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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: snofrog on September 05, 2005, 12:51:59 AM
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did my n territorial rd loop tonight 130 miles port to port great time except coming down out of chelsea . road is wide open in front of me and a car flies up on my rear and sits Right on my rear (how close you ask ? i can only see one headlight in each of my mirrors ? i`m doing 60 on the speedo (in reality prolly close to double nickle) well i didnt even downshift i just roll it up to 70 and back down in an effort to put a little room between this car and me well the car does the same thing and is right back on my arse but this time i notice a cherry on top of the car and realize whats going on i just shake my head and slow down 45 or so and wave this guy on past well he just slows down and turns around seems to me there were plenty enough speeders on the road without trying to drum up more buissiness . man am i &^%$%^@@@ mad
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if you are a cop ,this story/event is not about you .nor am i trying to unload on you as a cop .unless you are the Ahole i`m refering to in this story/event in wich case i hope the years of holding a radar gun in your lap makes your berrys fall off.
thank goodness i was alone ,had i been with my riding bud`s he prolly would of had a reason to mess with us.
has anyone else had something like this happen or is it just me . Mark
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Man that cop is one sick son of a bitch!!!! And I hope his berrys fall of too he deserves it after that.
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I know what your saying bloke, I hate it when joe bogbreath does it (Tailgating ) but when cops do it to raise revenue, I really get pissed off.
It has happened to me over the years but only a couple of times. Me I just pull over, they either bugger off or cop a mouthfull. And when I say a mouthfull, I do not mean a mouthfull of abuse. I demand their rank, (Like its hard to tell , but for the record ) serial number, again its in plain view, ( well it is in this state of oz ) station that he is serving, his/her officer incharge. Now after that they know your pissed, And tell the idiot that your reporting him to a higher authority. Nothing against cops, but when they are to bloody lazy to find real offenders, or think they can bully people into offending, they need to be run out of the force. And I think even most real cops would think that too.
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Having 'socialised' with (read got really drunk with) a number of our friends in blue I can honestly say that NONE of the cops I know personally would do that sort of thing. But, funny thing is they're the ones that have warned me of other cops that do. Even to the point of telling me where they hide, what shifts they do, and the rego of the car they usually drive.
Unfortunately, it's a minority of jack prick, bastard cops, that give the rest of them a really shitty name.
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He could be running your tag, or waiting to see if you're willing to do something stupid.
I don't like to be tailgated by anyone.....cops included.
If the guy is following you that closely, and making you nervous, find a public place to pull off....use a turn signal.....then if he whips in behind you...aks him what the hell he wants and why he thinks he has the right to endanger your life by riding your arse?
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I'm a cop, and I can say there are bad apples in my profession; just like in EVERY profession.
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Fake, seriously, I've driven a LOT, in all states, and really support the police. (I'm not a crook, I don't feel guilty when I see them...)
I have noticed a lot of cops tailgating. Probably close to the percentage of average motorists who tailgate. Maybe there's some 'patrol function' to this, but it sure makes you notice the car behind you is tailgating, when it's a cop.
It's kind of the same effect a big truck has when it tailgates...except the cop car doesn't fill up all of your mirrors, rear window, etc.......but you 'notice' it quicker, and remember it! :shock:
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Fake, seriously, I've driven a LOT, in all states, and really support the police. (I'm not a crook, I don't feel guilty when I see them...)
I have noticed a lot of cops tailgating. Probably close to the percentage of average motorists who tailgate. Maybe there's some 'patrol function' to this, but it sure makes you notice the car behind you is tailgating, when it's a cop.
It's kind of the same effect a big truck has when it tailgates...except the cop car doesn't fill up all of your mirrors, rear window, etc.......but you 'notice' it quicker, and remember it! :shock:
believe me Pete... this cop filled MY mirrors . at one point his headlights were hitting the ground in front of me :shock: at one point before i realized who it was i almost clicked a couple of gears to put an end to it . GLAD i didnt
btw this was in the middle of bfe .there is no place public enough to pull over comfortably
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Doesn't have to be a public place, anyplace wide enough for you to pull over and let them go by will do when you're in the middle of BFE.
