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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: mademiriam on February 19, 2008, 11:25:34 AM

Title: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: mademiriam on February 19, 2008, 11:25:34 AM
Somebody locally has an 82 GPZ 550 for sale...with three parts bikes. Now really I know I should not do this, I have the bandit, and even though I have very fond memories of the GPZ I owned I know I'd barely ride it. BUT the possibilities! With all those spares there is bound to be a track bike in there somewhere. I'd love to take the Bandit on the track, but in the end...I'd love to have something I don't care about as much on the track. So all things considered I haven't managed to talk myself out of it yet, so who knows may have another toy to tinker with as the Bandit should be ready for another season with just a few minor changes.
Which makes me wonder, have any of you given in to such fancies?
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: Red01 on February 19, 2008, 01:33:00 PM
I've often debated getting another RD350 - like I had in my youth. I'm pretty sure I've convinced myself it's better to leave it as a fond memory - but who knows, if the right one came around, I might change my mind.
(Especially if it was THE same bike.)

If you're looking for a track toy, I'd think you'd want something a little more modern and better - unless you wanna run Vintage.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: smooth operator on February 19, 2008, 01:40:49 PM
  I'm hoping to still pick up my Dad's old Triumph/Rickman,maybe in the summer some time. It wouldn't be a track bike,but would be waring knobbies like it always did. I'd have to have the frame nickel coated again. And it would surly be a project. But one worth taking on. As far as a track bike, I'm with red, something newer. A sv650 is  good track bike,but there are others as well.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: mademiriam on February 19, 2008, 02:53:04 PM
The tracks out here are limited...as in there is ONE! I wouldn't mind running vintage at all, i may be on a bandit everyday but I think for me that was middle ground, needed something to run with the boys and love the 'dinosaur' engineering. I'm slowly warming up to other newer bikes, mostly because they are fast (always a redeeming quality especially when they get to blow by you at 300 with your needle stuck buried at 260) and who could turn down a desmosedici?
In all seriousness I think I'll either run vintage for a year or two and drop the pipe dream...or go all in. Ideally even now I'd like to run an early 90's GSXR 750/600 or SV but then the GPZ is the granddaddy of the 600 class there is some respect given to elders. It comes down to price, I am not in to bikes to make money even though sometimes I do. In this case I most certainly would, and have a bundle of fun at the same time.
My boyfriend loves the idea (strangely), so we go look at them tonight...
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: Have Blue on February 19, 2008, 09:49:01 PM
I always have at least one project older bike.  I have a soft spot for the 78 through 85 GS Suzuki's.  Regardless of what you intend to do with the bike, you must enjoy wrenching if
you're going to go the project/older bike route.  If you do, it will be fun no matter what it is.
In that case, its a great idea.
Title: GS Suzukis
Post by: Red01 on February 20, 2008, 01:57:34 PM
I have a soft spot for the 78 through 85 GS Suzuki's.

 :shock: What's wrong with the '77 GS Suzukis?
Title: Re: GS Suzukis
Post by: rkfire on February 20, 2008, 02:56:11 PM
I have a soft spot for the 78 through 85 GS Suzuki's.

 :shock: What's wrong with the '77 GS Suzukis?

Simple. There wasn't any 1000cc or bigger until 78.
Title: Re: GS Suzukis
Post by: Red01 on February 20, 2008, 03:37:58 PM
I have a soft spot for the 78 through 85 GS Suzuki's.

 :shock: What's wrong with the '77 GS Suzukis?

Simple. There wasn't any 1000cc or bigger until 78.

Ahhh! So your soft spot is not for the GS in general, but only for GS1000's then.  :stickpoke:  :lol:

Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: rkfire on February 20, 2008, 03:47:57 PM
Well, I think the 550's and 750's just wouldn't be worth the effort and money to either buy restored, or to restore. Naturally that's a different purpose than what was proposed here. I'll take a 78 GS1000, a Wes Cooley 1000, or 83 1100 any day.

With one exception, I still think the GS550M is one of the best looking bikes ever made. If I found one of those in nice shape, I'd buy it in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: Red01 on February 20, 2008, 04:00:26 PM
Well, a '77 may be worthwhile someday, since it's the first year of Suzuki 4-strokes.  If one wanted to race a vintage class where the size mattered, the smaller ones might make since, too.

