Bandit Alley
GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: rocketman1 on January 26, 2007, 04:44:19 AM
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I have read lots of topics about riders going from Bandits to Busa's, but does anyone know of anyof anyone who has gone from a Busa to a Bandit, would be an interesting read and reasons why
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He didn't own a 'Busa, but Crasher has ridin' both and said his Bandit was quicker handling on the tight roads. He's a pretty quick rider, (and did get a chance to live up to his name at the last rally) had the back jacked up on his Bandit. I have mine up too,for more ground clearence,and quicker handling. Depends what you want it for. If you live on straight flat roads(like Daytona)the 'Busa might be the ticket.
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Its amazing what after maket add-on's and customized modifications can do. Having said that here is the question that counts. Box stock we know that overall the Busa out performs all the Bandits hands down silly, the question is what small category's do the bandits out perform the Busa.
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Box stock we know that overall the Busa out performs all the Bandits hands down silly, the question is what small category's do the bandits out perform the Busa.
1) Tire life!! Busas have a healthy appetite for rear tires.
2) Ergonomics.
3) Looks.
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Tire life- that makes sense
Looks- very subjective, my opinion dead gorgeous
Ergonomics- that part has me a bit worried as at a glance she looks sadistic, but so far every boomer I have talked to swear that they are surprisingly comfortable. I wonder if custom bar risers will make all the difference?
If I do buy it will be used and white.
Box stock we know that overall the Busa out performs all the Bandits hands down silly, the question is what small category's do the bandits out perform the Busa.
1) Tire life!! Busas have a healthy appetite for rear tires.
2) Ergonomics.
3) Looks.
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The Busa's ergos aren't as punishing as sportier bikes, like the GSXR1000, R1, etc. - and I know plenty of folks say they are comfortable and plenty are used as dedicated sport-tourers, complete with hard bags. I just think the B12 is MORE comfortable. I'd also not want to make a passenger ride on the back of a Busa all day, but if you have no plans for a pillion, then that doesn't matter.
The Happy Bus seems to be a "love it or hate it" bike when it comes to looks. I respect them for what they are and can do, but I'm in the latter crowd - the one that refers to them as "Eye-abusers." :wink:
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of bikes out there that have been handed, dont under estimate this bike with a couple of washers and a pipe. :crackattack:
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Busa's have a longer wheelbase and are heavier than the Bandits. In the straights, they can beat a Bandit, but that isn't neccesarily the case in the twisties. BTW here is another area where the Bandit definitely beats the Busa, PRICE!
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I love my Bandit for EVERYTHING it is and does. I've never ridden a 'Busa and probably never will but......it's not THAT ugly. In fact, IMO, the whole package has a certain look to it that just says.....SPEED!!!!
Now if you want eye-abuse, IMO, try looking at the B-King for awhile..... :monkeymoon:
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I rode a busa once. It was fairly comfortable and fast, but I was happy to get back on the B12.
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I actully do like the looks of the 'Busa. And always thought it would be a good bike to go on tour with. As far as price, you can find a used one in decent shape for about a grand more than a Bandit. ( I know someone who might sell his four 4K)
Fast Larry hasn't been on line for awhile on the Bandits R US list, but his Bandit has smoked some 'Busas on the strip and the street.(among other vehicles) And I'd get smoked on a straight run, but I'd take on a "busa on a tight run or a track with my Bandit. :motorsmile:
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Box stock we know that overall the Busa out performs all the Bandits hands down silly, the question is what small category's do the bandits out perform the Busa.
Not all the Bandits :wink:
There are a couple of Busa's running around the Carlsbad area that have been handed their ass a couple of times in a friendly stop light to stop light gran prix :stickpoke:
He didn't say all Bandits... he was comparing both in box stock condition. We all know the ease of cranking extra power out of the B12, that's one of it's charms. OTOH, the Busa has it's share of mods available, too... and it'd be a helluva lot easier to get a Busa to 200 MPH than a Bandit.
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Busa's have a longer wheelbase and are heavier than the Bandits. In the straights, they can beat a Bandit, but that isn't neccesarily the case in the twisties. BTW here is another area where the Bandit definitely beats the Busa, PRICE!
Hayabusa 1300 Dry Weight:
217kg (478 lbs.) 218kg (480 lbs.) CA. model
Wheelbase: 1485mm (58.5 in.)
