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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: aussiebandit on September 14, 2006, 09:06:41 AM
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From a mate
How's this? A mate got done for taking his foot off the footpeg. Cop was
following him. He got a bit of a cramp in his leg, so he stretched it.
He couldn't believe what he was getting booked for. According to the
cop, you have to keep both feet on the pegs at all times, except when
parked. The fine, at least, is $145 and 1 demerit point.
I never even knew such a law existed, as I've never, ever, until today,
heard of anyone getting done for it.
I'm surprised that our nanny-state government hasn't made it a
"hoonable" offence...
Another wrote in reply
Rule 271. http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/p16.pdf
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Good thing they didn't catch him riding no hands! :lol:
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Wow, it would so easy to get have that law declared invalid. It says that the rider has to have his feet on the footpegs with the bike is moving or stationary, but not parked. That means when you come to a stop, you have to keep your feet on the pegs. Pretty good skills required for that!
I understand wanting to have a law which allows them to ticket riders who are doing stunts like putting their feet over the handlebars, but this law is broken.
Unfortunately, while your buddy will undoubtedly prevail in traffic court, he has to spend the time and inconvenience to take that route.
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They probably define "parked" as "supported by a sidestand" or something along those lines, so I doubt it'll be that easy to declare the law invalid based on that. The law is pretty harsh though. I can see what they are trying to achieve, but it's an overkill. I wonder if there could be a way to define this to allow for a possibility of stretching one's legs...
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Actually, I looked up their definition of "parked" and it's not specific enough to mention sidestands.
But you missed the real point: the law requires you have your feet on the pegs when the vehicle is "stationary, but not parked" which means stopped at a traffic light, stopped at an intersection, stopped at a drive-through window, etc,. Pretty much impossible for anyone who is not an extremely well balanced!
BTW, am I the only guy who goes through the drive-through window (taco Bell, etc.) on a motorcycle?
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The law says "if the motor bike is moving — keep both feet on the
footrests designed for use by the rider of the motor bike." To me that means that you can put your feet down when you stop, but not until you come to a complete stop.
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extremely well balanced!
Are any of us well balanced? :stickpoke:
BTW, am I the only guy who goes through the drive-through window (taco Bell, etc.) on a motorcycle?
I will see if I can find one of the drive-thru windows here, and post a pic. A number of them have signs that say no walk thrus and no motorcycles. :sad:
I have however "filled" my tail bag with a couple of burgers, 2 drinks and fries in the side pouch. LOL! I met the other half for lunch one day, and he figured I couldn't bring the bike and lunch. I showed him. :banana:
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The law says "if the motor bike is moving — keep both feet on the
footrests designed for use by the rider of the motor bike." To me that means that you can put your feet down when you stop, but not until you come to a complete stop.
No, the law says "if the motor bike is moving, or is stationary but not parked..." you have to keep your feet on the pegs. Read their definition of parked, and they mean such that the driver could walk away from it. It other words, when you stop at a stop sign, you must keep your feet on the pegs.
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I have however "filled" my tail bag with a couple of burgers, 2 drinks and fries in the side pouch.
Tail bag? Cheater! I've wedged a bag of Arby's under the windscreen, and carried a couple of Taco Bell Crunchwrap Supremes vertically under my jacket. After all, they're "good to go"!
Of couse, all that fatty fast food does eventually add weight to my "tank bag" and my "tail bag"...
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extremely well balanced!
Are any of us well balanced? :stickpoke:
BTW, am I the only guy who goes through the drive-through window (taco Bell, etc.) on a motorcycle?
I will see if I can find one of the drive-thru windows here, and post a pic. A number of them have signs that say no walk thrus and no motorcycles. :sad:
I have however "filled" my tail bag with a couple of burgers, 2 drinks and fries in the side pouch. LOL! I met the other half for lunch one day, and he figured I couldn't bring the bike and lunch. I showed him. :banana:
Wow. Another hijacking necessity here! And why is it that a motorbike can't go through a drive-in? I gotta know.
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Wow. Another hijacking necessity here! And why is it that a motorbike can't go through a drive-in? I gotta know.
LOL! I have -no- idea. I recall seeing the signs, but I don't remember which "restaurant". I'll keep an eye out for it for a bit.
You do have to realise though, that the "attitude" toward bikes is a lot different here than in Texas.
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Even if that guy was techically in violation of the law, what kind of jerk pulls him over for it? I would think it's kind of the cops responsibility to enforce the law in the manner of it's intent, which i'm sure is to nail street-stunt jerks. Like the way towns have loitering laws and such so that they have an excuse to bust people that are causing problems but not necessarily breaking laws. You don't then arrest 2 little old ladies for standing there chatting for 20 minutes. Know what i'm saying? The cop should see the guy is a responsible rider, obeying the laws and just stretching his damn leg. No harm, no foul.
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No, the law says "if the motor bike is moving, or is stationary but not parked..." you have to keep your feet on the pegs. Read their definition of parked, and they mean such that the driver could walk away from it. It other words, when you stop at a stop sign, you must keep your feet on the pegs.
Part (1) says if it is moving or stationary but not parked, however, the specific section that says you must keep your feet on the footrests specifically says "if the motorbike is moving".
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Wow. Another hijacking necessity here! And why is it that a motorbike can't go through a drive-in? I gotta know.
LOL! I have -no- idea. I recall seeing the signs, but I don't remember which "restaurant". I'll keep an eye out for it for a bit.
You do have to realise though, that the "attitude" toward bikes is a lot different here than in Texas.
You mean like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, Or Motorbike, No Service"? :shock: :roll: :grin:
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Friggin idiot cops. That guy should follow a motorcycle cop around for a while and the second he takes his foot of the peg, nail him! :grin:
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You do have to realise though, that the "attitude" toward bikes is a lot different here than in Texas.
You mean like, "No Shirt, No Shoes, Or Motorbike, No Service"? :shock: :roll: :grin:
LOL! something like that. Most people here aren't used to motorbikes at all. There are more and more every year, likely cos of the gas prices, but I suspect we're about 10 or 15 yrs behind Texas in "Motorcycle awareness" based on what a friend in Texas has told me. The attitude here is "why bother with a motorcycle, they're death machines" or "you can only ride it 3 months of the year" Not true, if the weather is at all ok, you can ride from March (If you're willing to contend with gravel. )to Late Oct or even Nov.
You can see it in the news. The latest being that the Police Chief is going to crack down on those "loud motorcycles". ignoring the fact that many of the "rice burners" and diesels are even louder. You see the attitude when a rider goes down. It's automatically our fault, even if someone did a U-turn in front of the rider. (That one happened last year.) In various places in the city, you will see "no motorcycles" signs. I can't figure out why, other than a "you're not welcome" attitude.
You see it in the attitudes of drivers. The ones that don't see us, whatever, I can contend with that. The ones that get the nasty grins on their faces and take a run at you, stealing your right of way and attempting to kill you, I take issue with. Someone did that about 2 miles from home to the other half about a month or two ago.
You see it in the attitudes of people that you park with. I stop somewhere and get looks like I'm the Devil Incarnate. I've had my bike knocked over, and I have a friend that was spit on for riding a bike (by another biker yet).
Of course that said, last summer a woman was killed while riding with her husband, and I had a couple of neighbors on my doorstep checking to make sure it wasn't us.