Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: Elmojo on April 01, 2005, 11:33:29 PM
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Anyone have experience with these? I was in Ron Ayers the other day, and noticed that they have them in stock bandit size for a bit under $200 for F/R including tax! woo-hoo!
What do you all think of them, if anything?
Mike P.
'02 B12s
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I'm not famillar with them but I just bought a set of Pirelli Diablo Stratas for my B12 for 215.00. So for not much more money you should be able to get good, name brand tires. Just my .02's worth.
Mike M.
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The boys down under have had this brand around for a while and I guess they've been on US tracks for a bit. Haven't heard any flaming negatives on 'em. Maybe some of the Oz/NZ riders will speak up with more info.
OTOH, you can get name brand tires for the B12 for <$200 (with shipping) if you shop around.
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Someone asked this same ? in the April issue of Motor Cyclist. They have heard good things about them in track use. They should have a full review soon.
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I myself haven't tried them but B6Mick swears by them, reckons they're the ducks guts, every bit as good as the Metzlers but a damned site cheaper.
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Got a pair 120f-190r 009 (hi mile street / tour) Shinko radial zr rating. I am tired of changing worn out in the middle tires every 5 to 6k. Bike used for to & from work, 22mi ea way. Daytona Florida so ride all year, except in hurricanes!!! Tried all the Dunlop, Bridgstone, Azaro, Conti,, The most i got was from the Mich Mac a call it!! 7k Shinko's have been on for over 2k now, i'm not a knee dragger, my B12 has 29k on it, 16 x 43 tooth sprockets for I-95 commuting. To old to care about wheelies. The 009 which is the sport / tour holds the corners as well as any i've used, show no signs of any wear @ this point. (took 500mi to wear the rubber te te's off!!! And the best of all they cost me! 120F & 190R 009 $157.00 for both to my door over the web! (not ebay!!!) For you sport riders If the 005's are as good as the 009's i say Whats not to like! P/s 190 isn't for, or won't fit your stock B12 unless you !!!
Just an update on the Shinko 009 120/190's close to 4k on em, rear is @ 5/32 @ center (start with 7/32) front looks like it was just installed! no signs of wear!! Rear i have scuff marks almost too the edge of these fat 190's so i'm not a total winp on the corners! Great grip in the wet, as any i've used. Air pressure seems to stay the same not like some others i've had. AZ m sports seem to be dropping the ball! had some complaints from folks i've suggested these to, but they do arrive sooner/mostly later. I see they won't have the 190's till the end of this month. If you aren't going to install these yourself? I wouldn't be ordering until i check the total cost from those who will! some sock it to ya if you bring em with you!!! Great tire so far even if they weren't so cheap! they won't be for long once they get their foot in the door!!
New update 8/3 over 5k on em of I95 straight, middle of tire wearing miles. Just under 5/32 tread depth left in the middle of the rear! 7/32 in middle of the front! which is what they start at. Front has feathered the tread on the left side of the tire (minor) i was running the 33psi the tag said, bumped it up to 39 the tire says up to 42 seems to have helped. Normal L-side wear for us that drive on the R-side of the road. This is the best mileage i've ever gotten out of any i've used! By now all others would be ready to change. The 190 on the rear seems to flatten out for more rubber on the road. I'm sold on em! I would like to sign up for training with those that can get 12k miles out of a dunloped or bridg rock i wore those out in 5k or less!
I'm thinking of ordering my spare soon and heard of somone getting mega miles out of a 170/60/17 rear tire on a b12!! any words????Update 8/18 5.5k 4/32 left to go! I'm ordering my spare from az now. Do you see what some educated ebay shoppers are paying for these!!!? No i'm not a seller of these just a happy customer of shinko's. Hope they don't run into some oil ceo's on the golf course that teaches them how to make big profit on GOUGING the consumer! One could almost make it worth the time to buy a few and sell em on ebay! Here is the shinko info site link if your interested.
Well Here it is almost 4 months later front tire will last another rear with no prob! Still has 5/32 and no more feather wear since i increased the air pressure. (P/S you knee dragger want to beezz, I'd say get the 005 front and 009 rear! let em wear out together. A ausie on this site said they were doing that too) The rear has 3/32 on one side in the middle & 4/32 on the other! Yep has a bit of vibration i can feel if i get over 90mph. No biggie i'll use that to remind me i don't need to. Ordered my new one, got it in one week $95.00 for a 190-50x17 009 shipped to my door. Still won't get but a bit over 6.5k on the rear! I must not use the front enough i still have f-b pads that came with bike new & in good shape. So far their isn't anything i can say that is neg about these tires!! These tires (009's) rock all around!!! :grin:
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P/s 190 isn't, or won't fit your stock B12 unless you !!!
Unless you what?
Where did you get them from?
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P/s 190 isn't, or won't fit your stock B12 unless you !!!
Unless you what?
Where did you get them from?
Fwd end of your rear brake caliper brace has to be moved outboard on the swing arm bracket just unbolt, move, rebolt. Works for me! 20k running 190's of all kind. the shinko's are the widest of em all. 009 is the ones i own. :beers: Took a week to get em after paying with c.card shipping included.
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Aussiebandit is right, I do swear by them, best allrounder of a tyre I have found in 28 years of street riding. Love them and love the price even better. The last rear on the b6 lasted 23 and half thousand k's, I think that works out at just a tad under 15 thousand miles. Wet or dry it gripped as good as any. :banana:
Yep I use the 009, a mate uses the 005's on his gsx1400 reckons they are the best he ever used, so impressed he now sells them at his shop, and thats the only tyre he sells.
And for the knee scrappers the 003's are getting some rave reports.
But I reckon the 009's are just fine, and I do ride like a nutter, ( Ask aussiebandit :stickpoke: ) I just take an extra mile to warm them up. :motorsmile:
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B6mick tells the truth - he does ride like a nutter - oh has the minister of war forgiven you for Gods Road yet.
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B6mick tells the truth - he does ride like a nutter - oh has the minister of war forgiven you for Gods Road yet.
In one word..... NO
Is she going too, Probably NOT
But next time I say I'm going for a play, will she listen. MAYBE
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Maybe next time she'll have a bike that works properly.......
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Maybe next time she'll have a bike that works properly.......
Of course she will, soon she gets the beloved B6.
I'm feeling sad already :boohoo:
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Hey at least it's still in the family and you'll get to ride it occaisonally
- my sister traded my beloved GSX600F in on her new VTR1000 - now I'll never be able to ride it again :crybaby:
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Tires unlimited has the Shinko, now...
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/Shinko_tires.htm
Looks like $160 or so, without shipping, for a set of the 009 for a 1200.
(http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/Shinko%20Tires/shinko_Raven009.jpg)
Az motorsports has the same set, in stock B12 sizes for $135, without shipping. SOunds like a deal...
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They sure have some interesting tread patterns:
003 (race):
(http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/Shinko%20Tires/Shinko%20003%20Race.jpg)
006:
(http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/Shinko%20Tires/Shinko%20006.jpg)
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I think the tread patterns are derived from those developed for high speed Korean tractors, Rob..... :motorsmile:
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Interesting had not seen the 006.
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My buddy just put one ( the race soft compound) on his Hayabusa for drag racing. Last two seasons he had a drag slick. This Shinko will not let him do a burnout. It's that sticky. Can't say anything about tire life and we won't find out from him as it's totally a drag race bike.
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Hey guys!
Well, we're about to find out about these Shinko's.
I just ordered a set of the 009 'Raven' sport touring tires for my '02 b12s.
I'll post opinions once they are on. I'm replacing the stock Macadam 90X crap-O-rubbers, so almost anything has to be an improvement! I got both front and rear in stock size for $154 shipped. That's about $50 less than the lowest Metzeler set I could find on the web. I plan to have Ron Ayers install them if they (the tires) ever show up. I gotta say, so far I'm not impressed with AZ motorsports' customer service. We'll see how it all plays out though...
Shiny side up!
Mike Piantanida IV
2002 b12s
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Ye ha.
At last I have managed to get a shinko 005 for the front of the B6. watch this space for the full report.
