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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MECHANICAL & TECHNICAL => Topic started by: mackys_dad on July 19, 2006, 12:05:40 PM

Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: mackys_dad on July 19, 2006, 12:05:40 PM
I changed the plugs on my 96 Bandit 600 for the first time recently.
The number 3 plug was seized up and I destroyed the tool kit plug wrench getting it out.   I fell back on good old Craftsman tools and anti-seize compound to install the new plug.  A Craftsman 3/8 ratchet is too much tool for the job....I broke the top off the plug, leaving the threaded part in the head...had to remove the windshield, tank and tailpiece to get room to use an easy-out on the broken part.  

Five hour job on a 90 degree day... What a fun time!  
 :roll:
Title: Party Time
Post by: gearset01 on July 19, 2006, 05:20:15 PM
Sweet.
PIN :beers:
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: rider123 on July 19, 2006, 06:26:20 PM
If you want less "fun" you could change them every year.
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: mackys_dad on July 20, 2006, 08:03:30 AM
I see where you're coming from,  rider 123.  I just got the bike about three months ago, so I'm just now getting familiarized with it.
I'm sure it had new plugs installed before, but you would never know from the condition they were in.

By the way, can anyone find the plugs for less than $9 apiece? :shock:
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: Red01 on July 20, 2006, 08:16:37 AM
Try getting them thru your favorite auto parts store instead of a m/c dealer. You may need to wait a day or two, but you should save some serious coin.

Bobcat convinced our local NAPA to stock the B12's Autolites a couple years ago and so far they've always had a set in stock every time I've asked for them.

 :bigok:
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: tannerismyhero on July 20, 2006, 01:27:34 PM
walmart has the champion power sport for like 2 bucks a pop.
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: rider123 on July 20, 2006, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: mackys_dad
I see where you're coming from,  rider 123.  I just got the bike about three months ago, so I'm just now getting familiarized with it.
I'm sure it had new plugs installed before, but you would never know from the condition they were in.

By the way, can anyone find the plugs for less than $9 apiece? :shock:


The person before probably didn't even bother changing the plugs. 9$ a piece? Where do you pay $9 per spark plug? The most I've paid for NGK stockers was about $5 canadian maybe $3.50-$4.00 American and that was at a dealership.
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: mackys_dad on July 21, 2006, 11:07:20 AM
The plugs were NGK, $9 apiece at a local Suzuki dealership.
The replacement for the one I broke was $8.50 at a NAPA parts store.

By the way, I sort of live out in the sticks, so that probably has something to do with these prices.

Lesson learned: buy some on line the next time. :idea:
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: gyrogearcrunch on July 23, 2006, 12:46:36 AM
Quote from: mackys_dad
The plugs were NGK, $9 apiece at a local Suzuki dealership.
The replacement for the one I broke was $8.50 at a NAPA parts store.

By the way, I sort of live out in the sticks, so that probably has something to do with these prices.

Lesson learned: buy some on line the next time. :idea:


Call J.C. Whitney at 1-800-853-4227. Or go online to www.jcwhitney.com. They have "Splitfire" plugs for Hardleys, so chances are good that they can also supply your needs. The performance plugs are $4 each, and the platinum plugs are $6. They send their $4 catalog free with each order. It makes great outhouse literature.  Come to think of it, if you can go on line, you can find a set of good plugs cheap no matter where you live.

NAPA and other auto-parts suppliers all have cross-reference manuals for spark plugs. It should not be too hard to come up with a list of alternate plugs that go for a lot less than what the motorcycle stealer wants. For example, I use Autolite 4162's in my B12 and paid $2.50 USD each.  Parts houses often have sales on things like plugs. I once got 8 platinum Bosch plugs for my '87 Nissan 200 sport coupe at one such sale for about $1.50 each. That set of plugs lasted until I sold the car after driving over 100,000 miles.

Herb 0
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: PitterB4 on July 23, 2006, 10:11:24 PM
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="gyrogearcrunch Come to think of it, if you can go on line, you can find a set of good plugs cheap no matter where you live.


I'm guessing since he posted his question on this BBS, he can get online!   :stickpoke:  :monkeymoon:

(Sorry - couldn't help myself!)
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: andrewsh71 on September 09, 2006, 04:04:14 PM
So is tank removal necessary to replace the plugs? They look accessible if you use 2 inch adapter....Just replaced my air filter and was PITA.

And I guess dont over torque huh Macky's Dad?
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: Rocketjock on September 09, 2006, 06:31:45 PM
It's like those Benzes that boast of not having to do a plug change for 150000 miles. My local mechanic tells me he's had the opportunity to try to change a couple like that before. They fail to mention that thru the electrolytic process, the threads actually become part of the head. For what it's worth, I think it's a good idea to change the plugs yearly.
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: Red01 on September 11, 2006, 06:51:37 AM
I've never tried to do it with the tank on, but if you can do it, I'm guessing it would be a PIA... especially when it only takes a couple of minutes to pull the tank and then the plug access is EASY!
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: mackys_dad on September 11, 2006, 09:35:59 AM
Quote from: andrewsh71
So is tank removal necessary to replace the plugs? They look accessible if you use 2 inch adapter....Just replaced my air filter and was PITA.

And I guess dont over torque huh Macky's Dad?


You can get the plugs out w/o removing the tank.
I got into trouble because I broke the threaded part of the plug off in the head.
The tank had to be removed so that I could get an easy-out tool into the broken part.
This is a scenario that I sure don't want to repeat!  I put a generous coat
of Never-Seize on the plug threads before installing.
And yes, you are right.  DO NOT over tighten!
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: DaveG on September 11, 2006, 09:59:59 AM
go online to plugclub    i think it's .net   quebec i think too

i ordered iridiums for around $7 .

got them three years ago so not sure

i run the stock plugs in the spring till the stabil is used up  two tanks or so, then switch to the iridiums.

don't see any real improvement but they should las a lot longer.
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: Rocketjock on September 11, 2006, 11:39:00 AM
Just hope you've had em out in those three years, Dave.
Title: Spark Plug Fun!!!
Post by: DaveG on September 11, 2006, 12:31:23 PM
yep I swap them out each year
put std. in for winter then irrid for summer
they are holding up great
Title: Changed the plugs in my 01 bandit...
Post by: daking on November 07, 2006, 08:43:37 PM
It could not have been much easier. A little cramped attimes, but the socket that comes with the kit worked great. Put in NGK d9ea, 3.50 a plug.
  David