Had a deputy do the same thing to me just a few days ago. He'd been following me at a safe distance for a mile or so, but when the speed limit dropped from 50 to 35, he was on me like flies on cow pies. In this instance, there was a business to pull into, so I did, and he went on by... but I was prepared to tell what I thought of him tailgating a motorcycle that can stop much faster than he can.
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I was suggesting a 'public' place, since you may be somewhat irate, but would inform the cop what he was doing 'civilly', I hope.
It migh be nice to have witnesses that you weren't screaming, or making aggressive motions.
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True! And I agree, but if such a place is not handy, best to get off the road and let him go, or see what he wants.
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Doesn't have to be a public place, anyplace wide enough for you to pull over and let them go by will do when you're in the middle of BFE.
thats what i did... slowed gave them the go around wave when they just dropped back and did a uie . i`m still miffed .
Fake ...i know all cops arent like this and that`s the reason for the disclaimer in the original post. but if you choose you can bitch about some tool and die welders and we can call it even :beers: .M
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Dunno, snofrog...
Maybe they had a report of an escaped criminal riding a pink harley in your area.....and they were trying to figure out if you were close enough.... :duh:
Once, 30 years ( :shock: ) ago, I was walking to work at a gas station I worked at. It wasn't a really bad area, but not 'nice'.
It was mid afternoon, daylight, and I felt something was following me.
I turned around, and saw one of the local city unmarked cars with two detectives in it.
They rolled along the curb, about 150 feet behind me, and I kept walking.
This went on for a couple of blocks, and I KNEW I didn't do anything!
I was a couple of blocks from work, but figured I'd see if they were following me, so I took a right on a side street that had a building close to the corner, and broke into a sprint for like 5 steps and dodged around the corner....just far enough to be out of sight briefly.
They gunned the car as soon as I broke into my little sprint, and I knew it was ME they wanted. I stopped, and waited for the car to stop. :wtf:
They came out and asked for some ID. I showed them my license.
I asked them what they wanted, and they said something about a liqour store being held up a few blocks away, and that was it.
Later that night, one of the uniformed cops stopped in who bought cigs regularily at the station, and I asked about the liqour store that was stuck up.
He told me the guy got away, and they were looking for a BLACK guy, 30's, 5'9-5'10.
Wow. I can see how the detectives could be confused. I guess a white guy, with long hair, 6'7".........looks a heck of a lot like a 5'10" black guy in broad daylight! :duh:
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Kinda getting off track there Pete,
But as we are going off track, same sought of thing happened to me about 20 odd years back, 2 young wannabe cops, both wanna take down a big tough bikie. Stupid little boys, followed me every night for a week.
I would get home in the early evening leash up my two english bull terriers, and walk a half mile to the local shops for milk, bread, and shyte to that effect, I finally cracked it and beckoned the 2 little boys in blue to come up to me. I asked "WTF they thought they where doing and did they not have something better to do". They inturn answered, " that they where consernded for my safety, as bikie wars had been, esculating"
A very quick demo of dog control, had them both back pedalling, both dogs, responded to non verbal commands, perfectly and stood down, just as well. needless to say my personal safety was no longer an issue they need to pursue.
But the story dont stop there, at the time I had a government job therefore I worked a 9 day fortnight. On my rostered day off, I walked to the local rail station and caught a train into the city, to buy some new parts for my then Hardly Dangerous. Any way to cut a long story short on my return the 2 little boys in blue, greeted me with some beautiful braclets, and bundled into the rear of the cop car. hmm I am under arrest for armed robbery. Nice one boys. When? at 9.30 am. hmm got a receipt in me pocket that says I was in the bike shop 18 miles away at 9.35. hmmmm. " Are you sure it was me lads?". "Yep got you, you lowlife bikie scum". Hmmmm "ok then lets go down the station then, cause I'm gonna have both you 2 idiots with a size 10 boot up your ass before the days end". Yep the look on thier dials when the senior sargent, landed his boot up thier collective butts, was priceless. Needless to say 2 little boys in blue found something better to do. :banana: :banana: :banana:
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Mick, I guess we just look like scum...... :lol:
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Mick, I guess we just look like scum...... :lol:
Thats a bit harsh Pete, 20 years ago, me look like scum. :wink:
With my fine head of hair, yeh ok it was half way down my back. :stickpoke:
With that fine growth of hair on my face. yeh ok it was half way down to my belly. but it was always well kept. No tomorrows breakfast kept in my growth. :stickpoke: I rode a loud, ok very loud hardly dangerous :motorsmile: . How could I possibly mistaken for scum?. jeez :duh:
Must be them helmet things they make us wear, 'All you scumbag bikies look the same" :duh: :shock: :shock:
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Must be them helmet things they make us wear, 'All you scumbag bikies look the same"
Ya know I think you might be on to something - A friend of mine, who up until last week, had only seen me in my 'work gear' (dress shoes, trousers, business shirt and tie) was quite taken back when she saw me picking up one of the kids from soccer training - on the bike - dressed in bike boots, jeans, leather jacket, leather vest, black helmet (complete with tinted visor).
Her first comment was "Christ.....you scared the hell out of me"
Her second comment was "I didn't know you were a bikie"
These were both said as she slowly stepped away.
After a little education she now realises that not everyone who rides a bike wants to rape, pillage and plunder - we only do that every second weekend :lol: :lol:
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Funny you should say that Mick.
While out couriering today, with Bandit the dog on the tank, a nice looking lady, said almost the same thing. Something like, "you looked mean, tough, and nasty, till I seen your little mate on the tank, now you look like a big softy" Now I am confused. :toofunny:
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I gotta throw my $.o2 in....I think ya'll got it right at the beginning; cops are people. The trend over the past few years if for people to tailgate more, hence cops do too. They probably do it on their off time just like everyone else. I understand what ya'll are talking about, but occassionally try to read some of these new designer tags....if the cop is over 30 he likely needs to pull up way too close to be able to read the dang things! No excuse for the others, though. :boohoo:
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A family friend up in Michigan got pulled over after a cop tailgated him with his bright lights on until he sped up.
Being an ornary cuss, he fought the ticket and ended up going to court. Funny thing is, the cop was still doing the same old trick late at night... guess who he pulled over next?
Thats right! The -JUDGE-! :duh:
Case dismissed, cop disciplined. :toofunny:
Honestly though, my experiances with cops have mostly been good. I've been pulled over five times in 10 years and really have no complaints. My family has a history of law enforcement and fire fighting, though, so I try to be as respectful as possible whenever I encounter one or the other.
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I grew up in a small beach town that was pretty dead at night during the winter, had one main access road.....and after midnight, maybe one car an hour passing through. They also had one cop on duty, who was pretty bored. This was an island, and only one way in/out. The cop would sit by the bridge and wait for a car to cross onto the island, and tailgate you all the way home....EVEN THOUGH the population was low enough during the winter you KNEW everybody, and even I could recognize everybodys car.......
Later, when I was older, my brothers and I had paper routes we did int he morning from a car. He'd tailgate us.....
Eventually, a couple of people complained to the chief, but nothing was done. This jerk would be a foot or two off your arse for a couple of miles.
After he ran into the SECOND citizen who'd had enough, and stood on his brakes.....the cop vanished........to be replaced by another winner who would shoot at drunk teenagers who would try to outrun him on foot!
Law Enforcement, thankfully, has come a long way in 40 years.....
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Law Enforcement, thankfully, has come a long way in 40 years.....
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Gotta agree with that.
Thankfully I must admit most cops I've meet are human, its like the old motorcyclist saying, "when we do right no one remembers but when do wrong no one forgets". Funny how a couple of bad apples stuffs the whole barrel. In fact I've meet a few cops that could not have gone out off their way more, to help us out :grin: :grin: . But maybe it was their way of getting us outta town that little bit quicker :toofunny:
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Damn Cops!
Unfortunately, some of us are just dicks. The percentage of dicks in uniform is probably about the same as dick out of uniform. The big difference is that the uniformed dick is harder to forget.
Most of us drive like A-holes. We learn quickly that the only way to get anywhere in a short enough time to keep our poor beloved citizens and revered bosses from bitching at us for taking too long is to drive agressively. Of course they also spank the snot out of us when we screw up and crash. Once we get the habit of driving hard it never goes away. Heavy right foot or over active right wrist anyone?
Some of us need to get close to read a license plate. Most of us have also learned that getting close is a good way of giving some doper mope out looking to steal some honest citizen's stuff a case of the fever which causes him to do something stupid enough to justify stopping him so that at least he's not stealing for the next hour because he's still twitchy over the cops jamming him up. Some of us just jam up normal people because we are dicks.
All of us "profile". Some of us are better at it than others and get it right more often than not. Those of us with brains keep it on the polite side until we know for sure that we have caught us a real mope so that we can dust off and send on their way with minimal fuss, any good citizens who we mistakenly misread. Those of us who get it more wrong than right are dicks.
Many of us are just regular folks who have been taught by our fellow man to hate our fellow man because we get the pleasure of cleaning up his crap on a regular basis. Some of us are just dicks.
Most of us could give a rats a$$ about revenue because we don't see any of it. The county takes its cut, the court takes its cut and my city might just get a few bucks per ticket that go towards paving the street. No one gives me a toaster if I write a whole bunch of tickets. In fact, chances are your court appearance screwed up my day off. Those of us who do care about revenue generation fall firmly in to the dicks looking to become administrators category.
Most of us really do believe that it ain't personal, its just business. Those of us who don't are dicks.
Most of us will happily sit down over a beer with anyone who isn't a dick and bitch about how screwed up the government is. Those of us who won't are dicks.
Now I'm going to quit my bitching, sign off, leave my brass pass and gat on the dresser, speed down the nearest boulevard and hope I don't get pulled over by some dick. :beers:
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Damn Cops!
Unfortunately, some of us are just dicks. The percentage of dicks in uniform is probably about the same as dick out of uniform. The big difference is that the uniformed dick is harder to forget.
Most of us drive like A-holes. We learn quickly that the only way to get anywhere in a short enough time to keep our poor beloved citizens and revered bosses from bitching at us for taking too long is to drive agressively. Of course they also spank the snot out of us when we screw up and crash. Once we get the habit of driving hard it never goes away. Heavy right foot or over active right wrist anyone?
Some of us need to get close to read a license plate. Most of us have also learned that getting close is a good way of giving some doper mope out looking to steal some honest citizen's stuff a case of the fever which causes him to do something stupid enough to justify stopping him so that at least he's not stealing for the next hour because he's still twitchy over the cops jamming him up. Some of us just jam up normal people because we are dicks.
All of us "profile". Some of us are better at it than others and get it right more often than not. Those of us with brains keep it on the polite side until we know for sure that we have caught us a real mope so that we can dust off and send on their way with minimal fuss, any good citizens who we mistakenly misread. Those of us who get it more wrong than right are dicks.
Many of us are just regular folks who have been taught by our fellow man to hate our fellow man because we get the pleasure of cleaning up his crap on a regular basis. Some of us are just dicks.
Most of us could give a rats a$$ about revenue because we don't see any of it. The county takes its cut, the court takes its cut and my city might just get a few bucks per ticket that go towards paving the street. No one gives me a toaster if I write a whole bunch of tickets. In fact, chances are your court appearance screwed up my day off. Those of us who do care about revenue generation fall firmly in to the dicks looking to become administrators category.
Most of us really do believe that it ain't personal, its just business. Those of us who don't are dicks.
Most of us will happily sit down over a beer with anyone who isn't a dick and bitch about how screwed up the government is. Those of us who won't are dicks.
Now I'm going to quit my bitching, sign off, leave my brass pass and gat on the dresser, speed down the nearest boulevard and hope I don't get pulled over by some dick. :beers:
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see what I mean quick give the man a beer :beers:
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I've had a Ranger in a old raggedy looking SUV pull over to the right as if he was moving over to let us pass. Both my riding buddy and myself pass him. It was on double yellow line, but he was going slow and pulling over so we obliged. He ticketed us both.
Warren
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Nice thing to do to a tailgater - just slow down, WAY down.
Then if they do try to overtake (if it's NOT a police car), drop 2 gears and soar! hahaha