Gee I hope its as good as the 009 on the back, boy racers watch out, no more shitty MEZ4 on the front, the weak link in the past.
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Ok we finally got some weather over the week end that was, lets just say, dry enough to at least scrub a new front tyre in.
Well I am not suprised at all, after having used the 009 on the rear of the b6 now for couple of years now.
At first I must admitt, it felt strange, it tracked extremely well, and its straight line stablity was there, from the start. And it did take about 40 k's to work out the right tyre pressure, I started at 37psi what I used in the MEZ4, and finally settled for 35psi, but I feel its still a little to hard, over the next month and with a few weekend rides and daily work riding to work it out.
As most people that I know of who are all die hard shinko users, the strangness soon disapears, its willingness to turn in and fall over, is soon accepted and used to good effect. So much so that the 10mm of forks I have sitting up through the upper triple tree will remain. Yes the best of both worlds my friends, its extremely stable in a straight line and it turns in real smart. :motorsmile: as I said before in a earlier post boy racers watch out, the B6 has always been an eager beaver both in and out of corners, but now with less effort and more confidence. :banana: , this tyre is going to crap over the MEZ4, and by what people I know who are using the 005 on the front, I should still get the same mileage out of. Mind you the MEZ4 did last 30,000 k's 18,000 miles. But even if it dont last as long the RRP, is like 2/3 of the RRP of the MEZ4.
Dont get me wrong for many years I've been a fan of the MEZ4 its a great allrounder, and if I had not been able to finally get the importer to bring one in, I would have undoubtably put another MEZ4 on the front again.
Update 14 July
Happy as a pig in pooh, Melb has thrown its worst motorcycling weather at me for 2 days, Bloody cold and wet, if the bloody thing was going to let go it would have. :grin: :grin: :grin: :motorsmile: :motorsmile:
Update 15 July
Yeha, some dry weather, and with the confidence built up in the worst weather, its not long before both left and right hand pegs are copping the road way lightening system. :banana: :banana: :banana: :grin: :grin:
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Ok, 5 thousand K's up on the 005 front, yeh I'm happy real happy, better stick than the MEZ4. Great wet road tyre too. Will I use the 005 again, you betya, btw now have 15 thousand k's up the second 009, yep gonna crack 23 maybe 25 thousand again.
In my books as if I have to tell you guys,
SHINKO TYRES ROCK
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Well, mounted my 009's today. They definately feel different. Ya gotta love 2 tires shipped mounted and balanced for under $200.00!!!! I have always ran Bridgestone BT010/14's in the past. The front end feels much lighter, and it feels as if the tires turn in quicker, but I can also feel the rear end trying to pull it out of the turn at the same time.
Maybe just takes some getting used to. Excellent grip so far, even when brand new! I will update as the miles are layed down.
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Maybe just takes some getting used to. Excellent grip so far, even when brand new! I will update as the miles are layed down.
Mate I know what ya saying, everybody I know who has tried them says exactly the same thing. I to said it the first time round, but trust me when you get used to the feel, it will all come naturally. BTW everybody who I ride with have now tried the shinko's, some have gone the full sports 003, but most have gone with the 005 front and 005 0r 009 rear.
Not one of them is considering going and putting anything else on after they are worn out.
Mate if this is what they call cheap korean shit, I would love to try out some of thier expensive stuff.
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Hey I'm back from installing my Shinko rear tire! Glad its on no more procrastinating for me! I got another week 200+ miles out of it, and i must say these tires are very impressive even when you look at the guts of em! The 009 still has a good bit of rubber 2/32's left even after it was smooth! Can't say that for other tires close to this $ range! For the low air pressure track rider i will add this! the 009 which isn't a track tire, came off the bead easier than any other I've changed! I cut thru the baldest spot with a razor knife, (check out how much was left) cut to the bead, side cutter the steel! slip new one on with armoral! 45 min job start to finish now I've been thru it 7 times. I was braggin about my PC the other day on this site, it crashed rite after! power supply I'm almost sure? won't do anything now! Anyone had one do this and not hurt anything else? :beers:
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2500 miles on my 009's. Still love 'em! Barely any where on the rear, just a little rounding of the edges where the tread grooves are. By comparison any tire I have had on in the past would be nearing about half of its life by now.
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Ok I have with a little help from Donna nearly killed the second 009 rear on the b6, this one is still legal but only just and has clocked up 22 thousand K's. I could be possible to sqeeze another 2 thousand K's out of it, but hey now working at the shop, and the xmas police blitzes coming up i'm going to change it. The front 005 with nearly five thousands k's is look good for a 20 to 30 thousand k's, not bad for tyre that sticks like shyte to a blanket. BTW the ZXR is getting a 190/5017 005 on it next week, hate the bridgestone thats on it now
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I just installed a set of Shinko 005s Advance on my 98 Bandit 12. I put the stock size on the front and a 190 on the rear. The profile of the rear tire looks a little flat in the middle but I didn't notice any effects on the handling of my motorcycle. I have about 40 miles on them so far and have layed the bike into some corners and these tires stick very well. My confidence builds everytime I ride! I will keep everyone posted about what kind of milage I get out of them. I just finished up a set of the Battle Ax 020s and got just over 5k out of them. I sure hope these will give me the same milage and it feels like they are a much stickier tire. I do ride pretty hard so it will be interesting to see how the rear holds up. By the way I did not have to move the rear caliper support at all to fit a 190 size tire!! :bigok:
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Well, 2500 miles on my 009's. I am amazed there is virtually no wear on them! Notice in the pic below that the trailing tread groove edges have a slight radius. That is the noticeable wear to these tires.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/chevsuz12/shinko0092500miles1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v244/chevsuz12/shinko0092500miles.jpg)
I took my bike for a short ride a last weekend, the temp was about 40°F, snow melting, road salty and wet. I pulled the bike out of my driveway rev'd it up dumped the clutch intending to do a burnout, and instead she rared up on a wheelie! I was impressed!
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Your not telling me anything i don't know!!! These tires are the best tires for the $$ i've used yet!! My 009 front has over 8k on it and it looks like it will go another 8, the rear's will go 7500 where all others i've used was scary bald @ 5k!! Hope they aren't watching these post's they will up the price.... :motorsmile: :beers:
HEY chevsuz12 How hard was it too remove the powder coat and polish your wheels and would you still do it, if you had to do it over again? :bigok:
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HEY chevsuz12 How hard was it too remove the powder coat and polish your wheels and would you still do it, if you had to do it over again? :bigok:
Super easy, and I would definately do it again! See my post here: http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=4003
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Ok heres my new record, :bigok: out of the shinko 009 on the b6, 25,000 ks
not legal, but not bare either.
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Christ Mick, you're making it hard for me NOT to try these on the B12. Ok you've convinced me, when the Metzlers wear out (about another 5000km on the rear and shyte loads more on the front) I'm fitting the Shinkos. Maybe a 009 on the rear and a 005 on the front - I like a softer front tyre.
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Okay guys.... you got another one to bite. Ordered the 005 front and 009 rear tonight - delivered for less than $160!!! I hope they perform as hyped and you can be sure I'll post my opinion after I "test" them out. :motorsmile:
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Hey, Daytona!
Just looked at your link for your bike pic. That is one major chicken strip you've got there. :shock: You must work on laying that bike over! :beers:
What's funny is when I had the BT10/14's on I had about 1/16" chicken strip on the rear and about 3/4" on the front. With the 009's I barely have about 1/4" on each. So there is definately a different profile with these tires.
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Yep! I know what you are saying. This one is a 190 and is even worse than the 180 for looking new where the strips are and worn out in the middle. Good old flat, straight FL for ya.. The left side looks a bit better. I hear you folks talking rides in the hills, canyons, twisties etc. Down here where i ride every day i work on my bike's (home from work tonight1 am with a long sleeve shirt) i can't seem to find anyone to chum with! I'll work on it though! and btway these tires are worth a try, 005 front 009 for the rear.. My 009 front is on its second rear and still has 5/32,s in the middle! :banana: :beers:
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With the rear 005 on the Rex, now with 6 thousand k's on it I can say yes it grips, sure as hell grips. 130hp sure gives it a hard time, it has only let loose once under extreme torment mind you, its just over half way worn. Its had to deal with, yes me, but some pretty extreme heat, and we all know that heat is the single biggest factor, next to me off course, in the distruction and wear of tyres. So, I guess I'm happy so far, but I think I'll try the 009 rear next time round. Kinda used to getting around 25 thousand k's outta 009's on the B6.
