Bandit Alley
GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: B6Matt on April 26, 2005, 10:25:54 PM
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Burning bike (R1) on the Dragon a couple of weeks ago! Check out the molten aluminum!
(http://ftp://banditalley:bandito@66.155.114.22/B6Matt/burningbike.jpg)
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Yikes!!!!!
NOT good..... :sad:
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HOLY S**T !!!!!! :shock:
Does any one know what happened to the rider????
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Don't those things have some magnesium on board, too?
Can't put that stuff out if it starts to burn. Best you can hope for is containment until it burns itself out.
The Ti can seems to be holding up pretty good.
FWIW - melting point of (pure) aluminum is 1223*F
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The rider injured his knee pretty badly. Witnesses reported seeing some bone thru the gash.
I guess if you knock a hole in the tank and gas spills onto the header, flames are likely to ensue.
I don't know if they have magnesium on board. I know that elemental magnesium burns white, hot and fast (high school chemistry.)
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I think that same weekend there were like 5 people airlifted outta there :sad: There's probably gonna be so much law enforcement up there by the time I make it up, it's gonna be very unenjoyable.
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Go to the Dragon on a weekday to ride. Those morons can also kill or injure you on the weekend.
If you want to go on a weekend to watch the carnage.....do it in something like a '68 Caddy!!!
There are less cops on weekdays, also.
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Yeah, the LEOs are thick on the weekends, especially since there has been a rash of wrecks the past few weekends. They hand out "coupons" en masse.
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Anyone else notice the condition of the rear tire.
I'm guessing the owner is a burnout squid king. You have no business on a road like that with a tire like that. No wonder he crashed.
No sympathy from me. :roll:
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Anyone else notice the condition of the rear tire.
I'm guessing the owner is a burnout squid king. You have no business on a road like that with a tire like that. No wonder he crashed.
No sympathy from me. :roll:
I was thinking the same thing. Are those cords showing through?????
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I think that same weekend there were like 5 people airlifted outta there :sad: There's probably gonna be so much law enforcement up there by the time I make it up, it's gonna be very unenjoyable.
When I had my crash up there last May and was laying on a table in the ER in Ashville NC, I was told that I was there 12th customer that weekend (I was there on Sunday). In fact, I had been in there the day before my wreck helping a buddy (and his wife) deal with his wreck. I'm not sure what the total was at that point but lets just say that a lot of riders go in and out of that place for doing stupid shit (me included). Busted colar bone for me (highside and crashed into a fence) but I could have been dead. My buddy went off the road and hit a chicken coup. He doesn't remember much of it, however.
Complete insanity! I'm 45 and need to act my age! :duh:
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Complete insanity! I'm 45 and need to act my age! :duh:
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And THAT is why you made the decision to turn back last weekend.... smart move and I appreciate it. :thanks:
The radar was rather ugly when we got back. :shock:
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Complete insanity! I'm 45 and need to act my age! :duh:
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And THAT is why you made the decision to turn back last weekend.... smart move and I appreciate it. :thanks:
The radar was rather ugly when we got back. :shock:
Yeah it was and I'm glad we did turn back Jay. I won't PURPOSELY ride in the rain anymore. That IS one lesson I learned from my previous two accidents. The second lesson is even more important..... I have found thats its very easy to get caught-up in a group riding mentality when you STOP doing what YOU THINK you should be doing and START doing what OTHERS THINK you should be doing.... Don't go there!
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heh-heh
I hit a magnesium transmission with a full straight stream off of an inch and a half line one night. It blew like a firecracker. :grin:
I think some powdered extinguishers will put magnesium out.
That is EXACTLY the reason I don't do "The Dragon": Too many idiots make it unsafe, IMO. I'll wind up there one day, but it'll be a weekday . . . when I can ride it at MY pace, safely.
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I haven't been thru a firefighter's class in several years, but the last time I did, there wasn't anything that could put out a magnesium fire. Mostly because once ignited, it provides its own oxygen. The powdered extinguishers, such as PKP, merely contain it from spreading to non-magnesium parts. One thing for certain, you don't want to use water on it - you'll just be fueling it.
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If there was magesium in this fire, I think it is long burnt. It produces an incredibly bright light which isn't showing. You guys are right... it is hard to extinguish. It yanks the O2 right out of water to burn and produces free hydrogen which will burn explosively when ignited in air. There was a large plant here in Peterboro which used to cast magnesium for outboard motors, chainsaws and snowmobiles. Fires were quite common and they had their own fire crew. They had some sort of special sand that they covered it in to put it out, (so the story goes). They also used a lot of Acetone and other super inflamables. When the wind blew in the right direnction it smelled like a glue sniffers convention. Their insurance agent must have been a basket case. The factory is now vacant and the land worth less than zero because a lot of these solvents are in the soil. :sad:
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I remember burning strips of magnesium in high school Chemistry class. Mainly to see how volatile it is and how bright it burns... like the sun!
Check out this link on magnesium fire training: http://www.ci.troy.mi.us/fire/photos/show.asp?dir=Magnesium%20Training
(http://www.burningart.com/meico/pyro/magfire.jpg)
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Speaking of "hot" bikes... here's a 1G Bandit:
(http://home.comcast.net/~madmax96/burned1200.jpg)