Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: Fordtech on January 22, 2007, 07:27:11 PM
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Hey ppl.
In case anyone is interested...Hyperpro USA makes a reactive Damper for the Bandits. Pick a color...blue, red, gold, gunmetal. or polished aluminum. The mounting is Ducati 916 style a la top mount. Fast service...and they look bitchin'. I just got one...not mounted yet..
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Does this one require welding - like the Scott?
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Hey Red01
No welding cutting drilling etc. bolts around the headstock and to the tank rubber mounting point on the frame. Another mount goes through another frame hole under tank. They send a 3mm steering stop for the left side as I am guessing the stroke of the damper is short??? I dunno. I have not bolted it on yet as it is -15 outside. The part that holds the damper is attached to the handlebar mounts looks like a pretty easy install.
www.hyperprousa.com
No pics of the bandit....To get a rough idea....check out the Yamaha Fazer..06.
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When you are finished with the install please let us know if along with bing factor there is any difference, less head-shake exc. . Also pics of the install if possible. Thanks
Hey ppl.
In case anyone is interested...Hyperpro USA makes a reactive Damper for the Bandits. Pick a color...blue, red, gold, gunmetal. or polished aluminum. The mounting is Ducati 916 style a la top mount. Fast service...and they look bitchin'. I just got one...not mounted yet..
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I will do that. Like I said ....in reply to previous poster who said worthless thread without pics. IT IS MINUS BLOODY 15 outside and am not installing it until the temp is humane....I will post pics ASAP......
As far as the instructions go..pretty straight forward though...PLUS the damper itself is a really nice piece.
Aslo I really never had headshake prob's, BUT...after changing the rear shock for a GSXR unit, which tends to sit the rear higher, I could feel a little "unsteadiness" when pushed hard....as in hard cornering at 150 km/hr.......Did I say that out loud officer....??? I meant 50 yeah that's it.....
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Its listed as only 95-99 models :sad:
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My old Gixer had one. Rock steady. I noticed on my new B12 last year, once or twice when I was on the throttle in a corner even at 100 kph that I got a bit of shimmy at the front end. I'll probably install one. Did you mention the pricing?
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Wow, just found the pricing. Maybe I'll be waitin for a bit.
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Me also, at first thought I was imagining things. Installed Super Fork Brace and never had it happen again so far. But I do think a dampener would be great for those on handed moments, too bad the years listed don't cover gen2.
My old Gixer had one. Rock steady. I noticed on my new B12 last year, once or twice when I was on the throttle in a corner even at 100 kph that I got a bit of shimmy at the front end. I'll probably install one. Did you mention the pricing?
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Holeshot makes one for the 2G that's a bolt-on..
Scott has one of the rotary types for both Gens, but it does require a small bit of welding.
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I remember seeing the Holeshot product. As I recall it seemed a little pricey and looked a little awkward. Maybe the color seem on these seem more attractive along with box ready installation (no welding), made me take more interest. I hate the thought of welding on my still new bike or paying the high cost of welding to have someone else do it.
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The Holeshot unit doesn't require any welding and is a complete bolt-on, too.
Here's the Holeshot unit on a naked B12:
(http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/images/bndt_damper_1.jpg)
The S model gets a different mounting system though and is virtually hidden when installed.
(http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/images/bndt_damper_4.jpg)
I don't have one, but one of my riding friends had a '01 B12N with one (he's on a Busa now), and he said it worked great.
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I don't remember it looking that good in the advertisement. I wonder why none of the steering dampeners made for road bikes are designed to be incorporated into the steering head like on dirt bikes, probably because the cockpit on street bikes is already to busy with other things and of course sports divergence. Guess I will have to take a second look at Holeshot. Has anyone ever impaled there genitals or bent the thing getting off. I suppose its a moot point with the "S" modle.
The Holeshot unit doesn't require any welding and is a complete bolt-on, too.
Here's the Holeshot unit on a naked B12:
(http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/images/bndt_damper_1.jpg)
The S model gets a different mounting system though and is virtually hidden when installed.
(http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/images/bndt_damper_4.jpg)
I don't have one, but one of my riding friends had a '01 B12N with one (he's on a Busa now), and he said it worked great.
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I wonder why none of the steering dampeners made for road bikes are designed to be incorporated into the steering head like on dirt bikes
You mean like this Scotts Performance (http://www.scottsperformance.com/index.php) damper for the B12?
Photo shows the 1200s with the completed weld-on kit in place. The weld-on tower is just in front of the tank and requires 2 very small welds on each side of the frame bracket. Normal installation time is about 45 minutes including the welding. The rest of the kit bolts to the existing stock triple clamp.
(http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/344.jpg)
(http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/118.jpg)
(http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/343.jpg)
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Oh my goodness, now thats elegance. Thanks Red01, If I get one regardless of the price, it will be this technology. I suppose I should research some reviews on performance compared to the other (the lance). But still if it works as good as it looks to protect against deflection, this beauty will be my type, even if if requires some welding.
I wonder why none of the steering dampeners made for road bikes are designed to be incorporated into the steering head like on dirt bikes
You mean like this Scotts Performance (http://www.scottsperformance.com/index.php) damper for the B12?
Photo shows the 1200s with the completed weld-on kit in place. The weld-on tower is just in front of the tank and requires 2 very small welds on each side of the frame bracket. Normal installation time is about 45 minutes including the welding. The rest of the kit bolts to the existing stock triple clamp.
(http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/344.jpg)
(http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/118.jpg)
(http://www.scottsperformance.com/photos2/343.jpg)
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I considered the Scott's unit.....I just do not want to be welding or anyone else welding on the frame...kinda anal about that kind of thing.
Could be just me.......noone has ever touched my bike except me.
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Dont know how I feel about that weld part either, looks TACKY He He, wonder if a drill and jam nut setup wouldnt be nice and do-able ?
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The weld wouldn't be a big deal to me. Overall makes a very clean looking installation, as long as you don't mind having the damper staring you in the face all the time.
The Scotts has got a very good reputation from the dirt bike side of things. Lots of adjustability, (resistance as well as sweep?) If I remember correctly, the unit is actually made by Ohlins, and Scotts has the North American rights. I believe Ohlins sells it directly in Europe?
High quality unit, but pricy.
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That weld on post would present some added difficulty in steering stem nut adjustment. At the very least you could kiss the special order spanner wrench good-bye.
Still... I like the look of the Scotts best.
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The weld is on a flat surface so pretty strait forward and simple. A little micro grinding with a drummel tool and matched paint and it would look like it was machined on. The sell for me the the great Techno look which adds a bit of sophistication to the cockpit and no doubt a conversation piece. If I get a dampener something like this would to me would be far cooler looking then the lance which begs for some to hand their underwear (T-shirt) on.
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I found this pic...not my colour but this the damper mounted to a B12!!!!!!!!
http://www.streetfightersbydesign.com/streetweb/banditmania_page/steeringdamper.jpg
(http://www.streetfightersbydesign.com/streetweb/banditmania_page/steeringdamper.jpg)
(Edit - fixed link - mod)
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you can get the scotts for $404 which i think is cheaper than the hyper pro... at the end of the day it's all personal preference i guess.