Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => BIG BANDIT BANTER => Topic started by: Blue Racer on June 02, 2007, 07:16:31 PM
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Yesterday, I was reading the posts and one of us put in an address of a company that makes taller windshields for the 1250. I didn't mark it and can not remember the address or who posted it. I have ordered a 1250/ABS and will need this windshield to keep the summer bugs and winter wind off of me.
If you know this site, I would appreciate the address. Thanks.
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I agree- I too am looking for accesories for the 1250...can't wait to star putting my touches on an already great bike.
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TwistedThrottle sells several accessories for the B1250, including MRA windscreens. I just ordered a Vario Touring screen for $139.99:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/1782/584/
And they also have the one-piece Touring screen for $99.99:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/1781/584/
I almost got the one-piece, it looks cleaner, but I wanted to make sure it was going to re-direct the air over my head.
I hear that Zero Gravity is coming out with a screen for the B1250, but I don't know if they are available yet.
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Sweet man- I have searched yahoo for motorcycle accessories and haven't gotten anything but JC Whitney! thanks for the link...saving it to my faves.
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Thanks, Zen. I knew you guys would know. You and the rest of the troops are responsible for me ordering my 2nd Bandit. You kept bragging on this new one and I got the old itch.... My first was a '98. I had it four years and sold it to a friend who begged it out of me. I should have kept it. This one will be with me for a long time.
Thanks again....
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Your'e more than welcome, guys... glad to be of help! :wink:
We're all in the same boat here with the B1250 only being out for a month or two... I got mine March 28th, the first one on the board I think. So I've had a little more time to play around with it. :bandit:
I'm sure there will be loads of fresh input coming in as we get more members with the new bike. For now, we are the "pioneers" I reckon. :bigok:
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We're all in the same boat here with the B1250 only being out for a month or two... I got mine March 28th, the first one on the board I think. So I've had a little more time to play around with it. :bandit:
I'm sure there will be loads of fresh input coming in as we get more members with the new bike. For now, we are the "pioneers" I reckon. :bigok:
ha- I hear that- you musta been one of the firsts in the country! I Bought a Motorcylist Mag on the way to work on the 9th of May, saw the review of the 'all new' liquid cooled Bandit, then read the price! I searched around and found this site- then bought it the bike the day after I got home on the 17th of May.
Now I have to decide...double bubble- or touring screen. :bandit:
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Yeah, as more get 1250's, there will be a lot of info on this board. I don't know when I will get my bike, ordered it June 1, but dealer is a friend and said he may be able to get one to trade with another dealer, but they are already getting popular and other dealers may be reluctant to trade for something they already have. I told him to order it, no problem. I can wait...hell at 74 (75 in August), I can wait. I bought motorcycles off of this guy's Father 35 years ago. He treated me right, (asked me not to tell as he would not sell to others at my price) so I won't bug him and let him do his thing.
Anyway, great site and much info.
My '98 1200 was a jewel. I should not have sold it. I put a stage 1 kit on the carbs, Yoshi can and K&N air filter. I ran like a hose. It think this one will be better..later
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I ordered a Laminar Lip for my bandit, but haven't installed it yet. When I ordered it, the 'touring' version was not listed as being compatible with the 1250s otherwise I would have ordered that one.
http://www.laminarlip.com/bandit.php
There is a real shortage of 07 Bandit related add-ons
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Zen and Matt. Let us know what you think of your windshield mods. I need something to keep the wind off of my head/face. We need your inputs on how your like the additions. Thanks in advance.
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Will do, Blue. The screen was promised on the 10th... it's now the 12th. TwistedThrottle has always been prompt before, but it looks like I'm gonna have to give them a call.
Don't worry, now that I'm riding almost every day again, that windshield won't be sitting around in the box, that's for sure. I'll let ya'll know. :bigok:
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When I bought my Bandit, the dealer had another black one and a red one and the next time that I was in the dealer, they were both gone. They are getting to be real popular and I do see one (red) sometimes in the morning when I am on my way to work. I work in Murfreesboro, Tn and live a little south of there. The dealer (Sloan's Cycles) is in Murfreesboro, Tn...Banditone1250s... :motorsmile:
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I called TwTh today and they said they got a big shipment in yesterday and my windshield should be in it. Could ship by tomorrow, might have it by Saturday.
Keeping my fingers crossed. :wink:
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Zen wrote: Don't worry, now that I'm riding almost every day again, that windshield won't be sitting around in the box, that's for sure. I'll let ya'll know.