Bandit 1200S Dry Weight:
220 kg (485 lbs.)
Wheelbase : 1430 mm (56.3 in.)
06 B12 dry weight 215kg (474lbs.)
wheelbase 1480 mm (58.3 in)
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Busa's have a longer wheelbase and are heavier than the Bandits. In the straights, they can beat a Bandit, but that isn't neccesarily the case in the twisties. BTW here is another area where the Bandit definitely beats the Busa, PRICE!
Hayabusa 1300 Dry Weight:
217kg (478 lbs.) 218kg (480 lbs.) CA. model
Wheelbase: 1485mm (58.5 in.)
Bandit 1200S Dry Weight:
220 kg (485 lbs.)
Wheelbase : 1430 mm (56.3 in.)
06 B12 dry weight 215kg (474lbs.)
wheelbase 1480 mm (58.3 in)
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Might as well throw the '07 into the mix...
07 B1250 S dry weight: 225 kg (496 lbs)
w/ABS dry weight: 229 kg (505 lbs)
wheelbase:1480 mm (58.3 in.)
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Hey all they are both zuki's what can i say! But hey i know this for a fact! and don't know why? Busa are the same on tires, get much better MPG, (43 to 49) weigh 3lbs more than the 1G B12, will do the top speed the B12 will with ease as its breezing by, My better half will ride for more time on my Busa than she ever would on the Bandit or 1400 Intruder, yes in the right hands a Bandit will dust me in the twisties!! But in the right hands the bandit vs the busa with just the right settings on the stock suspension maybe F-springs, BY BY Bandit!! No BS! Even ROB Robinson admitted the Busa is a hell of a Bike the other W. End we went to Jennings M/C park. But they are Both worth keeping next to your most treasured prized things you will ever own! This guy (VMan on his Busa) is Huge i hear and look what he does to all but the badest of the bad @ Jennings! But i will always keep a pic of my 98 B12 (link below) :beers:
http://s51.photobucket.com/albums/f358/vman1300/?action=view¤t=jennings1.flv
(http://shutter13.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/07/002/54/FB/DB/61/KlWq7h-egzO3O-4Jnd-5ptAlobQ8bgXa0300.jpg)
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Well I was waiting for ya to pipe up, now we have experience talking. Looking good too,even your chain is clean!
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A rider in our local club had a Busa and Bandit at the same time and rode both regulary on longer road trips and club runs. He liked them both but for different reasons. He "street fightered" the Bandit and still rides it at club events. He sold the Busa for 1000 V-Strom and rides that most of the time. Although he liked the Busa, he claimed it was causing tendonitis in spite of aftermarket fixes. He also said that someone on a Vstrom smoked him and his Busa at the Dragon, which is why he started looking at Stroms. After riding one, he was sold. He also claims he will never sell the Bandit. FWIW.
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There is the human element that will always affect our choice in bikes as to what is best suited for us verses our need to express ourselves. I have no doubt that when you look at these two bikes without the human element involved the Busa was deliberately designed with more performance based technology then the Bandit.
A good example is my neighbor Bob's Honda CRF450x vs my DRZ400s. after trading rides on many all day off road excursions through all types of terrain it is clear to both of us that the CRF outperforms the DRZ in agility and handling at race speeds, but the DRZ's plush ride make it possible to ride all day without next day recovery (like Bob). I love riding Bobs CRF for the first 2 hours of any ride but that is about all I can take before my ass feels like anvil and I am ready to get back on my fat slow pony. I am sure as I get older my day on a V-Strom type bikes is coming.
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And that's dry weight...once you add all the fluids it'll be a few more pounds again...
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my dad went from a 00 bandit to a 01 busa back to a 02 bandit. all the bikes are great but pick the one for ur needs. i rode his busa and 02 bandit numerous times and there both great bikes. i still prefer my 00 bandit. :wink:
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Might as well throw the '07 into the mix...
07 B1250 S dry weight: 225 kg (496 lbs)
w/ABS dry weight: 229 kg (505 lbs)
wheelbase:1480 mm (58.3 in.)
Although I know it will happen, I can't imagine an experienced Busa owner chuck holing down to a B1250, as the B12 is an extensively tested platform with infinity more after-market options. I believe the B1250 is targeted at the first time baby boomer, not the return buyer unless it is a move due to Senility.
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chuck holing down to a B1250
a move due to Senility.