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Hey if you like changing tires in sets get the 005 front with the 009 rear! Almost 9k miles and 2 rears and the 009 front is still @ 4/5 32nds!!! No cupping never slips like most cheaper tires, or even some not tooo cheap! I've worn out.. ! :roll: :duh: :monkeymoon: :stickpoke: :crackattack: :motorsmile: :beers:
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Hey any one know what is going on with the Shinko price? These folk http://store.azmusa.com/shink.html have gone up $40 or so just like that per tire! They got the word and are getting greedy. Oil can't be blamed 4 that kind of inc!
:monkeymoon: :monkeymoon: :stickpoke: :stickpoke: :boohoo:
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Whoa... this is strange...
Same place... same tires... 2 different prices:
http://www.ridenowonline.com/product_detail.aspx?item_guid=d6eafa8c-cb18-4408-bbc3-6b30c93178fb
http://store.azmusa.com/shink-005.html
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I think the more expensive page you looked at doesn't reflect the sale price they have going... if you probably ordered them you'd get the cheaper price.
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="PaulVS"]I think the more expensive page you looked at doesn't reflect the sale price they have going... if you probably ordered them you'd get the cheaper price.
Whew!!! :duh: Yep i guess i jumped the gun. I was going to order a set 120/190's but? maybe bigger was better? a 200 for the rear. The 006 is the step up with a 200 offered but i need all the wear resistance i can get for this behemoth! How are your 006's holding up? Wear wise? :beers:
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="PaulVS"]I think the more expensive page you looked at doesn't reflect the sale price they have going... if you probably ordered them you'd get the cheaper price.
Whew!!! :duh: Yep i guess i jumped the gun. I was going to order a set 120/190's but? maybe bigger was better? a 200 for the rear. The 006 is the step up with a 200 offered but i need all the wear resistance i can get for this behemoth! How are your 006's holding up? Wear wise? :beers:
I'm pretty easy on tires... I want grippy tires so I can be confident... not because I'm a great sport-rider. That being said, I have about 1000 miles on them and they show almost no wear yet. I am 100% satisfied with them... but if they don't last 4000 miles I'll probably go to the Metz Z6 or Pirelli Strada next.
I don't think you can even mount a 200 tire on the rear, can you :?:
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="PaulVS"]I'm pretty easy on tires... I want grippy tires so I can be confident... not because I'm a great sport-rider. That being said, I have about 1000 miles on them and they show almost no wear yet. I am 100% satisfied with them... but if they don't last 4000 miles I'll probably go to the Metz Z6 or Pirelli Strada next.
I don't think you can even mount a 200 tire on the rear, can you :?:
Yep with no prob. The 200 003 dimpled slick is what most use for the 1/4 on the busa! The Bigger is better syndrome!!!! :duh: I'll just stay with the 009's if they work as good on this one as they did on the Bandit whats not to like! Keep up the posts on how they treat ya! :beers: :bigok: :motorsmile:
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The boys down under have had this brand around for a while and I guess they've been on US tracks for a bit. Haven't heard any flaming negatives on 'em. Maybe some of the Oz/NZ riders will speak up with more info.
I know this thread might'nt be relevant anymore, but I had a new shinko front on my k1 12s (scrubbed it in on my test ride), 4000k later the front end was a real mess (heavy bars, shocking wobble on it's side, TANKSLAPPERS EVERYWHERE. Checked everything but it all came down to the rubber, put a Pilot on & it's like a new bike.
They were fine to start with, fine in the wet, but I certainly wouldn't go back to them, maybe recommend them if I was certain it was just a fluke.
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="Dundee"]The boys down under have had this brand around for a while and I guess they've been on US tracks for a bit. Haven't heard any flaming negatives on 'em. Maybe some of the Oz/NZ riders will speak up with more info.
I know this thread might'nt be relevant anymore, but I had a new shinko front on my k1 12s (scrubbed it in on my test ride), 4000k later the front end was a real mess (heavy bars, shocking wobble on it's side, TANKSLAPPERS EVERYWHERE. Checked everything but it all came down to the rubber, put a Pilot on & it's like a new bike.
They were fine to start with, fine in the wet, but I certainly wouldn't go back to them, maybe recommend them if I was certain it was just a fluke.
What type 009's 005's podiums? My 009 front started to feather on the L-side because we ride on the R. I bumped the psi to 42 and smooth till i traded her for the Busa. It had 10k on it and mated to the 2nd rear! still smooth and ready for the third rear!!!! You must have let the psi get away from ya? :roll: :beers: :beers: :bigok:
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42 psi???!!!
gee man thats scary. no I check the pressures constantly. running everywhere between 32-36, even 38 didnt help. was just a bad hoop, hopefully one-off.
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after considering the slight tone of your post, I thought I better clarify (& I was out the door as i was posting). I was very careful to say I had no problems with the performance of the tyre, and they are cheap (though I didnt pay for them). Only the fact it was a bad individual tyre. There are a couple of other posts by others mentioning the same thing. I've just arrived here so maybe it's not fair to make judgement on how I maintain my bikes when u dont know. I check pressures average 4-5 times a week so that wasn't the issue. When the front feels like it's running about 10psi (seriously), shakes when on its side and starts a violent slap with hands on the bars over about 50km/h, I feel i'm free to express the experience.
If people are looking for info, they should be able to compare all opinions without bias. I also said I would recommend the shinkos on price, maybe not on performance, but the above was my truthful experience with them so let people make up their own minds, without questioning others unfairly.
sorry to be long winded :motorsmile:
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Does my reply sound like I'm scolding you sorry? But Dude! all I'm saying is this is out of character for these, the 009's anyway! What # tire did you have? I have only owned the 009's and as far as the 42 psi!!! that is what the tire MFG suggests!!! Has nothing to do with the bike PSI tag. The tire is what we are talking here. this is a sport/commute tire, the sport tire maybe crap! Now i will say 4k before it turned to junk!!! I had a set of sporty Mich that went to heck @ 2k and was in the pile @ 3k! The thing is you don't get what you pay for with over priced M/C tires. fosters 4 :beers:
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I just replaced my 009 Raven rear tire at 8,000 plus miles. I likely could have gone longer but some cord was showing in the rain groove (center of tire) and didn't want to push it any farther. I replaced it with.... yup - another 009. I considered trying some other brands but the price (even with the newly established sales tax) just couldn't be beat.
My front tire (005 Advance) has over 10,000 miles on it. It is definitely cupped and worn but there is still tread left. I have developed a bad (hands off bars) head shake at the the usual 40 - 50 mph but nothing unmanageable and it is still rock steady above and below those speeds. I have an Avon front (1,400 miles) to put on in it's place but I may consider the 009 Raven front in the future.
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Wow PDG stuff! But with 10k on the 005 even though i was happy with the stick of the 009 why bother? These tires ROCK! As soon as my Bridg rock's get down a bit and that looks like in less than 5k on this bike, the 005's with a 200 for the rear is going on! Anyone got a report of miles on the 005 rear?? :beers: :bigok: :motorsmile:
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I'd consider the 009 front because there is a totally different tread pattern - one that doesn't criss-cross over the centerline of the tire.
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Ok i heard some one say they didn't like that! How about the 005 for a rear? They don't make the 200 in the 009 and i want one! Bigger is better maybe not but! Or i was going for the almost slick one. On the Busa got any comments? :beers: :beers: :thanks: :bigok:
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Does my reply sound like I'm scolding you sorry? But Dude! all I'm saying is this is out of character for these, the 009's anyway! What # tire did you have? I have only owned the 009's and as far as the 42 psi!!! that is what the tire MFG suggests!!! Has nothing to do with the bike PSI tag. The tire is what we are talking here. this is a sport/commute tire, the sport tire maybe crap! Now i will say 4k before it turned to junk!!! I had a set of sporty Mich that went to heck @ 2k and was in the pile @ 3k! The thing is you don't get what you pay for with over priced M/C tires. fosters 4 :beers:
Forget what the bike manufacture says, the people who make the tyre are the ones you should be listening to. There was a bloke running around Melb some 12 months or so ago. Claiming shinko tyres where total crap, and bad mouthing the shop who sold them to him. He was using the 003 front and rear on a gsx14. Problem being he would only run 28 psi, and yet time and time agin he was told run 40 front minimum and 42 rear. And then wanted new tyre replacement when they wore out real quick. :duh:
And this is the type of guy you yanks send to us. :stickpoke:
I've been running the 005 rear on the rex, great stick, and am on the 2nd now but having been used to the mileage I get from the 009's on the B6 I'll be happy to give up a little warm up time for an extra couple of thousand miles. Hey we get 200's in 005's and 003's
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="B6mick"]Does my reply sound like I'm scolding you sorry? But Dude! all I'm saying is this is out of character for these, you don't get what you pay for with over priced M/C tires. fosters 4 :beers: Forget what the bike manufacture says, the people who make the tyre are the ones you should be listening to. :duh:
And this is the type of guy you yanks send to us. :stickpoke:
I've been running the 005 rear on the rex, great stick, and am on the 2nd now but having been used to the mileage I get from the 009's on the B6 I'll be happy to give up a little warm up time for an extra couple of thousand miles. Hey we get 200's in 005's and 003's
Hey Mick! Did Nicky or Ben stop over? :stickpoke: Mat decided to stay 4 a few Million more paydays. That guy is awesome!!! Hey spot on with the tire stuff. :beers: :beers:
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Hey Bandit buds!!! Is my PC on the way out? Has my son MY-SPACED it out???? I can't pull up things like this today?? Let me know please>>> http://www.ridenowonline.com/product_detail.aspx?item_guid=d6eafa8c-cb18-4408-bbc3-6b30c93178fb Ok just a bit slow!!! :shock: :bigok:
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Got my order from Ride Now Just like they said! Tax sucks but is still way ahead of any deal from shops or ??? Dennis Kirk needs to get a grip or close the doors!!! Geez!!! I got another set of the 009's 190 & 120 for the Busa!!! I know what you are sayin! That stinko lovin fool!!! Those are W rated!!! But i find out that the speed rating is kinda fickle! The W or Z speed rating is up to the MFG. I will never go that fast even though i have had it to 10 under, the "W" which this bike does like the Bandit does 100!!! Will keep up the post on these! The rear on my Busa will B smooth in about1500 more miles, 5K (got more than i figed) stock Bridges.. Busa 5lbs more than the Bandit (DRY) Just around 70 + HP. I want 009's on when i go to the twisties in N.C. in Oct! I know they will do all i expect, and piss Rob off!!!! :stickpoke:
In laboratory tests that relate directly to highway speeds.
Reminder: Actual tire speed and performance capability depends on factors such as inflation pressure, load, tire condition, wear and driving conditions.
** Although no upper limit speed is specified here, the indicated tires nonetheless have limited rated speed capability. Call 1-800-367-3872 for a referral for more technical information.
*** Any tire with a speed capability above 149 mph (240 kph) can, at the tire manufacturer's option, include a "Z" in the size designation (120/70ZR17). If a service description IS NOT included, the tire manufacturer must be consulted for the maximum speed capability. If a service description is included with the size description, the speed capability is limited by the speed symbol in the service description.
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Hey a alt to Ridnow with their tax crap on shinko's or other brands!!! Yea Na???
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I have been running the Shinko 005 Advance radials for around 3k miles so far. I really like these tires as far as performance, my only complaint is that the rear tire has too flat of a profile. This gives you about a 3 inch wide contact patch when driving straight down the road but when you lean into the turns the bike really falls over quickly. This takes some getting used to. The way the tire is shaped your contact patch is very small when your layed over in the turns. I would not recommend these tires for a track day bike. I have seen the 003 stealth at a local shop and they appear to have a much more normal profile with the center of the tread on a good apex like the pilot powers.
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Hi Guys, I just put 900 miles on a 009 rear Labor Day weekend in PA and NY. About 450 of them in the wet. No problems at all and it still looks like new. Had it at a ton in the rain (PA turnpike, yeehaa) and solid as a rock. Putting the front 009 on this week. Love my Bandit :banana:
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I just ordered a set of 009s last night. Im still wondering about them but for a $150 a set shipped, Its more than worth a shot. The flat profile bothers me, but it cant be any worse in a lean than these squared-off battlax's.
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I just ordered a set of 009s last night. Im still wondering about them but for a $150 a set shipped, Its more than worth a shot. The flat profile bothers me, but it cant be any worse in a lean than these squared-off battlax's.
He said the 005's had a flat profile, not the 009's.
I have the 005's and love 'em.... haven't noticed a flat profile myself. What are you running your pressure at?
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="GSFStiny"]I just ordered a set of 009s last night. Im still wondering about them but for a $150 a set shipped, Its more than worth a shot. The flat profile bothers me, but it cant be any worse in a lean than these squared-off battlax's.
He was using a 190 on the 5.5 " Bandit wheel. These tires are the widest i have ever used. True to size not like some. A 190 is bigger than a 180. :beers: :beers: :bigok: :congrats:
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I reread and he was talking about the 005s being too flat. D'oh. Im going to get them mounted and scrubbed in friday, and do a little roadtest saturday evening. Even with the crap-o originals my chicken strips are about 1/8", both sides, so Im pretty stoked to see how the shinkos compare. If I dont like them they'll prolly be toast before the weather starts warming up again anyway.
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The only tire that has a flat profile is the rear. The front one has a normal profile. Its really not a problem unless you were planning on thrashing your bike on a track day where your leaning way over. Then you would have reduced traction due to the smaller contact patch area.
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="GSFStiny"]I reread and he was talking about the 005s being too flat. D'oh. Im going to get them mounted and scrubbed in friday, and do a little roadtest saturday evening. Even with the crap-o originals my chicken strips are about 1/8", both sides, so Im pretty stoked to see how the shinkos compare. If I dont like them they'll prolly be toast before the weather starts warming up again anyway.
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quote] Well? :?:
Its a saga as usual. Ridenow sent me the wrong #$%^& tire. I got a 009 front and an 003 rear. So, they sent me a shipping label and I returned the bastard, but they wont send my *right* tire until they get the *wrong* tire back. So Ill be running on the wear bars for probably 2 more weeks (including a possible 600 mile weekend this weekend). Ugh. :roll:
On a more positive note, I went ahead and got the front put on. So far Im pretty impressed. It was balanced right out of the box, no weights needed. I put about 200 miles on it over the weekend, and its pretty good thus far. I cant really comment on the stickiness yet, but grip is at least as good as the stock battlax, if not better. I rode home in the rain last night and it felt nice. Seems like the bike is really willing to fall into a lean and stay there, much more so than the battlax. Naturally this comes at the price of some straight line stability, but overall its good in all conditions. No shakes or other scary mischief at a sustained 110, So it looks promising. More once I actually get the rear and get it scrubbed in.
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GSFStiny that just sucks! The first time i ordered from them they were out of the 009's but kept me hanging for a few weeks. Bad enough, but to send the wrong one thinkin you would just keep it sucks. You will be very pleased with them both after you get em on. I bet even the hi speed stability will also impress you! :beers: :motorsmile:
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Well, I finally got my 009 rear and got it mounted last thursday. To say the least it got a trial by fire. Its first ride was a 150 mile interstate jaunt in pouring rain. The first few miles were, ahem, a character building experience, but after that it felt surprisingly good for a new tire in the rain. Thus far I have almost 900 miles on the front (damn Ive been riding alot) and I put about 600 on the rear over the weekend. Im still getting used to the handling characteristics, but thus far Im pleased. They take a while to warm up, at least 4 or 5 miles, but once warm they seem to grip fairly well. Im not ready to bow down and sing praises to the shinko gods just yet, but I plan on hitting some hardcore twisties before work tomorrow, so Ill know for sure. I still have about 3/4 " chicken strips left (as opposed to about 1/8" with the stockers) even though ive been dragging boots in hard turns. More tomrrow when after I go out and hammer on it a bit.
