LATEST ON OIL FILTERS

[mademiriam]

ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning. 
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.

[Red01]

ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning. 
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.

  She said the "F" word! 

[PaulVS]

ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning. 
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.

  She said the "F" word! 

+1.  While Fram makes some very good oil filters... It seems their offering for the Bandit is probably the worst option out there...  based on some professional analysis.

[mademiriam]

 I've actually tried to find the info and can't maybe google fails me.  If you're wondering why canadians seem to be using FRAM a lot it's because canadian tire (a big autoparts etc. store) sells them, at the suzuki dealer a filter was $20 last time I checked  . Maybe the price is more reasonable now or I could get a male to ask for me as that always gets better results.  Thats right go ahead and laugh I have a heck of a time getting decent service at a motorcycle store.
Both of our bikes use the same filters, so I usually buy four or so at a time.

[PaulVS]

I've actually tried to find the info and can't maybe google fails me.

Here's one...

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

You can see the Fram filter gets "F" and "C" grades on its construction.

Others have done some dissecting comparisons as well and found it wanting.

The Wix & NAPA filters are good alternatives to the OEM.  Also, the STP filter may still be available in Canada.

[gyrogearcrunch]

almost hate to start another oil filter thread but i see that the pure one is now made in china.

it was my filter of choice but it doesn't look so good anymore.

thinking K&N but that's alot to pay for a nut.
HiFlo may be my next choice

so chime in;

who likes what lately

BTW I use Rotella synth. 5w40

Great oil. Diesel truckers use it a lot. The other great diesel oil is Mobil Delvac 1300 Super, 15W-40. Supposed to have the best additive package out there, but it isn't synthetic, so it's very cheap. I find it in Walmarts everywhere. Been using Delvac in my '99 Bandit 1200 until just recently, when I switched to Royal Purple synthetic. The Purple stuff costs more per quart than what the Mobil Delvac costs for a gallon., but the 1200 seems to like the purple stuff better. Hm-mmm! Live and learn!

[snofrog]

I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .

[gyrogearcrunch]

I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .

Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info

[snofrog]

I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .

Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info

uhhhhh NO ! 

btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren

[gyrogearcrunch]

I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .

Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info

uhhhhh NO ! 

--->Try the link. I experienced no noise at all, and my speakers were on just an hour ago when I tried the site. Really! 

Fast Larry apparently likes Suzuki OEM filters, but I have never tried Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil - don't even know where to get it.  <---

btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren

[snofrog]

I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .

Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info

uhhhhh NO ! 

--->Try the link. I experienced no noise at all, and my speakers were on just an hour ago when I tried the site. Really! 

Fast Larry apparently likes Suzuki OEM filters, but I have never tried Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil - don't even know where to get it.  <---

btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren

http://klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=64

[gyrogearcrunch]

I use suzuki filters and Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil.right or wrong thats what I use .

Go here. Fast Larry has compiled no end of useful data on oil & mods in a manual, including links to "how to" stuff like reworking the 1200 Bandit's crappy front suspension: http://www.portablepct.com/fastlarry/banditfaq.htm#general_info

Thank you, Snofrog! Went to Klotz website and bokkmarked it.
uhhhhh NO ! 

--->Try the link. I experienced no noise at all, and my speakers were on just an hour ago when I tried the site. Really! 

Fast Larry apparently likes Suzuki OEM filters, but I have never tried Klotz 10-40 techniplate oil - don't even know where to get it.  <---

btw last time I went to his site witch has been a couple years ago my A/V sounded like a tornado siren

http://klotzlube.com/storeProdDetails.asp?pi=64

[Dave 02 1200]

I imagine that one reason why race teams use the stainless mesh reusable filters is that they are frequently reassembling their motors using moly-paste assembly lube to protect cams and bearings on start-up.

That stuff quickly plugs paper elements so oil can no longer flow through the paper element.

When the elements get plugged, the by-pass valve opens allowing unfiltered oil to pass.

All that is avoided with a stainless mesh type filter.

But for normal oil change duty, I think the paper element OEM filter is best.

[smooth operator]

  That ss reusable sure would look good on my SV. Chage it about every 3 track days or 1000 to 1500 miles. I had my pal quit bringing in the Fram filters for the Bandit, I've been using the K&N on the Bandit and OEM on the SV.

[stormi]

ah nothing like the smell of a oil filter thread in the morning.  
I'm using OEM or FRAM, the fram because it is usually about half the price.

  She said the "F" word!  

We haven't touched fram since the 919 got low-sided in the grass, and the filter collapsed, throwing a low oil pressure light.

http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=5990.0

I've actually tried to find the info and can't maybe google fails me.

Here's one...

http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

You can see the Fram filter gets "F" and "C" grades on its construction.

Others have done some dissecting comparisons as well and found it wanting.

The Wix & NAPA filters are good alternatives to the OEM.  Also, the STP filter may still be available in Canada.

We use the Napa ones,... they can survive a small crash, unlike the Fram ones. 

I -really- have to stop rating my oil filters on their crash survivability.   

Additionally, this page, has saved me a small fortune:
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html