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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 02:07:18 AM

Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 02:07:18 AM
Do any of these look like issues that may be "common" on the bike?

Right cylinder
(http://www.coustier.com/andy2.jpg)

Left cylinder
(http://www.coustier.com/andy6.jpg)

Bottom end:
(http://www.coustier.com/andy3.jpg)
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 02:07:55 AM
We'll just ignore the missing motor mount screw on the last pic.
 :shock:
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: scooter69 on April 07, 2006, 05:09:53 AM
Oil pan gasket & valve cover gasket...

Nothing too serious as long as you're watching the oil and don't redline it everytime.

Look into having these changed when you can. Gaskets are cheap...just your time that's expensive.

Have fun.... :beers:
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: scooter69 on April 07, 2006, 05:11:28 AM
Quote from: "curiousmike"
We'll just ignore the missing motor mount screw on the last pic.
 :shock:

I don't know which missing bolts you're talking about. The only empty holes I see are on the frame which are normal mounts for crash bars.
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: Bob Holland on April 07, 2006, 09:35:39 AM
You may already know, but just to make sure, the bolts that hold the valve cover on go into the alumium cam caps and will strip out very easily.
Invest in a decent "inch pound torque wrench", it will save you a lot of heartaches :beers:
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: Red01 on April 07, 2006, 11:04:33 AM
The left & right pics look like bad rubber gaskets under the cover bolts.

The bottom end could be the pan gasket, as mentioned, but could also be an oil cooler line(s) banjo washer gone bad.
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: "scooter69"
Quote from: "curiousmike"
We'll just ignore the missing motor mount screw on the last pic.
 :shock:

I don't know which missing bolts you're talking about. The only empty holes I see are on the frame which are normal mounts for crash bars.


In the top right of the last pic, there is a bolt missing.  (Not the bottom of the frame, but the side.)

It appears that there's a triangle bracket that attaches to the motor that then attaches to the frame.

Looking at bikebandit.com, it appeared that those two bolts were necessary.
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 02:20:59 PM
BTW, thanks everyone for the info.
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: Red01 on April 07, 2006, 04:30:54 PM
Yup, #10 in this pic:
(Not clear in this pic, but the RH side should have 2, just like the left.)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d35/paulweit/Bandit%20Alley/frame_model_k1.jpg)
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 05:35:08 PM
Yep; my bikebandit ordered arrived yesterday and I installed the bolts after taking the oil leak photos.

Of course, I failed to order #11 caps...  :shock:
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: curiousmike on April 07, 2006, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: "Red01"
The left & right pics look like bad rubber gaskets under the cover bolts.


Do you mean #7 in this photo?

(http://www.bikebandit.com/PartsBandit/Assets/schematics/Suzuki/SU0321_002.gif)
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: Red01 on April 08, 2006, 10:03:15 AM
Yes! Those are the jewels. :bigok:

It has always puzzled me why Suzuki has never produced a p/n for a valve cover kit that includes all the gaskets/seals disturbed during a valve cover R&R. Such a kit should include (from the pic in the post above) #'s one of 2, two each of 3 & 4, eight of 7, four (or six) of 10, one of 13 and the two O-rings for the oil lines on the rear of the valve cover, which is #10 below.
(Oddly enough it's found under the "Cylinder" breakdown, even though it doesn't attach to the cylinder block anywhere).

(http://www.bikebandit.com/PartsBandit/Assets/schematics/Suzuki/SU0114_005.gif)
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: jeepskate99 on April 08, 2006, 07:11:35 PM
The bottom end may just be "oil change wounds".  Mine was like that but it never left a drop anywhere.  So I hit it with Brakleen and got i all off.  Never had another bit of oil there until after the next oil change.  Turns out it's just a build-up fromt he little bit that leaks when the filter comes off blowing back.  At least on mine.
Title: Diagnose my 3 oil leaks.
Post by: Daytona on April 09, 2006, 01:30:39 PM
The leaks/shmeg you are showing looks like its build up from time! Do you ever clean it? Don't use brake clean on any of painted or coated stuff! its serious stuff that does more damage than good! Gunk eng degreaser is the best, safest stuff i found. After a good soaking and drenching with water drown it in Armourall to get it looking good again. Also if the oil is a bit over the full mark is worse than under a bit! Over just a pint will cause leaks where there isn't @ the proper level!   :stickpoke: