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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: bsodders on October 02, 2011, 04:18:22 PM

Title: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 02, 2011, 04:18:22 PM
So after deciding not to sell the B4, I completely lost my marbles and decided to tear it down and build it up to decent standards.  For the life of me I couldn't figure out what those grab bar looking things under the tail were for so I cut them off. 
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 02, 2011, 04:20:28 PM
I lost those knee pads and filled em in- another eyesore gone-
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 02, 2011, 04:24:51 PM
And added a few welds to hopefully strengthen things up a bit- I guess- but really just to weld something.  However after a lengthy battle with the center stand brackets I figured I may as well sure up the other mount a bit. 
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 08, 2011, 07:56:08 PM
A little bondo-
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 08, 2011, 07:57:59 PM
And some primer goes a long way.  This might be one of the slowest builds ever but I'll be plugging away until the master plan comes together.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: vwkaferman on October 13, 2011, 01:38:44 AM
Looking good, keep the updates comin, we're not ignoring you!

James
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 15, 2011, 06:10:42 PM
And a couple base coats of good old fashion rust-oleum super bright flat white.  I think I might leave the tank the original lipstick red, spray everything else in bright white followed by a few clear coats and then do the rims in an interesting blue of some sort.  I'm halfway thinking the anodized looking blue they had on the 3rd gen trans am rims.   


Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 16, 2011, 03:44:13 PM
OK, 3 coats of clear are on and while I'm waiting for them to fully cure I figured that since I'm in the habit of changing my mind- I'd go ahead and get the tank ready for paint too.  Alas, it will not remain lipstick red after all-  Some 400 grit wet sanding took the clear right off the stickers and they were ready for scraping.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 16, 2011, 04:09:32 PM
The sticker area is down to the factory primer, which is a tad too far and somewhat necessary, but I can build up that area with a coat of primer before paint.  After the other sticker is off I'll wet sand the whole tank ranging from 400 to 1200 grit then apply 2 base coats and 3 or so clear coats.  But what damned color....
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 18, 2011, 06:56:41 PM
And some rims:  I stopped by  a friends shop to see if he had any old paint laying around.  Turns out he had an old can of ppg that was for 1915 model t rims that were blue, and I was welcome to it.  Sooo, a little thinning and tinting later I came up with what you see in the photo below.  The rears have a few runs but the front is spot on.  I have no idea what the color is though-
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 18, 2011, 07:07:32 PM
        I think for now that's about all the major stuff I can do.  Next I'll need to put the motor back in the frame and start adding bits and pieces to it.  I cut the perches off my tripple tree and need to have it milled- so that will hold up the front end construction and I still need to paint the swingarm and that willhold up the rear.  Tires would probably help and I have an idea for the exhaust that is currently restricted to persons with a 'Q' clearance or better.  Tig welding required.  Also I would like to run pods and a less restricted exhaust, jetting will of course be an issue, advice is welcome.

Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 22, 2011, 08:53:42 PM
        After a few days of drying my shortcomings as a painter became apparent.  The darker colors of the old base coat and the cheap dark primer I used, started to bleed through.  It's a mistake a pro would likely not make but I am but a novice.  So I countered that by wet sanding and repainting with the same color I did the rims with.  And as for now it looks pretty damned good.  Especially cradling the engine again.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 23, 2011, 04:00:23 PM
        Seeing the motor in motivated me a bit more so I went ahead and bolted on a few more things.  Day by day and bit by bit it's coming together.  Hopefully by spring it'll be up and running and ready for dyno tuning.  It's kind of rewarding I must admit,  my general frustration with the B4 was having so many tiny things go wrong that were attributed to lack of maintenance by the PO.  Basically I was fed up with it one day and decided to sell it, then went really off my rocker and figured if I tore it all down and inspected everything as it went on the frame, I'd be home free and able to keep a bike that I really enjoy in the first place.  All of this was highlighted by the condition of the swing arm bearings, while not bad, the grease had obviously never replaced and there were signs of moisture contamination.  Did this affect the handling, probably not but now I know for certain it will not as they have been cleaned and repacked.  Just one example of many problems adding up one large pile of unrideable crap.  The intake orings were another big one; dirty carbs, cdi, plugs, wires, coils, etc..... 
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 25, 2011, 08:43:38 PM
Since everyone likes quickies..... Here's my undertail, all it does at the end of the day is hold the cdi, signals, plate and plate light.  Most of which are being relocated, all it took was a jig saw, a standard grinding wheel and a piece of sand paper.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on October 31, 2011, 07:35:09 PM
So a bit more has happened since last week.  I went to drill out the ignition swith from the tree and whilst doing so I could not help but notice that the machine was also a mill.  With the switch out I replaced the drill bit with a mill bit and an hour later the remains of the bar perches were gone.  Thusly my front end went back together a bit more along with a few other odds and ends.  Also I found a sit with what I believe are factory big bore pistons for the B4, www.clawsonmotorports.com, I'm waiting for an email confirmation from them so don't quote me just yet.  Also here's another site with oodles of information you might like, starting with hommade high test.......http://www.rbracing-rsr.com
either way, here's a photo.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on November 20, 2011, 05:35:07 PM
             Been away a bit, under the weather a bit but now I'm back, sorta.  It doesn't look like much is done but what I ended up doing was opening up the harness and checking every damned connection and making sure they were all soldered and not just crimped.   The bandit had a strange gremlin that caused it to misfire briefly, sometimes once sometimes a few quick stutters in a row, only under load only after a right turn.  Obviously it was either electrical or fuel and seeing as how my carbs were just restored that left three things: my new coils, my repaired cdi, or my old harness.  I figured I'd start where I had not yet been and while there were no conclusives, there were a few minor wing dings that I suppose could under some conditions cause what I what experiencing.  2 things still nag at me though that I suppose I'll have to revisit:  float heights, and coils, maybe cap to wire connection :?:  My ultra black project exhaust components are on the way and so is my new ignition switch.  Just a few more doohickeys here and there and it'll be right as rain.


Anyone got a set of 41mm clip ons?
Clutch/plates/springs?

Here's a pic.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on December 03, 2011, 06:59:59 PM
So the clip ons came in, it took a little finagling and will probably take a bit more but it's pretty close so far.  Ebay 50 bucks-
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on December 18, 2011, 07:33:17 PM
Not really off topic but here's some neat stuff.  I figured out how to make quasi- bar end mirrors and relocate my front signals.  Kinda trick...
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on December 18, 2011, 07:36:46 PM
         Yep, they clear the tank and yep it was free and yep there was no modification whatsoever (for the mirrors).  I used the old signal bracket (I Think), for the new mirror bracket and then drilled 2 holes in the fairing bracket for the rear signals that I moved to the front.   Piece of cake. :bigok:
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on December 25, 2011, 05:45:03 PM
       Not much new, I got my tire on finally and mounted it... not literally, someone else mounted it....hmm, that doesn't sound right either.  For the record, no one 'mounted' my tire but it was installed and balanced on the rim.  Bunch of other stuff bolted on and torqued, forks filled, front brake bled, rear shock in...  I guess that's it for now.  Here's an ok pic., now back to the egg-nog.
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: interfuse on December 26, 2011, 10:55:12 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: bsodders on December 31, 2011, 02:20:14 PM
      HFS! My rear wheel came back with a fresh Conti-force SM 150/60-17.  Looks much better with the lower profile.  Anyway, just plugging away at it.  There is a local foundry that offers sand blasting, I'm having them sand blast the inside of the gas tank before it gets por-15'd after that it's geting a fresh paint job from a local shop in the same color as the front fender if you can make it out.  Very similar to Nitrous Blue, maybe some custom graphics of some kind.  Finally off the jacks and back on the kickstand-  Exhaust is next I guess.  Wahoo- :grin:
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: the2ndgeorge on January 01, 2012, 10:09:55 PM
what kinda clip ons did you get?
Title: Re: Another B4 Build
Post by: TJS on January 25, 2012, 09:57:52 PM
Post the process in the 250/400 forum when your done! Lookn good!