1998 Bandit 1200 "The Good and The Bad"????

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Paul:

I seem to recall that with an intake and/or dual GSXR cam replacement there is a larger gain in HP in high rpm and more loss in low end . This was on the Holeshot site and/or Bandit Alley sites.
Of course, there may have been other variables.
Some talk of drilled air box, spark advance etc.
You may have already been there on this..
One of the things I like about the Bandit is it's drivability in the traffic and suburbia we spend most of our time in.

Had a race bike in the past & found it was always ill / sucked around town.

Mike

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My previous post was copied from the Holeshot site...

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Paul
     you seem to know a lot about the bandits this is my 1st I was wondering if you know which Gsxr parts interchange or will any oil cooled motor parts swap out with each other is this a rocker arm head or shim and what size valves are in the 98 1200s I have not even had the valve cover off yet a first for me but it runs soo goood I think some of the gixer heads came with 30mm intake valves?

Mike
       My GS1150 is my race bike the bandit is going to be my daily riden bike I just like more POWER I figure I should be able to get it to run some mid 9's and still be very dependable

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It's not so much that I know a lot about them, I just know where to go to find the info that's needed.
And that comes from hanging around here for years.  

I'm not sure what the valve sizes are on the B12, but they're all the same size, regardless of year. All Bandits are screw & locknut style, like the early GSXR's and not the shim type like the 91-92 GSXR1100 & 91 GSXR750.

There's a lot of interchangeabilty between the SACS family of engines. For details of what swaps, go to http://www.oldskoolsuzuki.info/ and click on the "Seven-Eleven" link in the upper left margin, then scroll halfway down the new page and click on "Frankenstein's Guide to Oil Cooled Monsters". I'd post a link to take you directly there, but their site won't work that way.

According to Franky, the B12 has the same size valves as the 1127 and 750R, but he doesn't say what that size is.

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I beleive that the 1st gen. are a few lbs lighter too. I like the lines better than on the 2nd gen,and by looking at the frame difference,I would think the bend on the gen1 frame would add strength. (maybe not).
  I put both cams in mine,seems like it climbs rpm quicker. once I'm in the high rpm, it climbs to red line quick. But thats on the track mostly.
  For suspension upgrades,you can up grade without spending too much. I went with the Race Tech gold valves and springs,but you can get a set of progressive springs cheaper. I have a WP shock on,but I also have a GSXR1100 shock that I only spent $150 on. I have a buddy that I ride with that has the 2nd gen. and I can pull him on the bottom pretty good. He has good top end,but I went up 3 teeth on the back.(Luckily he does'nt have the oil burning 2nd gen)  Dan

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Paul thanks for the site. It is very helpful

                                 J.D.

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Probably some good stuff there for your GS, too.