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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MECHANICAL & TECHNICAL => Topic started by: scoopix on September 01, 2006, 09:18:25 AM

Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: scoopix on September 01, 2006, 09:18:25 AM
Picked up my new 1200 last week, now clocked up 500 k's . All great but at 4000revs on an annoying tingle (vibration) through the bike is this normal, will it go away once run in or should the dealer fix at first service3. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: WEINERDOGBONE on September 01, 2006, 06:32:22 PM
I believe that is normal for the bike. Mine has done it since new. It won't be leaving you after service. There are certain remedies that will reduce how much you feel it.  You can search this site for those.
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: scoopix on September 01, 2006, 08:11:02 PM
thanks, I was hoping it was just an initial problem
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: PaulVS on September 01, 2006, 09:55:26 PM
the 4000RPM range is the buzziest of the Bandit's bandwidth.... but it does get a little better as the bike gets broken in.  

This is the case with almost all motorcycles as the engine 'settles in'.
Title: Re: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: Daytona on September 03, 2006, 09:45:07 AM
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="scoopix"]Picked up my new 1200 last week, now clocked up 500 k's . All great but at 4000revs on an annoying tingle (vibration) through the bike is this normal, will it go away once run in or should the dealer fix at first service3. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks
Hey i know one thing! I would use that to have the carb's sync'ed or set the stage for a valve adj, check later on! These must have gotten worse with the newer models? Does anyone know if a jet kit make any diff in the 4k buzz? They couldn't have leaned them out anymore than say the 01's were! Do the new ones have the lower Euro eng mount like the 600's have? :shock:  :duh:
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: Elmojo on September 03, 2006, 10:32:09 PM
Mine had some vibes around that range when I got it, but not as bad as some I gather.
My solution was to fill the bars with lead shot, which you can get from an ammunition reloading supply, or cutting open lots of #6 shotgun shells! :roll:
I also machined custom bar ends out of brass that are mucho heavier than the stock ones, and look sweet to boot. :wink:
Together, these two things have almost eliminated the buzz at all rpms.
I've also heard that gel grips help, and of course gloves, which you always wear anyway, right?

Shiny Side up!

Elmojo
Title: vibes
Post by: scoopix on September 04, 2006, 08:23:26 AM
thanks for the feedback, I was kinda hoping that a new bike would not require the use of shot in the bars to stop the annoying vibe. But I suppose if nothing else works then what the hec.

I also think that the carbs should not need a sync done with 500 ks on the clock?
thanks
Title: Re: vibes
Post by: Daytona on September 04, 2006, 10:40:14 AM
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="scoopix"]thanks for the feedback, I was kinda hoping that a new bike would not require the use of shot in the bars to stop the annoying vibe. But I suppose if nothing else works then what the hec. I also think that the carbs should not need a sync done with 500 ks on the clock?
thanks
"Ah" but that is when they need it the most! Go into a stealers DEN and say its just not running as smooth as my buds! The first thing out of there mouth!!! (which is a $$ maker for them) carb sync! It will make a huge diff on the way it runs, is a simple thing to do with the best results. At all RPM. Like a tug of war, if all aren't doing there part! the others have to work harder!! Every part on a new machine has to wear in to its sweet spot!!! Even a EFI eng needs the throttle body's sync'd! I think it should be part of the 600m service and is on the more expensive stuff!! :beers:
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: rider123 on September 06, 2006, 01:30:58 PM
Same here, 4000 a litle buzzy but has been much better now that I have it broken in. Also a carb sync helps alot too.
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: StangMATA on September 06, 2006, 06:03:25 PM
Mine buzzes there...I just wind it up a bit more to fix the issue.  :wink:
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: Bazza on September 06, 2006, 08:57:46 PM
Everything mechanical has a certain range in its operation where frequency's are loudest.

The Bandit's is in the 3500-4500 rpm range.
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: PaulVS on September 06, 2006, 09:54:07 PM
Another vote for a carb sync to smooth things out.  They are NOT in really good sync from the factory.

But do these thing first:

1.  Make all the performance mods you plan on. (e.g. exhaust, jet kit, A/F screw adjustments.)

2.  Replace the air filter or make sure it's in good shape.
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: Rocketjock on September 06, 2006, 10:32:42 PM
I've got 4000km on my 06 now and can feel some vibs in the feet at the 4500 range, but not bad. There is, however, absolutely nothing coming thru the bars. If you're feeling it there, ther is something wrong.
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: scoopix on September 10, 2006, 06:53:41 AM
Thanks for all your feedback, Will run to the GP at Phillip Isalnd this week and first service after we will see what happens
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: gary.c. on September 12, 2006, 05:01:16 PM
just changed from 600 to 1200 noticed the vibes straight away.some at 2000 r.p.m. but most at 4500 r.p.m. .just had carbs balanced,made no diference.As bike is still in warranty suzuki have agreed to strip motor and balance crank. will keep you up dated.
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: solman on September 12, 2006, 08:19:48 PM
these bars are shorter than what I've had in the past.  another remedy is to install a bar snake.  It is basically a gel snake that goes into your handlebars to help absorb the vibration.  Here is a link:  http://www.holeshot.com/barsnake/index.shtml
Title: 2006, 500ks am I paranoid
Post by: Rocketjock on September 13, 2006, 11:41:17 AM
Quote from: gary.c.
just changed from 600 to 1200 noticed the vibes straight away.some at 2000 r.p.m. but most at 4500 r.p.m. .just had carbs balanced,made no diference.As bike is still in warranty suzuki have agreed to strip motor and balance crank. will keep you up dated.


Do I understand you correctly? Zuki is stripping motor and balancing crank under warranty? How the Hell did you get them to do that? From what I have read here getting suzuki to follow up on warranty work is like pulling teeth. That vibration must be extreme. And if we are talking about a fairly new bike shouldn't you be going for a replacement?