Glad to hear you are back in the saddle. Let us know how you like the windshield after you install it... someone here said it was sort of a chore to install...your comments please.
Later
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It's Thursday, still waiting. :roll:
I'm just as anxious as you are! :wink:
I've ridden in the rain twice now since I healed up, and though it's kinda nice to have the bugs washed off my face shield, I prefer to do it myself, thank you. :bandit:
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Zenman wrote: I called TwTh today and they said they got a big shipment in yesterday and my windshield should be in it. Could ship by tomorrow, might have it by Saturday.
Mattdaddy wrote: I ordered a Laminar Lip for my bandit, but haven't installed it yet. When I ordered it, the 'touring' version was not listed as being compatible with the 1250s otherwise I would have ordered that one.
If you guys have installed your windshield upgrades, what are your thoughts? I gotta get out of the wind and bugs. That touring version of the Laminar Lip looks like it might do the job.
Someone wrote the Vario Touring Screen was a chore to install....What say ye Zen? :grin:
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Good news! They actually shipped my windscreen finally! :bigok:
I called them today to cancel the order, and whaddya know, they had it boxed up and ready to go. They emailed me a UPS tracking number that says I should get it by next Wednesday.
Don't worry, George, I haven't forgotten you! :wink: I'm just as anxious to try this thing out as you are. I promise I'll get that sucker installed as soon as I get my hands on it, and let ya know how it went right after my first test ride. :motorsmile:
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Good show, Zenman. I will be looking forward to you and Matt installing the windscreens and seeing how it goes. Thanks.
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On Twisted Throtle, I noticed a Givi windshield which is higher than the present one by several inches. It says it is very easy to install....this is new as I don't remember seeing it before yesterday.
Anyone seen or have one of these? Comments please..
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as Joe Dirt would say...."DAAAAANNNGGG! That's a big windscreen!"
I want the touring one myself...but that Givi on is BIG. Looks like a Goldwing.:)
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Leedogg said: I want the touring one myself...but that Givi on is BIG. Looks like a Goldwing.:)
Yes, Lee, that is what I am looking for. I ride year around in South Texas and it does get cool here in Dec, Jan and Feb. The chill factor can get pretty low while humming along at 65 or so...that is why I am looking for a TALL windshield...this looks like it could fill the bill...I am 6'4" and sit tall in the saddle...the damn wind hits my chest and goes up under my fullface. Gotta have that tall screen.... :grin:
When you guys get your touring models, let us know...
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Sounds like it is just right for you then...6'4" huh? I can understand that. I am 6 foot myself- I think the touring one will do me fine...but I, too, am sort of waiting to hear some reviews. Hate to spend a hundred bucks- then it not really make a difference.
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Leedogg wrote: Sounds like it is just right for you then...6'4" huh? I can understand that. I am 6 foot myself- I think the touring one will do me fine...but I, too, am sort of waiting to hear some reviews. Hate to spend a hundred bucks- then it not really make a difference.
I had a Rifle on my '98 and it looked like a stovepipe, straight up and funny looking...but it worked! I emailed them and they are not planning a windshield for the 1250. I think they are missing a business bet, but....
I, too, am waiting for someone to give us a review on these windshields...Zenman has a turbo but is still installing it, I think. Lets see if anyone else comes forward...
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I ordered the MRA Vario Touring screen, the 2-piece with the laminar lip. I figured I could always take the lip off it's too tall, and I didn't want to take the chance of the 1-piece being too short.
It's still scheduled for Wednesday delivery... patience, ya'll! :bandit:
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I ordered the Laminar Touring to see how it will work. They said if I did not like it, return it for refund and pay freight. I will try it and see...they said it will redirect the air and should suit me sitting high in the saddle...we shall see ...more later...
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Ha! And they say that with age comes patience... not in your case, aye, George? :lol:
So you ordered the Givi? Good, I hope it works for ya. I hope my MRA works for me, too. At least we'll have two different screens to compare notes, and those with more patience than you or I can benefit from our "experience"... :lol: :bandit:
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Zenman, no, I ordered the Laminarlip, sorry, I mistyped. As I said, it looks like it might do and the said I can get my money back if I do not scratch it....we will see.
http://www.laminarlip.com/bandit.php
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Ok, my mistake. That looks like it might do the job, and for $89 if it works then you did good. Did you get clear or smoke?
I ordered the whole windshield with lip that you've seen on TwistedThrottle for $139.99, in the smoke grey color. It'll be here Wednesay and I can't freakin' wait to put it on and try it out.
