need some work done

[max]

i was worndering how to make my bike faster but yet keep it looking stock. i'm getting ready to put a KN air filter on it . What else can i do???  

[Bob Holland]

J&E 13 to 1- 1246 Piston Kit, Lazer Level 3 Ported Head w/ over-size stainless steel, 30mm intake and 26mm exhaust, valves, APE bronze valve guides, Heavy Duty Valve Springs. CamMotion G21 Cams w/ Slotted Sprockets, Holeshot top end oiler kit,  Mikuni 38mm Flatslide Carbs with K-N Pod Filters, Quarter Turn Throttle. 4” over swing arm, HEL Oversized Oil Cooler w/ SS Lines, Hindle SS Exhaust, Holeshot Power Shifter3, Dyna shift light, Pingel High Flow Petcock,  GSXR 1100 Clutch, Cable clutch conversion, GSXR 1100 shock rebuilt by Lindeman, Front Forks Rebuilt by Lindeman, LSL Rearsets, Tokico 6 Pot Brakes w/ SS Lines,
155 RWH, 94 ft lb torque,
9.78 et at 139.84 mph best ¼ mile.

[pmackie]

Welcome Max...

There are a few things you can do...depending on the size and year of your bike, the K&N may NOT be it.

Generally a jet kit to get the jetting right...

Let us know the year and size of your bike, and then view the Frequently Asked Questions area for you particular model.

[B6mick]

J&E 13 to 1- 1246 Piston Kit, Lazer Level 3 Ported Head w/ over-size stainless steel, 30mm intake and 26mm exhaust, valves, APE bronze valve guides, Heavy Duty Valve Springs. CamMotion G21 Cams w/ Slotted Sprockets, Holeshot top end oiler kit,  Mikuni 38mm Flatslide Carbs with K-N Pod Filters, Quarter Turn Throttle. 4” over swing arm, HEL Oversized Oil Cooler w/ SS Lines, Hindle SS Exhaust, Holeshot Power Shifter3, Dyna shift light, Pingel High Flow Petcock,  GSXR 1100 Clutch, Cable clutch conversion, GSXR 1100 shock rebuilt by Lindeman, Front Forks Rebuilt by Lindeman, LSL Rearsets, Tokico 6 Pot Brakes w/ SS Lines,
155 RWH, 94 ft lb torque,
9.78 et at 139.84 mph best ¼ mile.

You forgot the supercharger.

[Bob Holland]

You forgot the supercharger.

But I don't have a supercharger

[Red01]

Well, a supercharger (or a turbo) probably isn't a good idea with 13:1 pistons.  

[JamieK]

Take some performance rider training then get your suspension sorted exactly for you...your bike will be much faster with those two things taken care of and still appear totally stock

[max]

i can not find a jet kit for the year of my bike. i can not find any aftermarket parts for it. i just got a new set of tomahawk tires.

[Blade]

J&E 13 to 1- 1246 Piston Kit, Lazer Level 3 Ported Head w/ over-size stainless steel, 30mm intake and 26mm exhaust, valves, APE bronze valve guides, Heavy Duty Valve Springs. CamMotion G21 Cams w/ Slotted Sprockets, Holeshot top end oiler kit,  Mikuni 38mm Flatslide Carbs with K-N Pod Filters, Quarter Turn Throttle. 4” over swing arm, HEL Oversized Oil Cooler w/ SS Lines, Hindle SS Exhaust, Holeshot Power Shifter3, Dyna shift light, Pingel High Flow Petcock,  GSXR 1100 Clutch, Cable clutch conversion, GSXR 1100 shock rebuilt by Lindeman, Front Forks Rebuilt by Lindeman, LSL Rearsets, Tokico 6 Pot Brakes w/ SS Lines,
155 RWH, 94 ft lb torque,
9.78 et at 139.84 mph best ¼ mile.

If you want to keep the bike streetable, it will require re-sleeving to put the 1246 kit in. I have learned that no one right now is makeing the sleeves any more. You can have them custom made about about $250.00 sleeve and then you have to pay to have them put in. For the street the 1216 kit is best at no more than 11 to 1 compression. You can go to 12 to 1, but with the poor grade of fuel we are now getting, you might end up with some pinging.

[Bob Holland]

If you want to keep the bike streetable, it will require re-sleeving to put the 1246 kit in. I have learned that no one right now is makeing the sleeves any more. You can have them custom made about about $250.00 sleeve and then you have to pay to have them put in. For the street the 1216 kit is best at no more than 11 to 1 compression. You can go to 12 to 1, but with the poor grade of fuel we are now getting, you might end up with some pinging.

Agin, you do not need to resleeve to run the 1246, I have had the 1246 for almost 4 years, and it runs great on the street. The sleeves on a Bandit 1200 are a larger O.D. than the GSXR 1100, so when you bore them for the 1246 pistons, you still have the same wall thickness as the GSXR 1100 with the 1216 pistons.
The only differance in the 11 to 1 and the 13 to 1 is, you may sit in traffic a little bit longer with the 11 t0 1 without over heating. As long as my bike is moving, and normal stops, like a red light, it does not over heat.
The 1216 kits most used are 13.5 to 1, but keep in mind that the advertised compression ratios are calculated without the base gasket or head gasket, so the actual CR is less than advertised.
The differance on the dyno of my Bandit when it had the Holeshot 1216 kit and now with the 1246 kit is 10 RWHP, 145 vs, 155. I replaced the 1216 with the 1246 in the winter of 2003/2004, and have ridden it on the street ever since.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z295/rlholland3175/BanditMedium.jpg

i was worndering how to make my bike faster but yet keep it looking stock. i'm getting ready to put a KN air filter on it . What else can i do???  

I would start with K&N filter, jet kit, and after market exhaust, and see were that leads

[Red01]

i can not find a jet kit for the year of my bike. i can not find any aftermarket parts for it. i just got a new set of tomahawk tires.

Where have you looked? There's at least four companies still making jet kits for the 1G B112 (2000 & older).

Ivan's http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/bandit1200.htm

Holeshot http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/

Factory-Pro http://www.factorypro.com/
http://www.factorypro.com/Prod_Pages/indexmake.html#Suzuki

Dynojet http://www.dynojet.com/jetkits/motorcycle/suzuki.aspx

The top two are the most popular with the membership.

[Blade]

If you want to keep the bike streetable, it will require re-sleeving to put the 1246 kit in. I have learned that no one right now is makeing the sleeves any more. You can have them custom made about about $250.00 sleeve and then you have to pay to have them put in. For the street the 1216 kit is best at no more than 11 to 1 compression. You can go to 12 to 1, but with the poor grade of fuel we are now getting, you might end up with some pinging.

Agin, you do not need to resleeve to run the 1246, I have had the 1246 for almost 4 years, and it runs great on the street. The sleeves on a Bandit 1200 are a larger O.D. than the GSXR 1100, so when you bore them for the 1246 pistons, you still have the same wall thickness as the GSXR 1100 with the 1216 pistons.
The only differance in the 11 to 1 and the 13 to 1 is, you may sit in traffic a little bit longer with the 11 t0 1 without over heating. As long as my bike is moving, and normal stops, like a red light, it does not over heat.
The 1216 kits most used are 13.5 to 1, but keep in mind that the advertised compression ratios are calculated without the base gasket or head gasket, so the actual CR is less than advertised.
The differance on the dyno of my Bandit when it had the Holeshot 1216 kit and now with the 1246 kit is 10 RWHP, 145 vs, 155. I replaced the 1216 with the 1246 in the winter of 2003/2004, and have ridden it on the street ever since.
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z295/rlholland3175/BanditMedium.jpg

i was worndering how to make my bike faster but yet keep it looking stock. i'm getting ready to put a KN air filter on it . What else can i do???  

I would start with K&N filter, jet kit, and after market exhaust, and see were that leads

I just did an extensive check with several engine builders and they are all telling me that I can run the 1246, but the walls will be thin as I have cut 3mm out. They said it could be done, but did not advise it.

So my question to you is, what is your wall thickness with the 1246? I did the check as I had a cylinder go bad and was thinking of going to the 1246.

[Bob Holland]

I just did an extensive check with several engine builders and they are all telling me that I can run the 1246, but the walls will be thin as I have cut 3mm out. They said it could be done, but did not advise it.

So my question to you is, what is your wall thickness with the 1246? I did the check as I had a cylinder go bad and was thinking of going to the 1246.

Check with tech@aperaceparts.com , they can give you the specs.

When I built my Bandit I too talked with several engine builders, and found that they did not know about the difference in the cyl O. D. of the Bandit 1157 and the GSXR 1127.

If I were building a Bandit 1200 today, for the street, starting with a stock bore engine, I would build the 1216, using the Dale Walker piston kit, or 11 to 1.
I broke the 1216 racing it, and had to go to the 1246. If the 1246 breaks, then I will have to find a new cyl block or have this one resleeved.
     

[Blade]

I just did an extensive check with several engine builders and they are all telling me that I can run the 1246, but the walls will be thin as I have cut 3mm out. They said it could be done, but did not advise it.

So my question to you is, what is your wall thickness with the 1246? I did the check as I had a cylinder go bad and was thinking of going to the 1246.

Check with tech@aperaceparts.com , they can give you the specs.

When I built my Bandit I too talked with several engine builders, and found that they did not know about the difference in the cyl O. D. of the Bandit 1157 and the GSXR 1127.

If I were building a Bandit 1200 today, for the street, starting with a stock bore engine, I would build the 1216, using the Dale Walker piston kit, or 11 to 1.
I broke the 1216 racing it, and had to go to the 1246. If the 1246 breaks, then I will have to find a new cyl block or have this one resleeved.
     

Makes since, but do you have the deminsions? If it will handle the 1246, that might be the way to go.

[Bob Holland]

Makes since, but do you have the deminsions? If it will handle the 1246, that might be the way to go.

I can't remember that far back, but if you email APE: tech@aperaceparts.com , they can give you the specs.