Oh BTW Daytona, they feel pretty sweet at high speed, took them to about 120 this weekend and aside from the scaryass stock springs it felt really good.
*edit*--Felt great in the twisties, but I could feel the limit coming. If it starts to bother me Ill drop the pressure a little and see if it helps any. Right now Im at ~36 ish psi front and 38 in the rear. They show no wear whatsoever after the the first 1k. With any luck Theyll last til summer, then Im going to mount some grippy tires because I hope to get down to the dragon as well as ride in the national GS convention here in WV next year. The gummies will be toast before august. :lol:
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WELL? You are out riding i hope and not stuck inside with the heat on! Anyway keep up the opinions on the stinko's. :beers:
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I'm just about done with my second Shinko 009 Raven rear tire. I took it off so I could have fresh rubber on an upcoming trip (lots of twisties - drool). Once I get back, I'll put the Shinko back on since there is more tread left in spite of the flat spot. Current mileage - 8,300 of hard riding... this baby hasn't been babied. I'll post up the final mileage when it's totally used up.
BTW.... Shinko's totally rock - get you some!!!! :beers:
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ridenow.com has some shinko's on clearance. They also have some dunlop 205's..??...may be older rubber but as long as it hasn't been in the sun, its worth the $30 bucks
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Just 4 the h of it a 190 stinko is the same size as a 200 bridg BT014. The 200 is a whopper in a stinko. I hope they aren't made in the wrong Korea!!! :duh: :beers:
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Some say the 190 tire will fit on the B12 with no additional, other than just mounting it! I found I had to move the rear caliper brace out board of the bracket on the swing arm. (Fwd Brace only) Just unbolt move out on the 2 tabs and rebolt The 190 Shinko is as wide as any other's 200! The 5.5" rim is the min width they say can be used. I think it makes it wear in the middle a bit more than the 180 but only if you run the psi they say is max. U won't be anything but happy with it they rock! The 009's are the only ones I've used. Got 8K miles from em!!! :beers: :beers: :bigok:
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Yes i have heard of that from some!! What type was he running? You know if the tires controlled all that? :stickpoke: Rossi wouldn't have done that graceful low side that handed Nicky the crown!! Go" U S A" If you don't think they are for you "Don't get em"!! I tried em cause the others were breakin me with the cost and crappy miles B4 they were smooth. If you are The King or Queen of the canyon carvers and just do the occasional 200 mile ride, by all means get the Hi $$ stuff!! After all like myself Rossi can't afford the best. The 009 Ravens Rock!! Dry, Wet, and will do it for over 8K on the rear. That's what I'm talkin about!! :beers:
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Mine are yet to 'let go' but there has been a time or two that Ive felt the limit coming. Granted, all the times I can think of I was coming into 10mph curves at 40+, leaned alllmost to the pegs.
Since Im posting anyway, heres my 2500 mile (3k on the front) progress report.
Unfortunately Ive been doing WAY too much commuting and far too little actual riding. Lots of interstate miles and my heavy right wrist has "flattened" the profile of the rear somewhat. Its just starting to square very slightly in the 3 or so inches in the middle. Front tire treadwear is nonexistent. The tread in the rear has just started to round a bit, dont think the depth has worn away at all, except for the slight squaring. Overall, for commuter purposes, Im happy. Good in the dry, good in the wet. Not great. Good.
Now, lately my initial love for them has been....fading. I just dont like the way they feel in a lean. The grip is there, it just feels scary. I dont know if its because of the squaring, or not. But something feels different. At first Im inclined to think its me, but I have a sneaky suspicion its not. The bike had the stock battlax's on it when I got it, and the PO had squared them to hell, and they didnt feel anything like this. I actually have a day off (*gasp*) this week so I plan on going to play in a big parking lot to see what I can see see see.
More on this story as it develops..... :motorsmile:
oh BTW, 009s front and rear.
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Hey GSFstiny keep up the posts on these, good or bad you seem to be able to give em the all points test. But 3K and starting to act funny! I had a pair of Mets that was so thin on the rear I could see air thru it @ 3K :duh: Hey don't be tryin the twisties other than straight anyway! Who was that Cheech or Chong? :motorsmile: (http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid210/p34e025ceebc9357cf48fa01aef16dd57/eded45cf.jpg)
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Heh...I live in WV, theres no such thing as a straight road. :banana: :grin:
If it stops snowing Ill conduct my parking lot tests tomorrow.
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The 009's are a great value in so many respects but they do have their limitations. You do need to get them fully warmed to achieve maximum grip - max grip for those tires. They can be slick when cold and below 50 degrees they take quite a while to warm up.
Having just roasted and toasted an Avon Viper Sport (1,923 freeking miles) I was impressed by the stick but not by the longevity. Trouble is, the stick is addictive and will make you push the 009 further than I'm comfortable with.
Use the 009's for what they are - a great long-lasting tire with decent grip. I put the old 009 back on - nearing 9,000 miles on it too. It has made a good case for being my next new rear tire...... for the third time.
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Hey get some info on what they plan. But if they are there they have a plan and $ will be going up. I think the 006 or the 005's would be worth a try for you knee draggers? They take much less time to get warm. The over priced boys are comin down too so its a win win deal! One less corp jet or yacht for a bit better deal for the consumer! :beers: :motorsmile:
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Hey GSFstiny i meant Chong straight! Like up in smoke. :toocool: Ok rub it in about the twisty roads in your area :roll: I had two curves worth scrubbin some chicken strips off the tires, within 50 miles of me. They would have Leo's at both end just waiting! Now there is a subdivision road in the middle of one so the stop light screws that up. By the time i ride up to your realm my 009's are good and warm! :bigok:
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lol! Weve got some sweet ones. Might as well have a nice slow cruise through deal's gap on the way too. :bigok:
They way the 009s wear you could ride up, ride for a week and ride back and barely show any wear at all.
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Did some riding today, and the changing profile in the rear is definitely affecting things. I did the standard msf-style parking lot run, quick stops, slow circles, figure 8s, etc etc. At low, low speeds (in above situations) they feel fine, however I do need to take the ERC, Im not quite happy with my technique.
Anyway, I hit some nice county road twisties, but I didnt cut my chicken strips below my commuters half inch. :crybaby: Just too much crap on the road to push harder. As long as I took it easy, everything was fine. When I got up in the powerband, the grip was there, but the stability wasnt. Tight, slow turns just felt...shaky. I also noticed it took alot more effort to bring it in to turns. So much so that by the end of a 110 mile ride (about 75 of them on twisty roads) my shoulders were actually tired. I was ready to get off.
All in all, Im not sure Ill run these again. Its not an issue of tire quality, and it sure as hell isnt an issue of wear characteristics or price. Its just preference, thats all. For commuters, I think theyd be great. Especially for $150 a set. Ill try some others, and if I dont like my results, Ill try another set from the peninsula. :motorsmile:
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Okay boys and girls.... the numbers are in. I just replaced my 009 Raven after a total of 9,744 HARD miles and it still wasn't showing cord. Granted I wouldn't have wanted to ride on wet roads the last 500-800 miles but this was one helluva tire.
I recently used up an Avon Viper Sport in 1,927 miles (nearly twice the price of the Shinko) and I loved the stick but not the longevity. I'm now going to try the Shinko 005 Advance and would be thrilled to get 5,000 miles with more grip than the Raven.
I may go back to the Raven at some point but grippy tires are really fun - I just can't afford using up ten in a year.
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Now that's a review! :beers: to both of you! I just put a Raven 190 on my Bandit on steroids! They are the same width as the 200 BT014 i took off. I love the ride of these. No weights and smooth as silk up to 155. (the speed limit on I95 these days)
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BTW I got 5480 miles on the OEM BT56 rear and after i cut it off it still had 1/16" of rubber at smoothest spot. Great tire but F & Rear stinko's to your door with a nice dinner at Taco spew for the same cost as the rear! That's what I'm sayin. I'll keep ya posted on how it does on this bike. :bigok:
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No weights and smooth as silk up to 155. (the speed limit on I95 these days) [/b][/color]
lol, damnit, they must be cracking down everywhere.... :banana:
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Hey i maybe crazy but the other day i got caught in that just drizzly with the roads slick as snot black ice hasn't rained for a while slick road! You know! So thought i would try the grip of the stinko rear. Stuck like glue. Hit it in 4th from about 40 stuck, down to 3rd and just stuck and went until the rpm hit abour 6k then it started to slip. But thats hookin about 145 HP to the rd. I say stinko's rock even on a Busa!
