch of performance stuff is coming. Yay. Time to work on the engine and brakes.


 :shock: Wow!  That's actually one of the coolest set-ups I've seen  :beers: How much work did you have to put into modifying the bracket?
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: Soro on April 12, 2006, 06:37:12 PM
Thanks for the compliment. I cut off four sections of metal (two posts and two tabs). Ground down the left over weld beads and then a little black spay paint. I also plugged all the open tubes with various stuff I had around my shop.

I still might fuss with the fairing bracket one more time to shorten the yoke (how far it projects out from the head tube). If I'm going to do this then I'm going to make a jig so that I don't screw up the headlight placement, etc.

Great to hear that you’re taking a welding class. Are you learning Stick, Mig, and Tig? I worked 5 years at a metal fab shop and this old guy that was there could weld iron with a gas torch. He was incredible. His welds look like a row of dimes lying staggered on top of each other.
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on April 12, 2006, 06:42:17 PM
I'm taking Mig.  my welds currently look like duck shit on a picnic table  :sad:   Even if I don't end up using the skill much down the road, learning more about how to work with and use metal will be pretty valuable.  ...that plasma cutter is a lot of fun, too  :banana:
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: deepink on April 19, 2006, 12:38:31 AM
Hey SORO - I really like those LED turn signals.  Who makes them?, and where can I get em.
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: Soro on April 19, 2006, 04:23:03 PM
Quote from: "deepink"
Hey SORO - I really like those LED turn signals.  Who makes them?, and where can I get em.


Deepink,

I got them off E-bay (I can't remember how much, I think $89.00) and they are from this Italian company called Mad Doctor's Creatures. Here is the link to their site:
Linky (http://www.maddoctor.it/index.php?lang=EN)
Here is a link to buy them from  MRI (http://www.ridersinc.com/store/customer/product.php?productid=7113&cat=2771&page=1)
The lights are really cool. You can set them in three positions using a tiny allen key. Nice and bright also.
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: deepink on April 30, 2006, 10:38:54 PM
I came across these this evening - though it might help

http://www.hesa-motorsport.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/93_104/products_id/605


not really sure how much 29900 euro is though?
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: Red01 on May 01, 2006, 11:17:52 AM
It's only 299.00 Euros... the Europeans use a comma where we use a decimal, and a decimal where we use a comma.

The rate at this moment is:
1 EUR = $1.26342 US  $1 US = 0.791499 EUR
So, 299.00 EUR = $377.64 US

(Courtesy of http://www.xe.com )
Title: Looking for naked stacked headlights
Post by: land_shark on May 01, 2006, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: "deepink"
I came across these this evening - though it might help

http://www.hesa-motorsport.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/93_104/products_id/605


not really sure how much 29900 euro is though?

Certainly cool!  I think I'm still going to work for a cowl-less look.  I'm guessing that it should only cost me a few $$ in materials, as a bonus.  After riding around with nothing on the front end, however, I was starting to re-consider.  Even the smallest bit of a screen up there makes a huge difference in wind protection!  But, the bandit is going to be my burn-out bike, so no need for long distance comfort ;)

...I've really been dragging my feet on getting this finished!  Hopefully I'll be able to get everything put together this weekend.