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Offline Chi-TownBandit

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poor man's ignition advancer
« on: March 03, 2005, 08:08:19 PM »
Anybody ever try this?  If so, I'd appreciate any input before I attempt surgery on my b6 1996.  Thanks!  It's good to have the board back for some advice!
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Offline Ranger

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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2005, 12:39:07 AM »
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Offline Chi-TownBandit

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2005, 10:42:14 AM »
hey, ranger, thanks for the response!
so, when you enlarged the 3 holes, you made them exactly 5mm wide?  this assumes that i want a 5 degree advance.  after that, you just twisted the plate left or counterclockwise?  Nothing else involved?  Any other advice would be appreciated.   :mrgreen:
I might attempt the experiment this weekend.  Thanks, again!
Erin
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1998 B12 (AKA "Shiraz")
H.S. full exhaust, 5 degree advancer, and Stage II
Progressive front springs and 1100 GSXR shock
Givi 3 bag set up, plus other little sports touring mods

Offline Vee Dub Nut

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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2005, 09:16:14 PM »
hrmm... interesting..

Another mod I can do for free???? Sign me up  :mrgreen:

How much do you need to enlarge the holes?
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Offline Red01

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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2005, 03:54:00 AM »
Quote from: "Vee Dub Nut"
hrmm... interesting..

Another mod I can do for free???? Sign me up  :mrgreen:

How much do you need to enlarge the holes?


Click here then scroll to the bottom of the page. Viola! Everything you need to know is right there!  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2005, 10:59:53 AM »
Man im glad this place is back.. you guys rock!  :mrgreen:

Thanks
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Offline Chi-TownBandit

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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2005, 03:55:59 PM »
I just installed the homemade advancer on my B6.  I wouldn't use a dremmel next time.  I started off with it then I had to go to one of my pretty heavy duty drills, and used a drill bit to enlarge the holes.  It started snowing yesterday, so I couldn't test it out.  I"ll let everyone know how it goes, as soon as I get a chance.   :motorsmile:
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1998 B12 (AKA "Shiraz")
H.S. full exhaust, 5 degree advancer, and Stage II
Progressive front springs and 1100 GSXR shock
Givi 3 bag set up, plus other little sports touring mods

Offline Chi-TownBandit

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Wow!!
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2005, 07:27:18 PM »
What a great mod!  Glad I did it, and saved some money.  Spent some time on it--measured twice and cut once, but it was time well spent.  Great throttle response.
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1998 B12 (AKA "Shiraz")
H.S. full exhaust, 5 degree advancer, and Stage II
Progressive front springs and 1100 GSXR shock
Givi 3 bag set up, plus other little sports touring mods

Offline ArcticEd

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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2006, 10:31:58 AM »
Can someone copy and paste this information?? For whatever reason, I can't access the link provided.........
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Offline kedeg_97B12

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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2006, 11:16:39 AM »
Larry's site was hacked and is currently off line.
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2006, 12:37:30 PM »
Quote from: "ArcticEd"
Can someone copy and paste this information?? For whatever reason, I can't access the link provided.........


The 9 Step Program On How To Make Your Own Adjustable Ignition Advancer
It's easy and best of all, it's FREE.

Step 1: Remove the Signal Generator Cover (right/front engine cover).
Step 2: Remove the trigger rotor by removing the bolt in the center.
Step 3: Remove the 3 screws holding the ignition plate and loosen the plate.
Step 4: Enlarge the bolt holes in clockwise direction. *



Step 5: Reinstall the plate and trigger.
Step 6: Torque the trigger bolt to 25-34Nm/18-25.5lbft.
Step 7: Rotate the plate counterclockwise and tighten the 3 screws.
Step 8: Reinstall the cover.
Step 9: Testride time!

* How much should you enlarge the holes/rotate the plate?
Enlarge the holes ~5mm. The amount of advance should be 3-5° and 1° is ~1mm of slotting the plate.
A dyno test will find the best setting, but if you have no dyno and the motor is not highly modified, try 5° first.

Be careful not to over do it and listen for engine detonation which usually occurs at low RPM and high load (lugging).
On a basically stock (rejetted fits in this category) engine you may seet 1-2 Hp in the midrange, but mostly it's improved response.

Aftermarket advance triggers you can by have usually a fixed setting of 5°, so if you don't go any wilder with your slotting than that, you should be safe.

NOTE:Since Fast Larry's site keeps getting hacked or otherwise going off-line and this is a popular question, I'm going to put a copy of this How-To in the FAQ's
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Offline ArcticEd

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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2006, 09:15:12 PM »
Thanks a bunch. :thanks:
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Offline chevsuz12

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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2006, 12:54:11 AM »
I did this mod years ago, still works great.  Smoothed out throttle response, and allowed for quicker warmup.
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Offline Paulie67

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« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2006, 11:10:55 PM »
I used a chainsaw sharpening file to do mine ..
Very easy....
I only went approx. 3 degrees.. Sure smoothed out the mid range..
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Offline Farre

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2006, 06:39:22 AM »
is this possible with a B4 too?
I'm thinking yes, unless the TPS comes into the scene somehow..
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