Those are rather insulting remarks.
Why would you deliberately be so disrespectful and derogatory towards those folks who are buying a '07 B1250?
You've never even been near one, so you're hardly qualified to make such negative judgements. :duh:
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With the exception of one occasion I have consistently avoided responding to your directed accusations and attacks on my personal opinions because they neither deserve nor merit a response. I realize you have a problem in this area which is your misfortune. My opinions may be strong but have neither been inflammatory nor attacked the opinions of others, not even your own. Feel free to quote me in whatever context you like but rest assured that my personal opinions on posted subjects, positive or negative will continue unabated as it should be for all members of this BBS site.
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chuck holing down to a B1250
a move due to Senility.
Those are rather insulting remarks.
Why would you deliberately be so disrespectful and derogatory towards those folks who are buying a '07 B1250?
You've never even been near one, so you're hardly qualified to make such negative judgements. :duh:
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You know there isn't much worse! Than two of us old farts tryin to fight like we were 19 again!! Its down rite embarrassing! Get a grip and lets prove it on the twisties?? Or we could just sit on the porch and say we did!
(http://shutter12.pictures.aol.com/data/pictures/05/003/6E/FD/1A/92/FdGctVSWDgkki4--5JI1epbN9I907CbQ0300.jpg)
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With the exception of one occasion I have consistently avoided responding to your directed accusations and attacks on my personal opinions because they neither deserve nor merit a response. I realize you have a problem in this area which is your misfortune. My opinions may be strong but have neither been inflammatory nor attacked the opinions of others, not even your own. Feel free to quote me in whatever context you like but rest assured that my personal opinions on posted subjects, positive or negative will continue unabated as it should be for all members of this BBS site.
This BBS site is named BANDITalley, yet you have continually downgraded the BANDIT 1250 and insulted it's buyers everywhere on this BBS.
Calling us SENILE among other names is not a "personal opinion", it is a DIRECT INSULT. And "chuck holing down to a B1250" is most definitely INFLAMMATORY.
And I have NOT "attacked" you, only RESPONDED to your constant attacks on the new bike and anyone interested in buying one.
That's MY bike you're trashing, and I resent it. You do NOT see me throwing rocks at anyone else's motorcycle.
You have already driven off at least two or three members who have stated they have B1250's on order with your obsessive negativity at every turn.
Anyone can look at your post history and see this, don't try and spin it now.
I for one am sick and tired of your attacks and I intend to respectfully call you on it every time I see you indulge in this obsessive behavior.
You keep trashing the B1250, and bragging to anyone who will listen how you're going to "step up" to a "superior" machine like the Busa, Ninja, or Connie. You condemn the B1250 left and right, yet you've never even seen one except for pictures.
What are your motives in doing this, anyway? Please explain yourself, or desist in this childish behaviour.
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You know there isn't much worse! Than two of us old farts tryin to fight like we were 19 again!! Its down rite embarrassing!
Thank you Daytona..... you are very correct - this is embarrassing to everyone on the board.
Gunner - I respect your right to have opinions and beliefs.... that's what makes for different points of view to be shared. I also know how you feel about the new Bandit model coming out - we all do by now and unless you can start adding anything else constructive (notice I didn't say positive or negative) to the new Bandit converstion.... WE GET IT ALREADY. No need to constantly repeat your dislike of this platform.
Zen - Get your bike... ride the crap out of it and give us all some feedback. Many (even those not in the market) of us are anxious to hear opinions based on real world observations. In the meantime.... chill out and let things go a bit - isn't that what Zen is all about anyway??? Responding to every real or perceived slight is not necessary. Let the mods and admins take care of board violations.
There are very few rules on this board and we want to keep it that way. Good natured ribbing is allowed and to a degree encouraged. Personal attacks will not be permitted and if anyone can't abide by that they will be dealt with accordingly. Once again - several members are getting tired of this constant B.S. over and over... shows over - everyone move along.
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txbanditrydr wrote:
There are very few rules on this board and we want to keep it that way. Good natured ribbing is allowed and to a degree encouraged. Personal attacks will not be permitted and if anyone can't abide by that they will be dealt with accordingly. Once again - several members are getting tired of this constant B.S. over and over... shows over - everyone move along.
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Right on brothers :beers: . Move on, this issue's been beat to death. (No responses required.) :bigok: