who likes what lately
I use the Suzuki OEM. It's the best rated of the ones made for the Bandit
Standard filters are rated to 10 micron, these suckers are rated to 30 micron +.
My tyre supplier who is a total efen nutter, hope he don't mind me calling him that, Paul from Cyco engineering, turned on to them, he preps all sorts of racing engines.
My tyre supplier who is a total efen nutter, hope he don't mind me calling him that, Paul from Cyco engineering, turned on to them, he preps all sorts of racing engines.
Are you talking about one of these?
http://www.suzukisv1000.com/products/v3_oil_filters.htm
http://www.gopurepower.com/store/item.asp?itemID=8400&dia=true
A quick calculation tells me that it would take somewhere between 100,000Km and 200,000Km for one of those to pay for them self, and that's if I don't take into account the time/effort spent to clean them. In absence of independent test results, I don't believe a washable stainless steel mesh can filter any better than standard paper filter and I also don't believe it can be washed thoroughly and/or easily enough. Also, for that kind of money they should have included a nut on top of it :). Just my 2c.
I used K&N, but have recently switched mostly to OEM. Change them sometimes every oil change, sometimes every other, depending on how long I've run the oil and which oil I've used.
No 50 thousand K's mate.
If you don't believe they are any better,( the washable unit ) thats fine, but if race teams here are turning to them, and sponcership money is not a problem, one has to ask why? and I did, they are convinced of the 20 micron protection benifit.
Yes they are very similar, not the same units I'm looking at.
also differnt in the filtering surfaces, as the one I'm looking at has a multi layered discs that act as the filtering surfaces, a total breeze to clean, when I get my hands on one I'll pull it all apart and send pics
Another thing to consider with the lower micron rating is that it will also affect oil flow. So it could change oil delivery to your engine. Bandit air/oil cooled already have a slight issues with oil delivery to the top end.They are in fact a lot larger than the standard spin on unit, hench they don't have a problem of starving the engine of oil, but they do have a problem that has stopped me in my tracks. One would have to remove the headers to remove and install this filter, so thats a big PITA, as as much as I love wrenching on my bikes, that is the end of my idea of buying such a unit. :sad:
Try to find a smaller "toilet-paper oil filter" kit, a remote cap to fit your bike, and install it. You will be amazed and stupefied at the wonders that follow. You think diesel engines are long-lived? You think a spin-on filter will increase your gas mileage by at least 10%? Fuggedaboudit! I speak from personal experience with one of these filters from J.C. Whitney back in 1972 ($17.95!!!) on my car for over 100,000 miles. The only reason I had to change oil at all was to freshen up the oil additive package.My tyre supplier who is a total efen nutter, hope he don't mind me calling him that, Paul from Cyco engineering, turned on to them, he preps all sorts of racing engines.
Are you talking about one of these?
http://www.suzukisv1000.com/products/v3_oil_filters.htm
http://www.gopurepower.com/store/item.asp?itemID=8400&dia=true
A quick calculation tells me that it would take somewhere between 100,000Km and 200,000Km for one of those to pay for them self, and that's if I don't take into account the time/effort spent to clean them. In absence of independent test results, I don't believe a washable stainless steel mesh can filter any better than standard paper filter and I also don't believe it can be washed thoroughly and/or easily enough. Also, for that kind of money they should have included a nut on top of it :). Just my 2c.
I used K&N, but have recently switched mostly to OEM. Change them sometimes every oil change, sometimes every other, depending on how long I've run the oil and which oil I've used.
ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning. :grin:
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.
ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning. :grin:
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.
:yikes: She said the "F" word! :duh:
I've actually tried to find the info and can't maybe google fails me.
almost hate to start another oil filter thread but i see that the pure one is now made in china.
it was my filter of choice but it doesn't look so good anymore.
thinking K&N but that's alot to pay for a nut.
HiFlo may be my next choice
so chime in;
who likes what lately
BTW I use Rotella synth. 5w40
Great oil. Diesel truckers use it a lot. The other great diesel oil is Mobil Delvac 1300 Super, 15W-40. Supposed to have the best additive package out there, but it isn't synthetic, so it's very cheap. I find it in Walmarts everywhere. Been using Delvac in my '99 Bandit 1200 until just recently, when I switched to Royal Purple synthetic. The Purple stuff costs more per quart than what the Mobil Delvac costs for a gallon., but the 1200 seems to like the purple stuff better. Hm-mmm! Live and learn!
I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .
I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .
Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info
I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .
Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info
uhhhhh NO ! :beers:
--->Try the link. I experienced no noise at all, and my speakers were on just an hour ago when I tried the site. Really! :thumb:
Fast Larry apparently likes Suzuki OEM filters, but I have never tried Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil - don't even know where to get it. :banghead: <---
btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren
I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .
Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info
uhhhhh NO ! :beers:
--->Try the link. I experienced no noise at all, and my speakers were on just an hour ago when I tried the site. Really! :thumb:
Fast Larry apparently likes Suzuki OEM filters, but I have never tried Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil - don't even know where to get it. :banghead: <---
btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren
I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .
Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info
Thank you, Snofrog! Went to Klotz website and bokkmarked it.
uhhhhh NO ! :beers:
--->Try the link. I experienced no noise at all, and my speakers were on just an hour ago when I tried the site. Really! :thumb:
Fast Larry apparently likes Suzuki OEM filters, but I have never tried Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil - don't even know where to get it. :banghead: <---
btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren
http://klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=64
ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning. :grin:
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.
:yikes: She said the "F" word! :duh:
I've actually tried to find the info and can't maybe google fails me.
Here's one...
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html
You can see the Fram filter gets "F" and "C" grades on its construction.
Others have done some dissecting comparisons as well and found it wanting.
The Wix & NAPA filters are good alternatives to the OEM. Also, the STP filter may still be available in Canada.