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Im late to this party but the review has solidified my ordering of the Shinko 009's today. WIll let you know how I like them. proally work out great for me as Im in Kansas and only get to take the occansional trips to te twisties.
BTW I got them for 154.88 shipped. stock sizes.
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Latest report on the 009 Raven I mounted on my rear wheel back @ the end of 06. A few miles short of 5k on it, and a recent trip to Wolf pen Suches valley GA area and back its still not anywhere close to the wear bars. Estimate another 3k? The OEM Bridgstone BT056 front is about to be changed at the same time. Riding in crooked road country I found it rock solid! except for the gravel streams that seemed to fall out of what ever was carrying it only in the tightest corners, the ars puckering roll over em, slip, grab was reported by all I rode with. I'm sure there are some that can eat these up faster! I got over 5k on the OEM rear, some Busa riders get less than 3K. They still rock IMO. I got another set ready to mount. :motorsmile:
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I just ordered my Shinko 009s (front and rear) for my '02 B6. Should be here on Fri/Sat!
Considering I'm replacing my stock tires after the first 5 years/10k miles...
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Hey i maybe crazy but the other day i got caught in that just drizzly with the roads slick as snot black ice hasn't rained for a while slick road! You know! So thought i would try the grip of the stinko rear. Stuck like glue. Hit it in 4th from about 40 stuck, down to 3rd and just stuck and went until the rpm hit abour 6k then it started to slip. But thats hookin about 145 HP to the rd. I say stinko's rock even on a Busa!
Your 100% right there, Ive been using the 005's on the rear of the REX, But this time round I've tried the 009, awesome, and with the 005 on the front just like the B6 it even turns in. :bandit: "Shinko" :wink: the best find , I've had in 30 odd years in motorcyling
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Honeymoon's over guys...... Looks like Shinko caught on or the price of oil caught up. Best deal on Shinko 009 I can find is $117.00 before shipping and taxes - up from $89.00 :rant2: :rant2: :rant2:
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Iron Pony still has em for $97.00 + $10.00 for shipping! But yes they have crept up on us! Well I have used my share of em! maxxis Supermax is next in line IMO. I'll be lucky to get 2K out of these Dunlop Q's I just mounted!
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Awesome!!!! Thanks for the heads up. The website shows 89 bucks for the 180 series..... now that's what I'm talking about!!!!! :thanks: :thanks:
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Awesome!!!! Thanks for the heads up. The website shows 89 bucks for the 180 series..... now that's what I'm talking about!!!!! :thanks: :thanks:
Hey whats a Bandit Bud 4! Those are great folks too! fast shippin and unless you are in Ohio? No tax! Unlike Ridenow which is the next in line on price. They too went up, the 190 which my bandit uses was $87.00 just a month ago.
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Thanks for the tip Daytona.
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About 3000 miles on mine... no visible signs of wear.
Again, I'm pretty easy on tires.
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Pretty good deal here on the Shinko Advance 005 (set)
Shinko 005 - Ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Shinko-005-Motorcycle-Tire-Set-NEW-120-70-17-180-55-17_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35601QQihZ020QQitemZ300206640974QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW)
(The 005's are more expensive than the 009's)
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I am on my 2nd front, and 3rd rear SHINKO. I LOVE THEM!! Easily get 6000 plus miles out of them. Incredible traction, even on wet, salt, and snow and icy roads (all of these at once, Gotta love the Chicago area!)
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Current mileage - 8,300 of hard riding... this baby hasn't been babied.
When you say "hard riding" what exactly do you mean?
A lot of leaned over twisty riding or mostly highway?
I don't know of a tire with enough grip that will last 8,000 miles.
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Current mileage - 8,300 of hard riding... this baby hasn't been babied.
When you say "hard riding" what exactly do you mean?
A lot of leaned over twisty riding or mostly highway?
I don't know of a tire with enough grip that will last 8,000 miles.
Yea its me! I still don't own stock in em either! They stick better than alot of the claimed sticker's. But the $$ is moving up for US anyway! Our own fault our dollar ain't worth squat anymore. I'm tryin the storms for now. 129.00 + shipping. for a 190.
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I would describe "hard-riding" as a combination of corner carving with lots of straight-line acceleration and the occasional front end lift. Pretty much anything goes with the exception of burn-outs... YMMV
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Seriously?! You guys are STILL talking about these Shinkos exactly 3 years after my first post?
Holy cheap rubber Batman!
Sorry for the overreaction, but I'm amazed the Shinko's have caused this much discussion.
If anyone cares, I bought a set of 009's shortly after posting that first message, way back on page 1.
I've since then put about 8,500 miles on them of what I'd consider fairly normal riding, with some rough stuff thrown in.
There's something wrong with the front tire on my Bandit, it seems floating up off the pavement. :shock:
Anyway, I love these tires and will be getting a set of 005's very soon.
Cheers to everyone riding (cheaply) on Shinko rubber!
Elmojo
P.S.: www.ridenow.com is still listing the 005 front for $59.99 and the 005 rear for $89.99, plus ~$20 for shipping, which I *think* is a bit cheaper than Iron Pony.
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Hey, we're Bandit riders... we ENJOY getting the most bang for the buck/quid/whatever your currency is... :bandit:
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Ok here's my question...........
I have about 1/16 of an inch of chicken strip on my rear tire.....can you lean that far with these Stinko 009's WITHOUT them breaking loose on you??
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You will discover the 009 gets rid of chicken strips pretty easily.... the tire profile puts you closer to the edge with less lean angle than other sport tires - keeping in mind this tire is more touring oriented. With that said, I've never had any issues with the tire breaking loose under prudent use of the throttle.... YMMV and all bets are off if there's gravel or sand on the road surface. Ride Safe.
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Well, I've only got 6K easy miles on my OEM Macadams — but a big ol' bolt sticking out of my rear tire means time for a replacement. I'm trusting that this many Banditos saying good things aren't going to lead me astray — so I'll be ordering a Raven 009 tomorrow. (Much pricier at the local dealer than online, but I'd rather keep the money local and build goodwill with the guys who'll do my other service.)
Wish me luck!
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— but a big ol' bolt sticking out of my rear tire means time for a replacement.
Just picked up a roofing nail in my 009....... after a whopping 600 (six-hundred) miles. :rant2:
That's only my 4th or 5th Raven... guess I'll be getting another one.
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Chicken strips, errrrrrrrr what chicken strips. None here. On the B6 or the ZRX. :thumb:
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Tires unlimited has the Shinko, now...
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/Shinko_tires.htm
Looks like $160 or so, without shipping, for a set of the 009 for a 1200.
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Az motorsports has the same set, in stock B12 sizes for $135, without shipping. SOunds like a deal...
Before ordering anything from Arizona Motorsports, you should read this thread.
http://www.fireblades.org/forums/vendor-seller-dealer-reviews/1829-arizona-motorsports-group.html
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I got my back Raven 009 for $99 shipped from an Ohio-based eBay Store, and was very happy with their customer service and fast shipping. So far, I've only run a 120-mile highway trip, but I did plenty of weaving in my lane when no one was around, trying to get enough lean to scrub the tires closer to the edges. No complaints so far. :motorsmile:
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Before ordering anything from Arizona Motorsports, you should read this thread.
http://www.fireblades.org/forums/vendor-seller-dealer-reviews/1829-arizona-motorsports-group.html
That review is back in 2003. I have had zero problems on about 10 orders I've placed with them in the last 4 years.... including the set of Shinko's I presently have mounted.