At least you won't have to take off the old screen and all that... looks like just a couple clips and your all set. :bigok:
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Zenman wrote: Ok, my mistake. That looks like it might do the job, and for $89 if it works then you did good. Did you get clear or smoke?
Clear...not sure it comes in smoke.
I ordered the whole windshield with lip that you've seen on TwistedThrottle for $139.99, in the smoke grey color. It'll be here Wednesay and I can't freakin' wait to put it on and try it out.
Yeah, if your's is better than the one I get, I will send it back and order one like yours...as long as it is easy to install.
At least you won't have to take off the old screen and all that... looks like just a couple clips and your all set.
Yes, it is easy to put on. I am not much of a wrench. Like Clint says, a man must know his limitations.... :grin:
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Zenman wrote: Ha! And they say that with age comes patience... not in your case, aye, George?
Ha Ha, that is a very old saying, something you youngsters made up. Hell, at my age, I gotta move quickly... :motorsmile:
I ordered the Laminarlip, clear, TL876C Touring Lip...hope it works okay....if not, I will be looking at you guys comments on your different models, send this on back and press on. Yeah, Zen gotta move, the wind is getting to me...lifts my helmet up as I go along at 70...when I get it broke in and hit tripple, it will lift me off of the Blue Racer.... :cop:
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It's Wednesday Zen - has it turned up yet? Suzuki UK have a re-badged version of the same screen so I'm keen to get feedback before I order one.
Thanks
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It's Wednesday Zen - has it turned up yet? Suzuki UK have a re-badged version of the same screen so I'm keen to get feedback before I order one.
Thanks
It's 8:00 AM and I'm waiting for the UPS truck at the moment, taking looks down the driveway, listening for the Boyz (our 2 wolf hybrids) to go off and let us know we're being invaded.
It's cloudy and lookin' like rain, weather channel says thunderstorms. UPS usually gets here in the afternoon... just warnin' ya. :roll:
Jeez, I feel like the tooth fairy at a boxing match... everybody waitin' on me here... :bandit:
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It's cloudy and lookin' like rain, weather channel says thunderstorms. UPS usually gets here in the afternoon... just warnin' ya. :roll:
Looks like you're getting the right weather to give it a good test for us. :wink:
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Ok. guys... I have good news and I have bad news.
The good news is I received the MRA Vario Touring Screen via UPS today, and I have installed it on Ol' #99. :bigok:
The bad news is you'll have to wait till tomorrow afternoon for the road test... a big thunderstorm came rolling in before I had a chance to take her for a spin. I don't mind the rain so much, except for making a mess of our dirt driveway... but the lightning is another story. I've been struck twice in my life, so I'm not taking any chances, no matter how much I like ya! :bandit:
So here's the installation process so far... this will give ya'll an idea of how easy it really is to change the windscreen.
I don't know why Frisky made it sound so hard, you don't have to remove the fairing or any of that stuff... it's basically just a few screws. George, you can stop worrying... it's no big deal should you decide to do this.
Red... <EDITED> the following is all done and ready for the FAQ's. :bigok:
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<EDIT> to save space...
The procedure for removing/installing the windscreen has been moved and can be found in the "B1250/B650 FAQ's" here:
http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=9346
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Anxiously awaiting your thoughts on the shield here. Not to sound the noob that i am, but what purpose does the hole in front of the instrument cluster serve? I notice its on your new shield as well. Any benefit to blocking that off or is that a bad idea for some reason? Not trying to hijack your thread here but it seemed a good one to ask in.
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Actually, In re-reviewing your pics I cant tell if its on your new one or not.
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OK, ya'll... put in 100 miles today on the new screen. On a scale of 1 to 10, I guess I rate it about an 8. Im satisfied with it for the most part, but it could be better in some respects.
You can actually adjust it while riding, by grasping the middle of the spoiler and "clicking" it up and down with a bit of a twisting motion.
I tried it in all 6 positions. The lowest (#1) cuts the windblast smoothly and was best at high speed, but I still had to tuck in a little.. The next 3 positions (#2,#3, and #4) caused some buffeting in different areas around my helmet and shoulders, and also created pockets of less intense air space. It depended on what position I was in, tucking or slouching, but there was always a little pocket I could find for my face shield to occupy.
Position #5 smoothed it out, but still couldn't sit all the way upright and keep my face shield in the "pocket". The highest position (#6) afforded good protection with no turbulence, and the least amount of air pressure overall.
The thing is, it doesn't really create any totally "dead" airspace, it more or less "dilutes" the blast down to a lot less intense level. In other words, instead of having a 75mph wind in your face, you have a 25mph wind in your face. Which is ok with me, it gives me some fresh air in my helmet vents and cools me off when I flip the shield up. And I can flip the shield up at 80mph now.
It does reduce wind fatigue by a substantial amount, I feel like I can ride a lot longer now without getting tired. It's very comfortable compared to the stock screen.
The best thing is how much more QUIET it is... I can actually hear the engine now. It sounds great. I wear a modular hemet, and the noise around my ears is just a whisper now.
The screen itself is shorter than I expected. If you took the spoiler off, it's only about 1" taller than the stock screen. But the spoiler seems to work in mysterious ways, so to speak... it does a lot more than it looks like it would.
I guess if you were looking for total protection, like having a "bubble" of dead air around your head and shoulders, then you might want to try the taller 1-piece Touring screen... but I'd be concerned about buffeting. You could add the Laminar Lip onto the Touring screen to reduce the turbulence though.
That spoiler really is the key to the whole thing... I'm suprised at how well it reduces the noise and buffeting. I'm thinking when it's cold or nasty, or I'm riding long distance, I'll put it at the #6 position. But on hot days just blasting around the countryside the #1 position gives you smooth, aerodynamic air.
George, I don't know what to tell ya... this screen will eliminate your problem of windblast trying to tear your helmet off. But it's not going to give you the kind of "bubble" that your Gold Wing gives you. Like I said, it does great at reducing the intensity of the wind, but it doesn't eliminate it entirely. Personally, I like it. The only reason I don't give it a 10 is because it's a few inches shorter than what the advertising led me to believe.
It also helps a lot with bugs and raindrops, but doesn't eliminate them completely. I did get a couple bigger bugs bounce off the top of my helmet, but my face shield remained pretty clean. In the short cloudburst I encountered today, the bigger drops were hitting the top of the helmet, but I still got moderate misting and intermediate drops on my shield. Not near as bad as with the stock screen though, and they didn't whack me as hard.
So the bottom line for me is: It's a keeper. For now, anyway, unless something better comes along. It does the job, and suits my needs. It's a great improvement over stock, and I know I'm going to appreciate this windscreen all the more as I venture out on longer trips, and encounter varied conditions.
The best thing about it? It's versatility. The different adjustments really work, and are going to come in handy, not just "set and forget". It really is named the "Vario" for good reason. :wink:
Here's what she looks like with the new screen from the seat:
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/ZenMan33/WS6.jpg)
And from the side:
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/ZenMan33/WS7.jpg)
The lip comes attached to the screen already. Shown is the highest position.
It looks pretty good too, ya think?:
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/ZenMan33/WS9.jpg)
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Not to sound the noob that i am, but what purpose does the hole in front of the instrument cluster serve?
Actually, In re-reviewing your pics I cant tell if its on your new one or not.
Yep, it's on the new screen too, a little different shape though.
I'm guessing it serves an aerodynamic purpose... I believe it helps break up the windblast incrementally instead of creating an "air dam" that might cause instability and buffeting. It mixes the wind with the flow that comes over the top and makes it smoother.
It might also act like a vent to keep the inside of the screen from misting up. Maybe I'll try blocking it off sometime and see what happens... :motorsmile:
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Zenman, looks great and glad it works, at least an 8! I received my Laminar Lip and installed it this afternoon. Installation was a NO BRAINER! It sticks on the OEM shield with 3M adhisive. It looks good and I will post pics soon. I did not ride due to weather, but will tomorrow morning with my bunch, if weather permits. Hope it works, if not I will send it back and order what you have...later :grin:
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I installed the Laminar Lip. Have not ridden it yet due to chores around the place. Here are some pics of it and I think it will suit my purpose. Will know tomorrow if the weather holds.
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/Georgephoto72/SHIELD3.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/Georgephoto72/SHIELD.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/Georgephoto72/SHIELD2.jpg)
(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r158/Georgephoto72/SHIELD1.jpg)
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That looks good, BR... bigger than I thought it would be from the website. It looks like it should do the job. I hope you don't get any buffeting or flopping around out of it. Is it adjustable?
How does that attach, just with 3M sticky stuff? What are those screw-lookin' thangs?
Good job, and thanks for the pics! :bigok:
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Zenman writes: That looks good, BR... bigger than I thought it would be from the website. It looks like it should do the job. I hope you don't get any buffeting or flopping around out of it. Is it adjustable?
Rode 150 miles with the group today. The Laminar Lip does as advertised. It reduced my chest and helmet wind 70%. I am pleased. No buffeting or flopping of the helmet. Works great.
How does that attach, just with 3M sticky stuff? What are those screw-lookin' thangs?
It has 3m stickies under each of those screw thingies...I guess the screw thing is for looks...serves no purpose. Very strong adhesive stickies...I got up around 85-90 with no problem or movement of the lip. :grin:
Good job, and thanks for the pics!
At this point, $89 plus $11 shipping seems to have solved my problem with the wind. Still get some, but not bothersome in the warm weather...it does get cold here in the winter...guess I will take my GW in the cold months. :lol:
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Zen- I can't reply in the FAQ- but why os it needed to remove the mirriors? On the last pis the right side mirror is still on.
Just curious.
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Zen- I can't reply in the FAQ- but why os it needed to remove the mirriors? On the last pis the right side mirror is still on.
Just curious.
That's because on the last pic, the new windscreen is already installed... you can see it underneath the old windscreen. I just set it there so you can see the mounting points.
My original pics when I had it apart didn't come out, and I was too lazy to take it all apart again. :lol:
You have to take the mirrors off so you can spread the gap between the outer fairing shell and the inner fairing panel, to slide the old screen out and the new one in. Otherwise you won't have enough room.
You can't post in there because the FAQ's are meant for informational reference only. Discussion and questions we can have in the general forum threads like here... :wink:
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Zenman wrote: The hi-beam socket and up/down adjuster is identical, but must be accessed by reaching up under the front left edge of the fairing and feeling for it. It's held on by a spring clip just like the lo-beam socket, and the adjuster takes a 5mm allen wrench also.
Zen, can you change the hi-beam without taking the instrument panel off, in case the hi-beam goes out, but not the lo-beam?
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I understood why I couldn't ask there...thanks for the reply- didn't even notice the othe screen was installed.
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Zenman wrote: The hi-beam socket and up/down adjuster is identical, but must be accessed by reaching up under the front left edge of the fairing and feeling for it. It's held on by a spring clip just like the lo-beam socket, and the adjuster takes a 5mm allen wrench also.
Zen, can you change the hi-beam without taking the instrument panel off, in case the hi-beam goes out, but not the lo-beam?
Yep... the high-beam can be found and unplugged just by reaching up under the fairing and feeling for it. I changed my hi-beam without taking anything else apart. See the arrow pointing up under the fairing in the last pic in the headlight FAQ.
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I understood why I couldn't ask there...thanks for the reply- didn't even notice the othe screen was installed.
Thanks for pointing that out. I edited it to include the info due to you and others asking about it... sorry I wasn't clearer in the first place! :duh:
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Thanks Zenman. I was just wondering. I don't need to do it now, but may change out the bulbs for higher wattage later...they seem okay now as I do not ride much at night.
Want a chore? Try changing bulbs on a Gold Wing... :duh:
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Want a chore? Try changing bulbs on a Gold Wing... :duh:
Hah! I've been quoted 45 minutes labour by my dealer to configure my alarm to make beeps when I turn it on and off. It's a dealer option, but 45 minutes? :annoy:
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Zenman-
If I had seen your pics before buying my Givi, I might have tried the MRA. The Givi is taller, and takes away almost all the windblast without buffeting. The adjustability feature of the MRA seems like a great idea. It looks a lot better on your bike than it did on the twisted throttle web site....
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Zenman-
If I had seen your pics before buying my Givi, I might have tried the MRA. The Givi is taller, and takes away almost all the windblast without buffeting. The adjustability feature of the MRA seems like a great idea. It looks a lot better on your bike than it did on the twisted throttle web site....
I might have tried the Givi had it been listed at the time I ordered the MRA. But now I'm happy with it, I like the adjustabiliy and it does look good.
Still curious about the Givi though, and I'm sure others would like to hear your impressions on it... did you get it installed yet?
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Still curious about the Givi though, and I'm sure others would like to hear your impressions on it... did you get it installed yet?
I have had the Givi for a few hundred miles. In short:
It moves the windblast from mid chest to mid helmet, making highway travel much more comfortable. There is no buffeting, but wind noise is increased. For riding in really warm weather, it could provide too much coverage. It looks great on the bike.
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Still curious about the Givi though, and I'm sure others would like to hear your impressions on it... did you get it installed yet?
I have had the Givi for a few hundred miles. In short:
It moves the windblast from mid chest to mid helmet, making highway travel much more comfortable. There is no buffeting, but wind noise is increased. For riding in really warm weather, it could provide too much coverage. It looks great on the bike.
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:congrats: on getting it installed.... got any pics?