As for the GS550M, I didn't recognize it by the model code, so I looked it up and found (as I suspected) it was the 550 Katana:

(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1982/1982_GS550-Katana_450.jpg)

With only 1153 made, the XN85 turbo bike would be a non-1000cc GS worth something.  :wink:

(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/suzuki-history/1982/1982_XN85_Turbo_450.jpg)
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: mademiriam on February 20, 2008, 05:18:27 PM
Who doesn't have a soft spot for the old GS!
I agree I think a gs550 would be great to race vintage.
Title: Re: GS Suzukis
Post by: Have Blue on February 21, 2008, 12:44:31 AM

Although I've had almost every GS except shaft drive models, I prefer the 1000, 1100 and 1150, so my projects are usually those three.  At present, I'm putting together an 84 450 that fell in my lap, with only 4k miles on it and needing a home.  :-)  I guess I felt sorry for the little thing.  heh  After so many miles on liter + bikes, its feels like a pocket bike.  :-)

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 :shock: What's wrong with the '77 GS Suzukis?
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Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: solman on February 21, 2008, 02:47:41 AM
I have an old bike and love it.  My old project bike is a Honda CB900F.  One thing nice about having an older bike is that it makes the Bandit faster.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: mademiriam on February 21, 2008, 04:24:27 AM
Went to look at the bikes. Pretty much as I had anticipated with a few surprises, for the right price I've managed to jutify buying them to myself. Now only have to find somebody with a truck or hitch thats available and agree on price with the seller... If they sell before it all falls in place there will be others. I certainly think i will eventually buy something old to wrench on.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: LowRyter on February 21, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
I had a 1981 Yamaha Seca 550, pearl white, red stripes, bikini fairing....
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: gunzip on February 21, 2008, 09:04:56 PM
while we are fondly remembering.... 83 gs1100e .... always wanted one, one of suzuki's all time best
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: smooth operator on February 22, 2008, 12:07:10 PM
 A GS500 would be a good choice,there a group called the GS possie that races them.Easy on tires,not too much weight. You would just have to see what your options are for suspension, you could make rearsets.
 :beers: Theres a 86 VFR at my buddys shop that I could make into a racer. But funds will be going elsewhere. I hope to build a pole barn this year.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: redbandit12 on February 22, 2008, 01:52:24 PM
sorry guys my true color comes out. go with the GPz it will out turn a gs any day. how do i know i own at least 1 size GPz that came here. yes i have a 305 GPz. did somebody say something about a TURBO! the xn85 is a cool bike and there ain't whole lot of them out there BUT nothing bets a GPz750 turbo. kinda like the bandit when the boost comes on. really fun to ride on cool days like somebody added another 50 hp. anyway buy the GPz way more parts out there for them and if u go vintage i think u can stuff a 750 motor in it
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: gunzip on February 22, 2008, 02:18:57 PM
i always liked the gpz's myself, especially the 1100 eddie lawson replica . Probably would have bought a zrx1200 if I had found one , love the retro looks
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: redbandit12 on February 23, 2008, 06:50:17 AM
bro-in-law has an Eddie Lawson he bought new back in the day. it's got like 2500 miles on it. i have seen him turn down 10,000 bucks for it !! when the first zrx1100 came out he got one to match his elr but sadly it didn't last long a blue hair got it one morning on his way home from work. now he has zrx1200 he got cheap from a kid who couldn't handle the power. i never liked the 1200 as much as the 1100 feels huge when u ride it that's 1 reason i got the bandit and we have this friendly competition going on between us and it's been like that since we were teenager's even before we met the sisters. his first street bike 70 H1 my first street bike 74 H2 and so it goes
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: Red01 on February 23, 2008, 03:55:08 PM
I never knew there was any significant difference between the ZRX1100 & 1200 - besides cc's.
Spec sheets (http://www.zrxoa.org/webpages/generalinfo/factoryspecs/factoryspecs.html) read nearly identical.  Perhaps it's the 1200's 10mm wider rear tire that makes the difference?
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: mademiriam on February 25, 2008, 11:38:02 AM
Well I may have found my track bike 97 Kawasaki 600... won't stop me from closing a deal on the GPZ 550, but there is a chance  :motorsmile: yes thats right I may just buy both...the living room isn't big enough to store all of them  :shock:...there will be problems.
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: Red01 on February 25, 2008, 04:41:07 PM
Push the bed against one wall and there may be enough room to put the bike on the other side.  Just get in & out of bed at the foot.  :wink:
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: gsxr400 racer on February 25, 2008, 06:33:06 PM
I've often debated getting another RD350 - like I had in my youth. I'm pretty sure I've convinced myself it's better to leave it as a fond memory - but who knows, if the right one came around, I might change my mind.
(Especially if it was THE same bike.)

If you're looking for a track toy, I'd think you'd want something a little more modern and better - unless you wanna run Vintage.

SWEEEETTT.......
Title: Re: Buying a project bike (non bandit) tell me it's a bad idea
Post by: ippo on February 26, 2008, 11:50:05 AM
I never knew there was any significant difference between the ZRX1100 & 1200 - besides cc's.
Spec sheets (http://www.zrxoa.org/webpages/generalinfo/factoryspecs/factoryspecs.html) read nearly identical.  Perhaps it's the 1200's 10mm wider rear tire that makes the difference?
I have seen this:
1100cc  1997-1998 106hp 98Nm
1200  2000-           122hp 112Nm