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Before ordering anything from Arizona Motorsports, you should read this thread.
http://www.fireblades.org/forums/vendor-seller-dealer-reviews/1829-arizona-motorsports-group.html
That review is back in 2003. I have had zero problems on about 10 orders I've placed with them in the last 4 years.... including the set of Shinko's I presently have mounted.
Thanks for letting me know they have changed their "tune"
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yes resurecting the dead! They still rock but I'm sold on the Avon Storms now. Stinko's stirred the tire world for M/C
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Got a podium for a winter tire, holding up nicely, still will replace with mic R2 when it warms up again.
Mark
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I see that the walls of the 009 are really high! Anyone had any issues braking loose?? It is a definite turn down!!!! The 005 looks good but I want the long tread life. I guess beggars can't be choosers! so back to the question... braking loose??? any issues???
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That is for sure! one won't fit all! For the $$ the 009 Raven will do it all well but it rocks for straight, long life (next to the Avon st) I thing you would like the 006 or the 005's! lasts longer than any sport tire and will corner with em to for half the cost.
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005's it is!!
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I've had the 005's for a couple years now, they look great, and I'm pretty sure they exceed the handling capabilities of the Bandit.
I KNOW they exceed MY abilities. :grin:
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and from what i understand the ware is minimal on the 005's as well? close to the 5k miles range?
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Anybody run the podium? I got one for winter season cheap, seems to be holding up well. Too cold (roads) to realy lean it over yet. Also did anyone else have to adjust the preload when runnig a rear shinko tires? Seems a bit smaller in radius compaired to my Conti RA that came off.
Mark
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My only problem with the shinko 005 front, is now that the front end works properly and remains in alignment over bumps ( thanks to my home made fork brace) is that i'm so happy i'm pushing the front to the limit, I'm shagging the sides off the front tyre, well before I wear the centre down on the 009 rear, I need something in between a 005 front and a 009 front.
And yet with the price increases of late, I'm still buying a 009 rear and a 005 fitted, ( At shop rates ) cheaper than some blokes pay for a rear, of another brand that don't last :banghead:
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The last two 005 rears netted about 3500 miles each for me. I still prefer the 009 for general commuting and the Pilot Power for twisty trips.
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Hey guys ! Long time no see ! Gonna change both tires as soon as the spring is here (or as soon as I get the bike out even if there's a little snow remaining :) )
I wanted to know if you guys knew of any good online sites to get good tires for cheap...
The best local deal I found is on a set of Michelin Road 2 for 408 $ taxes and installation on bike included.
But the same guy will install tires on the bike for 55$ plus taxes...so I figured if I can find a set of tire under 345 $ including taxes and shipping it would come up even....
I read about the Shinkos but can't find a store that will ship them here (Montreal, QC) and still keep the price under 345 $
After all...I'm not gonna go through the trouble of getting them online and Shinkos instead of Michelins to save 20 $
So it would have to be a good deal...
Where do you fellow Canadians get your tires from ?
Thanks !
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The best local deal I found is on a set of Michelin Road 2 for 408 $ taxes and installation on bike included.
Anytime I found a full set of tires, installed, WITHOUT TAXES for under $450 CAN, I bought them. My last rear only (an nail problem) for a 160 Dunlop Qualifier, prices were from $270-340 PLUS installation & taxes.
I have looked at getting tires shipped in from Dennis Kirk and others, but with our poor Canadian $, UPS Shipping, duty and customs, landed costs almost double compared to US dollars shipped to the Continental US.
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Thanks for the reply !
So, basically, you're saying it's a good deal and I should go for it ?
<--------- The picture is back ! Yeah !
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A guy who has a Bandit in Toronto sent me this link http://www.petes-superbike.com/en/accueil/ $167 rear and $135 for front for pilot road 2's and he appears to be in Quebec. He ordered tires and is quite happy.
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That's precisely the guy I was to get them from ! :grin:
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Anybody run the podium? I got one for winter season cheap, seems to be holding up well. Too cold (roads) to realy lean it over yet. Also did anyone else have to adjust the preload when runnig a rear shinko tires? Seems a bit smaller in radius compaired to my Conti RA that came off.
Mark
For a while, A worn Shinko 005 I put on the rear to keep an old Metzler Z4 front tire Company gave a very squirrely feel, but that's gone away in a couple of months' riding. Now it gives a very sporting feel and I'm taking street corners leaned way over - something I've never done before. Originally, I thought that I'd have to back off the rear shock's preload (presently on max), but with use, the squirrely feel disappeared. The old Metzler rear gave a very different feel, not wanting to allow the bike to heel over. If this is any indication of how the full Shinko set is going to work, then I can hardly wait to get a new set of Shinko 005's on the 1200. (Paid $175 USD for the new set). Still waiting for rain here in the Tampa Bay area to check out the wet handling of the Shinko 005 rear.
Herb
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As I've mentioned previously, I'm pretty easy on tires these days.
But that doesn't mean I don't know how to ride. :trustme:
If you are a good rider, I believe that the Shinko 005's will do everything that you ask them to do... unless you want a crazy-grip-full-race tire that you will have to swap out every time you fill up with gas.
It's my opinion that if you buy them.... and have issues with them, you either have the tire pressure wrong, serious suspension problems.... or you just aren't very good.
Just my usual $.02
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As I've mentioned previously, I'm pretty easy on tires these days.
But that doesn't mean I don't know how to ride. :trustme:
If you are a good rider, I believe that the Shinko 005's will do everything that you ask them to do... unless you want a crazy-grip-full-race tire that you will have to swap out every time you fill up with gas.
It's my opinion that if you buy them.... and have issues with them, you either have the tire pressure wrong, serious suspension problems.... or you just aren't very good.
Just my usual $.02
That's probably right. Someone here has noted that Metzler Z4's give the Bandit 1200 I see that the walls of the 009 are really high! Anyone had any issues braking loose?? It is a definite turn down!!!! The 005 looks good but I want the long tread life. I guess beggars can't be choosers! so back to the question... braking loose??? any issues???
a 'heavy" feel and I agree with that opinion. This doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the Metzlers when it comes to cornering, while the Shinko 005 has a very "lively" character that starts out as squirreliness but settles down and inspires confidence (or maybe it's me that gets used to their character??). All said, the Shinkos will be giving this rider a lot more fun than the Metzlers did (but must wait for rain to see how Shinkos do in the wet).
Herb
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As I've mentioned previously, I'm pretty easy on tires these days.
But that doesn't mean I don't know how to ride. :trustme:
If you are a good rider, I believe that the Shinko 005's will do everything that you ask them to do... unless you want a crazy-grip-full-race tire that you will have to swap out every time you fill up with gas.
It's my opinion that if you buy them.... and have issues with them, you either have the tire pressure wrong, serious suspension problems.... or you just aren't very good.
Just my usual $.02
+1
But if ya need a full race tyre the shinko 003 fill the bill nicely. :bigok:
But in all honnesty there is only maybe 1% of us, who could really use the preformance of those suckers. But who am I to dag good folk who like to change there tyres at every 10th tank of fuel. :duh:
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well i've finaly put in a order for some 009 rears and 005 front. got them at a killer deal on Motorcycle superstore.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861 (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861)
soo once i get them on and out for a spin i will be back sayin what i think!!!
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well i've finaly put in a order for some 009 rears and 005 front. got them at a killer deal on Motorcycle superstore.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861 (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861)
soo once i get them on and out for a spin i will be back sayin what i think!!!
Pretty good price. The 005's were only $140/set, with free shipping when I bought 'em a couple years ago. But the price you got is about as good as it gets now.
Did they have free shipping on the deal?
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yea i got both and a new helmet for $200 total! and free shipping!!!!
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i got my tires in and will be putting them on sometime this next week i have a lot of other projects to do on my bike as well so i wont be testing them out till later this month... i hope!!!!
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I heard that Yokohama sold their motorcycle tire division to Shinko in Korea. Since this is merely "hearsay", I'll leave it up to your discretion to perform due diligence before buying.
Herb
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I heard that Yokohama sold their motorcycle tire division to Shinko in Korea. Since this is merely "hearsay", I'll leave it up to your discretion to perform due diligence before buying.