So you say the noise increased for you? Mine got quieter. I wonder if you put the lip on there it would help? Both Givi and MRA have add-on spoilers, or there's the one Blue Racer got, he says his works good...
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FWIW - windscreens react different for different folks due to variables like body height, posture, type of helmet worn, etc.
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Yippee!!! (and I mean that....) :grin:
My new Givi D262S Windshield is installed. Going by the write up on this site - Bandit Alley Windshield How To (http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=9346), it all went perfectly.
If I could figure out how to get images on this post, I would. Until then, click on this Two Wheeled Texans link -
My Post at TWTex Bandit Thread (http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=270155#post270155)
Neat, eh?
Phil[/list]
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:congrats: PhilS!
Can't wait to hear how it works for ya.
I checked your link to Two Wheeled Texans but it won't let me see your pics because I'm not a member there. Can you host your pics somewhere and link them here? Love to see your bike wth the new screen.
Thanks for putting up the link to the Bandit Alley FAQ's... we appreciate that. :bigok:
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Posting my pictures somewhere......eeek gads! Can you give me an idea of where and how and I will definately do it.
Sorry - not much of an internet guy when it comes to that. Perhaps I'll ask my kids!!!! :duh:
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Try these links - they don't seem to need a log in for viewing directly.
Picture1GiviWindshield (http://www.twtex.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2893&d=1184206371)
Picture2GiviWindshield (http://www.twtex.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2894&d=1184206371)
Let me know if it works.
Phil
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Deleted all my cookies and tried it again - no luck - sorry on the pictures. Anyone have any ideas where I could post them and link them into this site?
Phil
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Here's what I use:
http://photobucket.com/
I have over 100 pics on there now, all for free.
There's also:
http://imageshack.com/
And probably several others that folks here use.
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Thanks for the web posting link.
Here are a few of the finished product installed pictures.
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/B1250SWindhsield010.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/B1250SWindhsield016.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/B1250SWindhsield017.jpg)
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/B1250SWindhsield018.jpg)
Hopefully this works.....
I'll ride tonght and give a report on performance.
Phil
PS - Don't ask why I defaced my bike with YZF-R1 grips. I did not notice it at the time I bought them, but they do feel good and look good. Perhaps I'll find some nice Bandit grips someday.
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Phil see if you can find some 719 Gel grips. I run them on my FZ1 and my Nighthawk they are really nice feeling grips.
Looking forward to the report on your shield. What does the sticker Anti-shock mean?
BTW Bandit owners..how tdo the stock mirrors work ( On the FZ1 you get you see your shoulders :roll: )
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Looks great, Phil! Glad you got the pic thing worked out. :bigok: I like the color, too.
Ferret... the mirrors could be a little wider for sure. At first all I could see was my elbows, but now I've repositioned them and they are better... either that or I'm just getting used to them.
A set of 1" mirror extenders may be in order in the future though.
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Hello again from the central plains - or so.
I ran with the shield on tonight. Here's the scoop:
All things are quieter and the wind hits about midway up my visor and actually makes the vent on top of my head more effective due to what I assume is a smoother flow of air over the helmet as opposed to blasting me in the chest.
The windshield is sturdy and does not wobble at all.
The tint in the glass takes away from the ambient light coming through and lighting up the LCD display. Thus, with sunglasses on during the day, the lower light on the speedometer makes it more difficult to see the two digits to the right of the "1" on the speedometer......... :shock:
Outside of that, very nice and very worth the time and money. Now we wait for the side case mount to come in so we can get on with the full bags mounting for the rear.
Later - Phil
(http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/BanditwithShield004.jpg)
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Glad to hear it works for ya. I'll have to check out the speedo thing, My MRA screen is tinted too... I guess I should look at my speedometer more often... :roll:
And look how clean your bike is! Now I'm gonna have to go wash mine... :lol:
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On the washing.....well it is brand new and I'm going through the phase that says it will look this good forever if I simply keep it clean. :roll: I use that Honda spray/wash/shine stuff. It really works well removing bugs and keeping her polished.
CLICK HERE FOR THE CLEANER LINK (http://www.parkeryamaha.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=17189)
Thanks though.....bags are a comin'. :bandit:
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Phil, windshield looks great on there.
Did you mention how tall you were?
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Why no I didn't! I am 6' 4" tall and my legs are just right for the raised seat while still fitting the tank cutouts. That is just one of the deciding factors that went in to buying this bike.
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Damn I'd love to be that tall.I'd be breathing different air. :roll:
I'm guessing at my paultry 5'7" in riding boots that the wind would be directed completely over my head with that shield.
Did you ever figure out what the anti-shock decal on the shield meant?
