Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: Robbieukb12 on March 11, 2005, 02:57:15 PM
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Hello there
After much deliberation i have changed from my Avon Azaro's to the Metzelers roadtec z6, only got them today and after having them fitted it started to rain :crybaby: so can't say much about them at the mo'.
The reviews i have read though sound pretty good so i'll keep you all informed.
Any one got these fitted ? i'd be interested in your thoughts
cheers
Robbie
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I haven't tried them, but the reviews I've read have been pretty positive. The only complaint I've read is they are hard to tell when they get worn down in the middle since there's no tread there. This fact also makes me wary of their wet road performance, though most seem to say it's OK as the front pushes the water out of the way. I'm still a skeptic on that though. I'd rather have some tread grooves across the middle.
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That was a good thought Paul so i have e-mailed Metzeler asking them why no tread pattern in the centre. When i get a reply i'll post it.
I thought about putting the sportec on but changed my mind cause i wanted something a little harder wearing.
Robbie
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I don't know how they do it, but the reviews claim that the Z6 is one of the best wet weather tires on the market as well as the best dry grip sport touring tire. I am still toying with buying the Continental Road attacks, I've heard nothing but good things about them. :grin:
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I've had my Z6's for about half a year now and I'm very happy with them. I've ridden in rain, through twisties, you name it, and I recommend them to anyone who'll listen. They're a really great tire.
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Cheers Kam' thanks for the info.
I see your from N.Y. i flew the pond last june for a friends wedding in Rutherford .N.J. and took the bus into New York a couple times wow sure is an eye opener i can't wait to go back.
All the best
Robbie
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No problem man. Glad I could be of help and that you liked out little old town. Let me know next time you come out!
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Glad to see someone has the roadtechs on! Been thinking about putting Metzlers on this spring and didn't know anyone that had them. Thanks for the post. I've been pulling my Bandit up to NY almost every year for the past 6 years in August or early September and riding the east end of Long Island. Pretty scenery out there on both forks!
KT
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KT,
I like to head out there as well. I'll suddenly get a *cough, cough*, and call in sick and spend the whole day out there, from Port Washington to Montauk.
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Lunch at Claudio's in Greenport ain't bad at all!! Lunch at the Lobster Inn on hwy 27, (just as it turns to 2 lane) doesn't suck either. I'm in the restaurant business so a lot of my travels include finding good places to eat.
KT
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I have to try those two out. I like to stop by The Steam Room in in Port Jeff and hang out with all the other bikers in the parking lot across the street afterwards.
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Robbieukb12 On your head be it! have just ordered a new Z6 for my back, so hope it a good one. Also what you got on the front end? :roll:
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OH NO what have i done :duh: the z6 are crap!! No just joking since putting them on i havn't had much time to go and play, i havn't even scrubbed them in but i still think there a damn good tyre (thats what all the reviews keep saying anyway :banana: )
I put z6's on front and rear i always change both tyres at the same time. I know alot of people don't but thats just me i prefer fresh rubber all in one go.
Keep us informed and let us know what you think.
Oh and how much did you get them for? i paid £190 for the pair on a ride in ride out.
Cheers
Robbie
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Glad I don't live in the UK! £190 = $358.18 at today's rate.
A set of Z6's for a B12, mounted and balanced can be had for $240 (£127.32), maybe even less if you shop harder than I just did to find a price.
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I can go off poeple you know RED01, yes everything is more in this counrty. Im paying £85 but i've taken the wheel off. I'll ask how much the front is dont think they have a ride in ride out service. I know National Tyres do but never like there prices in the past.
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Your not wrong there Jack'.
Hey Red bet you don't have to pay 17.5% tax either, The pound is alot stronger than the dollar at the minute thats why our prices look even more outrageous than normal :duh: .
But it's great when we come over to you everything seems so cheap :banana:
Robbie
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That nice man at No.11 Downing St is looking to increase the tax free buy from £120 to £1000. So watch out Red you might get bought! :banana:
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Your not wrong there Jack'.
Hey Red bet you don't have to pay 17.5% tax either,
Robbie
You're right... I can buy products from the UK or EU and not pay their atrocious VAT, and if I buy my stuff from a mail-order or e-store that's not in my home state, I don't have to pay my state's sales tax (7.9-8.9% depending on city/county add-ons).
The price I gave wouldn't be for ride-in/ride-out service though... it would be for e-store (incl shipping) and carry-in mount/bal locally.
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Mind you I was thinking of around £120 for the front so its not all bad. but a $127 thats unreal. Wish we had prices like that! :monkeymoon:
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Have now got my Z6 on the back, boy does it look good. Will break it in over the next 100 miles, then im going for it! :stickpoke:
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Too right i'll be joining you in tearing the rear up, i'll finally have the time to scrub it in next week.
all the best
Robbie
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The z6s are great!
I've put about 1300 on 'em so far.
Not too much wet riding yet, but they feel much better than the macadams did in the twistys.
Due to the not as rounded profile, the bike also leans over quicker now too.
So now it likes to lean and likes to stay in a lean.
:motorsmile:
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Yeah i noticed a difference in the profile while riding it felt weird at first, the bike just wanted to drop into the courner quicker. soon got that one sorted.
Got the chicken strips down to about 1/4 inch , just got to have the balls to get my knee down now and scrub my knee slders in that'll stop the guys at work from taking the piss out of them or maybe i'll just get the sander on them :banana:
Robbie
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I've been running a set of Z6's on my SV1000 for a couple of weeks now.. About 750 miles at this point... Mostly N.Ga/TN/NC twisties taken at unmentionable speeds... I've been very impressed with the grip, feedback, and the fact that it has a sport/track tire profile so they don't impart any odd handling characteristics... Not sure I'd run them at a trackday but I am a firm believer that they are the best all-around tire for street use right now... Money well spent.... :beers:
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Quick question for the guys that were running z4 and
and have now worn out at least one set of the z6.
Did your milage go up or down and your opinion
on whether the z6 was more sticky or less so;
:beers: :beers: :beers:
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Quick question for the guys that were running z4 and
and have now worn out at least one set of the z6.
Did your milage go up or down and your opinion
on whether the z6 was more sticky or less so;
:beers: :beers: :beers:
I had a set of Z4's on my SV650 that I got a bit over 8k miles on.
The Z6's are MUCH stickier in my opinion... If I get anywhere near 8k out of the Z6's I'll be EXTREMELY pleased...
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Well guys, I had the MeZ4's on my bike and they were toast in about 5K. I was also not real impressed with the grip. They "say" the Z6's are better in the grip department but I'm not sure I want to spend the bucks to find out. I think I'll stick with the Avons. Good grip and mileage combined, and not that expensive either.
Dave
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Well, not have any other tyre to compair agian'st the Z6 is good I've done about 2k on them in a few week, and they shit like shit in the corners as a newbe to riding, im just starting to get the bike right over and I mean right over. They are sticky in the twisty's. And I do feel safe with them, so would buy the Z6's agian :motorsmile:
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I ran the Avons before i had the Z6's on and at the moment there about on par with each other, what i did find was that the Z6 has a more triangulaur profile than the Avons which if your not expecting it turns into corners very quickly.
I was told to me by the tyre dealer and i forgot all about it until i had scrubbed them in and tried a knee down round an island on the way to work one morning. :shock:
Robbie
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I am on my second set of Z6's and love them. A review at:
http://www.canyonchasers.net/reviews/accessories/metzeler.php
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Just replaced my stock rear tire at 2.5k.....:(
I am looking forward to my new Z6
$167 (tire and mounting)
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What caused such an early demise to a stock tire? A flat?
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not sure...but it looked bad to me...
(http://66.155.114.22/banditalley/Signal9/stock%20rear%20tire%202500%20miles.JPG)
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That's some pretty nasty scuffing you had there.
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Putting Z6's on my bandit tomorrow. Got something in my rear D205 that is causeing a slow leak so I'm just chunking it and switching to the Metzlers. I'll post my thoughts on them after I put a few miles on.
KT
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Putting Z6's on my bandit tomorrow. Got something in my rear D205 that is causeing a slow leak so I'm just chunking it and switching to the Metzlers. I'll post my thoughts on them after I put a few miles on.
KT
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I toasted my BT-010s at Willeville last weekend, so I'm having a set of Roadtec Z6s put on my Bandit now. Will let you know what I think.
I got about 7K on the rear and about 9K on the front on the 010s. Hope the Z6s get as good mileage.
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Just replaced the front.......M1 got around 14,000km out of which is more than the OEM Macadam piece of shyte.......how impressed am I with the M1........well I put another M1 on the front, cost $199 including fitting.
The MEZ4 on the rear has around 5000km on it and looks as though I can get another 5000 out of yet.
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KT, Im very happy with my Z6 front and back, have done around 1500miles and have no problems with them, good it the turns have not done much wet work but when I did they still stuck to the road. :banana:
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Like i've said before you can't go wrong with the Met's Z6 there the absolute dogs bollocks.
Wet or dry, hot or cold they stick like s**t to a blanket.
Thats my little ole' opinion anyway :bigok:
Robbie
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Just got home from putting my Z6's on. If the ride home is any indication of what these tires can do, all I have to say is....WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOO! Even though I was taking it easy because they are new, they felt like they were pulling me into the curves. Definately a confidence builder.
KT
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I agree Kim. I've got a couple of hundred miles on my Z6s and so far I'm very impressed with them.
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Hey Gary! I'm impressed also! I went back out late yesterday afternoon and rode another 15 or 20 miles on 176 between Saluda and Tryon and MAN ! These things stick like glue!
KT
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yep i have had z6 on for about a month v good tyer :congrats: and because the rounder profile its lither on the curves :motorsmile:
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Well the z6s don't handle quite the same after you do this to the rear:
(http://xantari.com/imgs/worn_z6.jpg)
I don't think those metal strands are supposed to act as wear bars...
This was after about 5k with a lot of Interstate riding loaded with gear, plus I think I was a few pounds low on pressure.
I'm actually thought I'd try the Diablo Stradas this time 'round.
I think I actually like them better. I hear Pereli owns Metzler and the Stradas are made of the same compounds as the z6s. They certainly grip. I think I like the profile of the Stradas better. While the z6s let the bike flip into corners due to the more triangular profile, the stradas are more gradual and grip at whatever angle I put the bike at. I think they also make it easier to move back and fouth from different lean angles.
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I'm a rather conservative rider looking for some tires that are stickier than my BT020s for an upcoming trackday and some back roads riding this season. The Z-6 is at the top of my list.
Did you guys use the B-spec (stiffer wall) Z-6 or the normal one? I'm about 175 lb soaking wet, so rider weight should be pretty low, but the Bandit 12 isn't exactly a lightweight.
I'll try not to do any Iron Butt rides with them; looks like the middles go south in a hurry.
Dave
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I've replaced stock tires with Z6 after I got a flat. Major difference. The bike just wants to lean into a corner. The tires were definitely a confidence builder for me (<1 year experience). I'd get them again if I had to.