Herb
'Tis true. Supposedly Yokohama's m/c tire plant was destroyed in the Tokyo earthquake, so they sold their technology/etc to Shinko.
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I heard that Yokohama sold their motorcycle tire division to Shinko in Korea. Since this is merely "hearsay", I'll leave it up to your discretion to perform due diligence before buying.
Herb
'Tis true. Supposedly Yokohama's m/c tire plant was destroyed in the Tokyo earthquake, so they sold their technology/etc to Shinko.
Hey, thanks for that info! No wonder so many people like the way Shinko tires perform.
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well its been 1k miles since i've put the 009's on and they look great still. and the grip is 100 times better than the bt-45s that were on it before. here are the photo's
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/2948_1155410243328_1169866946_30456807_926251_n.jpg)
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs014.snc1/2948_1155410283329_1169866946_30456808_4023245_n.jpg)
sorry bout the cig smoke... bad habit!
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well i've finaly put in a order for some 009 rears and 005 front. got them at a killer deal on Motorcycle superstore.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861 (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861)
soo once i get them on and out for a spin i will be back sayin what i think!!!
Well... ordered another 009 Raven rear last week from the source above. It arrived today ($102.99 DELIVERED!!!) with a date code of 0909.... ninth week of '09 - I'm talking FRESH, baby!!!! :trustme:
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Hi guys just adding that here in Australia I run shinko 003 front and 005 rear and have done so for three full sets at about 10,000 kms a set. Hot or cold seasons they hang on like sh#t to a shovel. Have tryed other brands but they do not give me the confidence that the shinko do. And at $290 Aust fitted that is a great deal with heaps of grip.
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well i've finaly put in a order for some 009 rears and 005 front. got them at a killer deal on Motorcycle superstore.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861 (http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/292/MANFALLDIV/Shinko-Motorcycle-Tires-Street-Bike.aspx?SiteID=em_Mar_16_Gen1_Shinko&WT.mc_ID=35682&WT.i_e_dcsvid=1464975861)
soo once i get them on and out for a spin i will be back sayin what i think!!!
Pretty good price. The 005's were only $140/set, with free shipping when I bought 'em a couple years ago. But the price you got is about as good as it gets now.
Did they have free shipping on the deal?
Aye! Can't beat this deal with a stick!
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Reading the thread it appears that everybody is putting 005's on the front and 009's on the rear. True? and if so why.
I apoligize if i missed it in the thread .
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I can't speak for everybody but I'll guess they like the mileage the 009 gives them and the grip the 005 gives them and they will wear about the same.
Personally, I don't care for the 005 front at all - and the 005 rear lasts only about what a Pilot Power does so for a cheap commuter tire that can handle some "reasonable" cornering the 009 rear wins hands down.
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yea i get to go up some nice twisty roads up here in the lake tahoe area and i scrape my stock pegs on my '01 B6. sooo no i dont have any complants about grip and no i have no chiken strips on my rear tires and about a 1/4" in the front. i ride the 005 up front with the 009 on back since i mostly comute. im in almost 5k and the tire is starting to show some ware down the center partly due to my wet whillies and shifting down quickly to help slow down but it is still very gripful!!! if thats a word?. psi, on (lots'o) twisties, 30 up front 25 rear, long group rides(little twisties)- 33 frnt 30 rear, comuting 33 frnt 36 rear.
ive been taking photos every 1k and just have been tooo lazy to post them on here. but one day i will. ok now i am going to bounce! boing!!!
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And for the Ozzie riders the 006 is now available....
Which is good news for B6 riders as the 006 front comes in a 110width
Just spotted them at OCD racing in Oakliegh, he using them on the front of his drag bikes.
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Tires unlimited has the Shinko, now...
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/Shinko_tires.htm
Looks like $160 or so, without shipping, for a set of the 009 for a 1200.
(http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/Shinko%20Tires/shinko_Raven009.jpg)
Az motorsports has the same set, in stock B12 sizes for $135, without shipping. SOunds like a deal...
Gyro sez:
Got a set from Western Power Sports, Memphis TN, a few months ago for the same price you paid, shipping included (http://motorcycle.motorcycle-superstore.com/search?p=Q&lbc=motorcyclesuperstore&uid=428289515&ts=custom&w ). Shipping was close to instantaneous! Tire date-code is also new. Wow!
Can't mount them on the B1200 until the well-used rear Shinko goes away. There's still a left-over Metzler MZ-4 holding down the front as well. They seem to get on well together! I'm starting to drag footpegs recently - something I rarely did before.
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for those who think that the shinko's are no good here is a video of me riding my b6 with the 009 rear and 005 frnt scraping pegs all the way up the road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6MCujuf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6MCujuf4)
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for those who think that the shinko's are no good here is a video of me riding my b6 with the 009 rear and 005 frnt scraping pegs all the way up the road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6MCujuf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6MCujuf4)
Dude - that's a kick ass vid. Great road and very well put together. NICE!
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for those who think that the shinko's are no good here is a video of me riding my b6 with the 009 rear and 005 frnt scraping pegs all the way up the road.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6MCujuf4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvQ6MCujuf4)
Dude - that's a kick ass vid. Great road and very well put together. NICE!
+1 Great Vid!
I've always thought that people who think the Shinkos aren't a good enough sport tire for the Bandit have delusions of grandeur. Your video proves it. :grin:
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I put a set of the 009s on about 2 weeks ago and i'm quite happy . I'm not super aggressive so I've still got some chicken strip but they are shrinking. Very confident leaned over and easy to lean. I need to try then in the rain ,if they are good there i'll be really happy.
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I just recently took a Shinko off the rear on my Bandit. A local Dragracer used it at the strip and to commute back and forth to work until he picked up a screw in it. I plugged it and got 4k more miles out of it. Lots of chicken strips left if you want them, the middle is flat. A 190 series was a tight fit but worked for as long as I needed it.
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Wow. After reading this most excellent thread, I ordered a new Raven 09 for my new-to-me Bandit 1250. The Pirelli that was on there was about gone, the front still has plenty left. I don't have it running yet (see my New Bandit thread) but when I do I can't wait to test out the bike with a new Shinko on it!
BTW I paid $102 for it, free shipping from Motorcycle Super Store. :thanks: all you guys for the great reviews!
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An long, old thread, but my two cents worth. I just ordered a Shinko 005 front and 009 back from Chaparral motor sports. The order came to $167.70 total and as far as I know, that is not a sale price.
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Have nearly 1K on the Shinko 009 now and it's ahowing hardly any wear at all, just a little bit of a flat spot you have to look real hard to notice. And no chicken strips, it's nice and smooth all the way out to the edges where my pegs start to touch down.
I'm really happy with this tire so far and I can't see ever paying big bucks for a Pirelli or Michelin again. As long as this Raven holds up the way it has been, I'll be ordering another and a 005 for the front to match.
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On a completely unrelated note.
you have a hot daughter
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/PaulVS/Kelly%20Grad/NewImage9.jpg)
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Hahahahhahah!
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I think I'm gonna get whacked with the ban-hammer ^.^
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Tires unlimited has the Shinko, now...
http://www.tiresunlimited.com/Shinko_tires.htm
Looks like $160 or so, without shipping, for a set of the 009 for a 1200.
(http://www.tiresunlimited.com/images/Shinko%20Tires/shinko_Raven009.jpg)
Az motorsports has the same set, in stock B12 sizes for $135, without shipping. SOunds like a deal...
Gyro sez:
Got a set from Western Power Sports, Memphis TN, a few months ago for the same price you paid, shipping included (http://motorcycle.motorcycle-superstore.com/search?p=Q&lbc=motorcyclesuperstore&uid=428289515&ts=custom&w ). Shipping was close to instantaneous! Tire date-code is also new. Wow!
Can't mount them on the B1200 until the well-used rear Shinko goes away. There's still a left-over Metzler MZ-4 holding down the front as well. They seem to get on well together! I'm starting to drag footpegs recently - something I rarely did before.
Do you have a link for AZ motorsports?? I searched but couldn't find it??
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Do you have a link for AZ motorsports?? I searched but couldn't find it??
They've changed their name to Ride Now Powersports:
http://store.ridenow.com/