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I'm 6' 2" but have a long torso and short legs (30" inseam). Sounds like your Givi would have worked just fine for me. I went with the MRA though, and I like the adjustable spoiler. They both look great! :wink:
Ferret, don't be envious of tall folks. I've found it to be a lot more of a disadvantage than an asset. For instance, I don't fit very well on little cafe racers, and my extra weight was always a big drawback on the track. (That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!)
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Concerning the Anti Shock.....all the sticker said, from what I remember, was that is made out of an anti-shock material. I will read it again tonight, but I "believe" this is a poor Italian-English translation of a static free material. :shock:
If not that, I'll let ya' know.
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ahhh that makes sense. I love reading manuals and stuff from over seas. You get some wild translations. The Chinese have the best ones :lol:
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PhilS...neat looking. What was involved in installing it. I have the LaminarLip and it works very well, but that is not to say it can't get better with a Givi....
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The best write up is this one.....CLICK ON THIS (http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=9346)
The only issue I had was those little rubber nut thingys popping out. Here is a picture - there are 4 of these holding the window in place. (http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z62/stearnsp/B1250SWindhsield012.jpg)
All in all, it took 30 minutes including all the photos and taking my time as I was paranoid I would break my new toy.
Great shield - buy one.
Phil
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Phils
Thanks for the review ...I am going to order one today. A good topic.
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Yes, this thread is worth a bump... BOING!!!
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Hi Al here, new to the forum. I bought my 1250S in may and have enjoyed it immensely all summer. I just installed a PowerBronze shield and have a few comments:
I'm 5'11" and with the stocker shield was buffeted quite a lot around my head, gets tiring after a couple of hours. The PowerBronze is 2" taller and not as streamlined, directs most of the blast above my head, in fact If I adopt a racing stance it
misses me entirely. I like the looks of it, but that Givi shield probably would have worked better............oh well ! :duh:
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/pidgey_photos/IM000068.jpg)
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:welcome: Pidgey!
I dunno, I like the way that looks... and if it works for ya, then no problem, aye? :bigok:
What did that shield cost, if you don't mind me asking?
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:welcome: Pidgey!
I dunno, I like the way that looks... and if it works for ya, then no problem, aye? :bigok:
What did that shield cost, if you don't mind me asking?
+1 and where did you get it from?
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Thanks, gentlemen ! Yeah, I found the shield on Flea Bay for
$80 CDN http://stores.ebay.ca/The-Superbike-Store-LLC
I'd get way more protection from the Givi, but I likes the look of the PowerBronze..... :motorsmile: Also available in clear.
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I also installed the Givi 262 and I am not completely happy at 6'3 I get a lot of buffeting when near a vehicle out in the clear air its fine
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Pidgey- first- welcome...and second- thanks for the link- just bought one for mine. it has the perfect look I wanted...I got the light smoked one. Now only 17 more days til I get home to enjoy it! :duh:
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Pidgey- first- welcome...and second- thanks for the link- just bought one for mine. it has the perfect look I wanted...I got the light smoked one. Now only 17 more days til I get home to enjoy it! :duh:
No problem, enjoy ! :bigok:
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I've just ordered an MRA Vario shield so will be following ZenMans instructions in the FAQ on installing it.
A question for Zen though - do you find that the handguards affect the airflow? I am toying with fitting grip heaters now that the weather is starting to cool but the handguards might keep the chill wind off enough and might have other benefits in terms of keeping a little of the rain off (along with the better screen). What do you think?
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D, you made a good choice on the Vario, I think you'll be pleased. :congrats:
As for the handguards, I highly recommend them. They afford a lot more protection than just the hands... in fact, they seem to work perfectly with the fairing and windscreen to expand the entire "bubble" of reduced wind pressure. When we had the extreme heat-wave a few weeks ago, I rode in a T-shirt quite a bit, and I found my arms were protected all the way up past my elbows.
Getting off-topic just a bit, how is the lower fairing working out for you? I'm thinking seriously of ordering one ($464.95 US) and I do like the look, but I'm hoping it will add a bit of protection for that kind of money. I'm also concerned about any heat issues... what are your impressions?
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Thanks Zen. Maybe I'll give the handguards a try too.
As for the lower fairing, I can't say that I've ridden the bike without it though I did put in a few miles on the demo bike. I don't think it makes much difference for weather protection since it is a fairly close fit to the bike. I bought it essentially to keep muck off the engine and thus easier to clean and less prone to corrosion. However, I haven't put the bike through a winter yet to know where the water and mud ends up. I did fit a fenda extenda to keep road spray off the down pipes. I think that helps.
I've not noticed any heat issues. When caught in stationary traffic, the fan tends to cut in a lot and sometimes you feel some warmish air wafting over the legs but it's not objectionable and some bikes are far worse. Keep the bike moving and there's no problem. I thought that the fan cutting in was due to the fairing and my radiator guard but I'm told that the fan cuts in a lot anyway due to the small rad which is believable.
My previous bike was an FJR where the fairing stuck out a lot more and gave better protection in the winter. The downside is that you don't get so much cooling air over your body in the summer. So, to me, the fairing looks good and keeps the bike a bit cleaner but don't expect it to give the sort of weather protection that something like a BMW RT or Gold Wing gives.
The biggest issue for me at the moment is the screen. My visor and shoulders get plastered in dead insects and I'm hoping that the air flow will take them higher over my head. If that works, the wind and rain should follow the same path. I'll let you know how I get on. While I'm fitting the screen, I'll wire in my Stebel horn as well.
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Thanks. I think you are right about the fan, mine comes on often even without the fairing, mostly when I'm stopped or just coasting in a parking lot. I like the way the lower fairing makes the bike look more like a sport-tourer, and if there's no real detriment then I'll probably order one.
If you order the handguards, make sure you get the ones for the DL650... the DL1000 ones don't come with the hardware you'll need. And don't let the dealer tell you they won't fit.... they do. Promise. :wink:
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Thanks again Zen. You say about 20 minutes to fit the handguards. May I assume that this does not involve removing the existing grips?
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Shouldn't have to mess with the grips, but you do have to remove the bar-ends. The kit comes with longer screws for those and longer pivot bolts for the levers.
There'll be a few extra parts left over such as the rubber boot for the clutch cable, since our bike has a hydraulic clutch. The instructions are pretty clear though, and you'll figure out the few small discrepencies easily.
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OK, the screen install took longer than expected. I had trouble with the threaded rubber bushes that hold the screen in place. Two dropped out meaning that I had to remove the screen twice to be able to re-position them. Tip: they push in from the front and putting a little saliva on them makes them slide in a bit easier.
Refitting the instruments is also a bit of a pain - I was able to completely remove mine by loosening the connector on the back under the rubber cover - there is a little plastic lug in the center that has to be pushed in to release the connector. Putting it back is trickier since there are several points where it should snap into place. With the original Suzuki screen you can probably see through the screen to guide you but the smoke finish of the MRA prevents this. It took a bit of fiddling to get the job done and to have it all snap back into place. While the instruments were out, I upgraded the bulbs to Philips performance2night blue bulbs that claim an additional 30% output while remaining at 55W.
The screen is now in place and looks better on the bike than it does in pictures on the Web.
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Several folks have reported trouble with the rubber expansion nuts falling out. Though I didn't have any trouble with them myself, I'm thinking I should add a note about that in the tutorial.
I thought about unplugging the instrument cluster, but I didn't know whether that might alter the settings or make me re-set the clock.... how is your digital display now?
Anyway, :congrats: on getting it installed... now go for a long ride, play with the spoiler, and give us your impressions, ok? :wink:
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Fine. No problem. The clock still shows the correct time. It has to survive a total loss of power should the battery be disconnected. I guess it has it's own small battery inside that gets topped up by the main battery or some kind of capacitor that keeps thing held up for a while. Otherwise it would make it too easy for dishonest folk to disconnect the instruments and zero the clocks.
BTW, I put new bulbs in and contrary to what the manual says, it is much easier to turn the bars to the left and reach down inside the fairing to get to the up/down adjuster. I did this tonight meaning that I could sit on the bike to make the adjustments - much easier! :grin:
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Tried the screen on the way to work and didn't notice much difference. Still a breeze and still got bugs on my visor. Only tried the bottom two positions so far so I'll try from the other end on the way home tonight.
What I DID notice was that the whirring of the front discs when the brake is applied isn't so noticeable. Strange...
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Of course you'll still have a "breeze"... the windscreen is designed to reduce air pressure, thus eliminating wind blast and buffeting. There isn't a sport-screen made that will creat a bubble of still air behind it. You'd need a windscreen the size of a barn door to do that! :lol:
Keep riding, and playing with the spoiler. I noticed a big difference right away, but our local roads and riding conditions may differ. I still get bugs on my face-shield, but only about 20% as many as I used to. And I don't think I would even want dead air, it's nice to have a breeze in my helmet vents, and be able to open my face-shield to cool off on hot days. :motorsmile: