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Offline aussiebandit

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Another dumb A$$ Law
« on: September 14, 2006, 09:06:41 AM »
From a mate

How's this? A mate got done for taking his foot off the footpeg. Cop was
following him. He got a bit of a cramp in his leg, so he stretched it.
He couldn't believe what he was getting booked for. According to the
cop, you have to keep both feet on the pegs at all times, except when
parked. The fine,  at least, is $145 and 1 demerit point.

I never even knew such a law existed, as I've never, ever, until today,
heard of anyone getting done for it.

I'm surprised that our nanny-state government hasn't made it a
"hoonable" offence...

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 09:40:01 AM »
Good thing they didn't catch him riding no hands!  :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 10:41:57 AM »
Wow, it would so easy to get have that law declared invalid.  It says that the rider has to have his feet on the footpegs with the bike is moving or stationary, but not parked.  That means when you come to a stop, you have to keep your feet on the pegs.  Pretty good skills required for that!

I understand wanting to have a law which allows them to ticket riders who are doing stunts like putting their feet over the handlebars, but this law is broken.

Unfortunately, while your buddy will undoubtedly prevail in traffic court, he has to spend the time and inconvenience to take that route.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 11:11:16 AM »
They probably define "parked" as "supported by a sidestand" or something along those lines, so I doubt it'll be that easy to declare the law invalid based on that.  The law is pretty harsh though.  I can see what they are trying to achieve, but it's an overkill.  I wonder if there could be a way to define this to allow for a possibility of stretching one's legs...
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2006, 11:58:39 AM »
Actually, I looked up their definition of "parked" and it's not specific enough to mention sidestands.

But you missed the real point:  the law requires you have your feet on the pegs when the vehicle is "stationary, but not parked" which means stopped at a traffic light, stopped at an intersection, stopped at a drive-through window, etc,.  Pretty much impossible for anyone who is not an extremely well balanced!

BTW, am I the only guy who goes through the drive-through window (taco Bell, etc.) on a motorcycle?
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2006, 01:46:57 PM »
The law says "if the motor bike is moving — keep both feet on the
footrests designed for use by the rider of the motor bike." To me that means that you can put your feet down when you stop, but not until you come to a complete stop.

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2006, 03:16:27 PM »
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extremely well balanced!


Are any of us well balanced? :stickpoke:

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BTW, am I the only guy who goes through the drive-through window (taco Bell, etc.) on a motorcycle?


I will see if I can find one of the drive-thru windows here, and post a pic.  A number of them have signs that say no walk thrus and no motorcycles.  :sad:

I have however "filled" my tail bag with a couple of burgers, 2 drinks and fries in the side pouch.  LOL!  I met the other half for lunch one day, and he figured I couldn't bring the bike and lunch.  I showed him.   :banana:
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 04:31:29 PM »
Quote from: Buddha
The law says "if the motor bike is moving — keep both feet on the
footrests designed for use by the rider of the motor bike." To me that means that you can put your feet down when you stop, but not until you come to a complete stop.


No, the law says "if the motor bike is moving, or is stationary but not parked..." you have to keep your feet on the pegs.  Read their definition of parked, and they mean such that the driver could walk away from it.  It other words, when you stop at a stop sign, you must keep your feet on the pegs.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 04:40:28 PM »
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I have however "filled" my tail bag with a couple of burgers, 2 drinks and fries in the side pouch.


Tail bag?  Cheater!  I've wedged a bag of Arby's under the windscreen, and carried a couple of Taco Bell Crunchwrap Supremes vertically under my jacket.  After all, they're "good to go"!

Of couse, all that fatty fast food does eventually add weight to my "tank bag" and my "tail bag"...
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2006, 04:41:10 PM »
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extremely well balanced!


Are any of us well balanced? :stickpoke:

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BTW, am I the only guy who goes through the drive-through window (taco Bell, etc.) on a motorcycle?


I will see if I can find one of the drive-thru windows here, and post a pic.  A number of them have signs that say no walk thrus and no motorcycles.  :sad:

I have however "filled" my tail bag with a couple of burgers, 2 drinks and fries in the side pouch.  LOL!  I met the other half for lunch one day, and he figured I couldn't bring the bike and lunch.  I showed him.   :banana:


Wow.  Another hijacking necessity here!  And why is it that a motorbike can't go through a drive-in?  I gotta know.

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2006, 05:28:47 PM »
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Wow.  Another hijacking necessity here!  And why is it that a motorbike can't go through a drive-in?  I gotta know.


LOL! I have -no- idea.  I recall seeing the signs, but I don't remember which "restaurant".  I'll keep an eye out for it for a bit.  

You do have to realise though, that the "attitude" toward bikes is a lot different here than in Texas.
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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2006, 01:32:41 AM »
Even if that guy was techically in violation of the law, what kind of jerk pulls him over for it?  I would think it's kind of the cops responsibility to enforce the law in the manner of it's intent, which i'm sure is to nail street-stunt jerks. Like the way towns have loitering laws and such so that they have an excuse to bust people that are causing problems but not necessarily breaking laws.  You don't then arrest 2 little old ladies for standing there chatting for 20 minutes.  Know what i'm saying?  The cop should see the guy is a responsible rider, obeying the laws and just stretching his damn leg. No harm, no foul.

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2006, 09:53:09 AM »
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No, the law says "if the motor bike is moving, or is stationary but not parked..." you have to keep your feet on the pegs.  Read their definition of parked, and they mean such that the driver could walk away from it.  It other words, when you stop at a stop sign, you must keep your feet on the pegs.


Part (1) says if it is moving or stationary but not parked, however, the specific section that says you must keep your feet on the footrests specifically says "if the motorbike is moving".

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2006, 10:37:53 AM »
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Wow.  Another hijacking necessity here!  And why is it that a motorbike can't go through a drive-in?  I gotta know.


LOL! I have -no- idea.  I recall seeing the signs, but I don't remember which "restaurant".  I'll keep an eye out for it for a bit.  

You do have to realise though, that the "attitude" toward bikes is a lot different here than in Texas.


You mean like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, Or Motorbike, No Service"?  :shock:   :roll:   :grin:

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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2006, 11:17:43 AM »
Friggin idiot cops. That guy should follow a motorcycle cop around for a while and the second he takes his foot of the peg, nail him!  :grin:
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