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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: amboman on March 29, 2006, 12:45:28 PM
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How are the prices for fuel where you are. In gods own New Zealand we are now paying $ 1.58 a litre for premium. Roughly I think that works out to be about, $ 3.75 us per gallon. The B12 runs on 91 octane and the best price for that is $1.52 per litre. Man is it geting tough to keep the wheels turning.
I run desiel vehicles for day to day use and it now costs $ 1.17 per litre. :crybaby:
Without any unplanned trips It is costing us $250.oo nz for 2 weeks travel costs, you know work and back, drop off and pick kids up from school.
Am I being anal or is everybody else finding it tough going paying these inflated fuel prices.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts. :thanks:
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Well across the world in Quebec, Canada we're paying $1.069/L right now. The exchange and conversion come out to about the same...$3.75US/Gallon.
I feel so bad for everyone in the US who have to pay $2.45/gallon :boohoo:....ok...maybe not..... better taxes, cheaper gas, nicer roads......yeah....I feel real bad for them about the gas prices... :bigok:
You must do A LOT of traveling to rack up $250 is gas every 2 weeks....here it's roughly $40/wk but that's only 300kms of driving.
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87 Octane in the Bay Area is @ $2.85/gallon.
We'll easily top $3 gallon this summer.
The days of cheap gasoline for the USA are over.
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87 Octane in the Bay Area is @ $2.85/gallon.
We'll easily top $3 gallon this summer.
The days of cheap gasoline for the USA are over.
Still cheaper than anywhere else...
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We're about $2.45 per gallon for regular in the Pacific Northwest. Diesel is running about $2.75 per gallon. I'm lucky I don't have a long commute. We have some really sprawling suburbs so I feel sorry for those people. Some of our school districts are really starting to hurt, running all those buses is killing them. If we get above $3 per gallon its going to start putting the hurt on people.
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Still cheaper than anywhere else is true.
But in the next few years, we're going to be real close to "everywhere else."
The writing is on the wall.
China and India are needing more of the pie than ever, and that's only growing.
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87 Octane in the Bay Area is @ $2.85/gallon.
We'll easily top $3 gallon this summer.
The days of cheap gasoline for the USA are over.
I wish people here in the US would stop throwing that $3 figure around like it's a forgone conclusion. As long as people keep believing stuff like that, the oil companies will keep artificially inflating prices and make $3 a reality. There's no basis for the current prices (which range from $2.43 - $2.65 around here). This crap should be on the front page every day. I know, I know... everyone else in the world looks at it like "oh those stupid, privledged Americans..." Well, we have an economy that presumes, among a bizillion other things, cheap (relatively speaking) gas prices. Between my wife and I, we drive 6-700 miles a week. Gas is already a big part of our budget. The more it goes up, the less we have to spend on other things. It seems to me that our economy want to just scream to life. It is way better than it was a few years ago. These damn gas prices are the single biggest thing holding it back.
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Want cheaper gas !!!
Bring the troops home NOW !!!!! :stop:
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Yeah, right. Bring the troops home and watch the rampant, running amuck terrorists cut loose on their newly found freedom, terrorizing the free Iraqi's, burning the now guarded oil fields. THEN see what happens to our gas prices. NO! bringing the troops home before the job is done is what we did back in the gulf war and look where it got us. Bad idea!! Very bad idea!!!
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Just to change the subjet until we get into a heated political argument here... does anyone know why diesel is more expensive in the US than gasoline? Seems like it should be cheaper, but it's not!
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it's a forgone conclusion
Sorry man. It's the truth.
I wish I could buy a house in the bay area like my parents did and their parents did.
I wish I had a semblance of "job security."
A "pension."
"Social security benefits."
Times a changin'. The USA had a great run of great benefits to it's citizens for 50 years. Now, lets see what the next 50 years bring.
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Yeah, right. Bring the troops home and watch the rampant, running amuck terrorists cut loose on their newly found freedom, terrorizing the free Iraqi's, burning the now guarded oil fields. THEN see what happens to our gas prices. NO! bringing the troops home before the job is done is what we did back in the gulf war and look where it got us. Bad idea!! Very bad idea!!!
Are you quoting CNN.
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Yeah, right. Bring the troops home and watch the rampant, running amuck terrorists cut loose on their newly found freedom, terrorizing the free Iraqi's, burning the now guarded oil fields. THEN see what happens to our gas prices. NO! bringing the troops home before the job is done is what we did back in the gulf war and look where it got us. Bad idea!! Very bad idea!!!
Are you quoting CNN.
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Nah - he made far too much sense for it to have come from CNN.
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it's a forgone conclusion
Sorry man. It's the truth.
I don't buy it. There's no real economic reason for the current prices let alone the annual summer spike. It's just a brilliant marketing campaign by the oil companies - getting everyone to believe the hype/panic - that's gonna backfire on them when the economy goes down the tubes and no one can afford to drive anymore.
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Just to change the subjet until we get into a heated political argument here... does anyone know why diesel is more expensive in the US than gasoline? Seems like it should be cheaper, but it's not!
That's a good question!
(and better than getting into an arguement over where troops should be)
It used to always be cheaper, but it seems with the popularity of diesel pickups, it has crept up over the last few years. First to match Regular gas prices, then Mid-grade and Premium, to where it is now, more expensive than any of them. I've always been under the impression that diesel is the cheapest petro fuel to produce. Maybe one of the members here that have worked in this field can help clarify.
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Ever notice how the prices seem to drop a few cents on mondays....then rise again on wed-thurs?? funny how the price is high when we all get paid.....
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Its greed pure and simple, wether you belive the president or his " people"
or if you are for or against whats going on over there. I just happen to belive that the budget for the war and military would have been more than enough for a alternate source to be discovered for fuel for the masses in the USA and what oil we do have could have been to make gas for bikers !!! :beers:
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There's no real economic reason for the current prices let alone the annual summer spike.
That's what the rest of the world has been saying for 75 years.
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Usually, when you buy in volume you get a discount. We buy an enormous amount of oil, gas etc so we should pay less. I will say we are pretty spoiled. Most families have at least 2 cars and a couple gas powered toys. What alot of people don't realize is we do alot for the rest of the world(although sometimes unwelcomed)so we should get a couple perks. Like it or not, our presence in the middle-east IS keeping things from being blown up and getting rid of the Saddams and Bin Ladens of the world. We will probably never leave Iraq just as we never totally left Germany or Japan. I don't really like it but thats how it is. Our government has made so many deals that we can't just do whats right for us. We have to worry about everyone else too. I think Switzerland has the right idea by staying out of everything. Oh well, its still better here than anywhere else. Thats my little rant/skew anyway :beers:
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Usually, when you buy in volume you get a discount.
You know, in China, they say if you're one in a million, there's another million just like you.
We don't know buying in bulk compared to China in the next 10-20 years.
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Speaking of desiel, what about these desiel powered motorcycles. The latest New Zealand motorcycle trader magazine feature an article about one particular make. Havn't read the article yet but apparently fuel consuption figures are given as about 3 lts of desiel per 100kms. That has to be fairly cheap commuting. :banana:
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In the land of Oz it really depends on where you live
In Wagga we're paying around $1.26 for ULP, $1.35 for PULP but go 50k out of town and it's $1.20 or $1.30. Out in the 'sticks', you can pay $1.35 for ULP - they don't advertise the PULP price, that's assuming they even stock it.
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Speaking of desiel, what about these desiel powered motorcycles. The latest New Zealand motorcycle trader magazine feature an article about one particular make. Havn't read the article yet but apparently fuel consuption figures are given as about 3 lts of desiel per 100kms. That has to be fairly cheap commuting. :banana:
There are a few diesel powered bikes available out there. Here's a link with several choices:
http://www.peace65.freeserve.co.uk/Pictures/currentconversions.htm
But they missed one. Perhaps the one most likely to actually be a commercial success, provided they can bring the price to a reasobale level... the HDT D650, based on their M1030 series military diesel powered bikes currently in service with the armed forces of the US, UK & EU.
http://www.m1030.com/
(http://www.m1030.com/images/L_Black_flag.jpg)
This bike isn't going to break any speed records with a 0-60mph time of 10.6 seconds and a top speed in the 90's, but for the rider wanting fuel economy, 102 mpg(US) at 55mph is pretty good! That's about what my '66 Suzuki 80 got @ 35-40 mph (it would have been hard pressed to do 55 mph).
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I've felt the pain of high diesel prices being an owner of a Ford Superduty. The demand has really increased for diesel which has pushed the price up, not to mention having to "clean it up" to reduce sulphur emissions. Whats funny about diesel is the price swings, you can have up to a 30 cent variance from one station to another. Whats also pushed up prices is that petroleum is now a Wall Street investment. Its bought and sold on speculation so a gallon is like a share of stock. Add to this the fact that no additions or upgrades have been made to our refineries since the 70's. Maintenance and down time are on the increase.
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Just out of interest, check out this bad #ss machine.
http://www.neander-motors.com/
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Just out of interest, check out this bad #ss machine.
http://www.neander-motors.com/
68,000 Euros?
I don't think they'll be selling a whole lot of them.
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Not sure of the exchange rate for US Dollar and UK Pound but here in the UK a Litre of Petrol is about £0.95 :crybaby:
It just keeps on going up and up :sad:
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That's 'only' ~£3.61 ($6.31US) for a US gallon.
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As it turns out the feds icreased the excise taxes on diesel to 24.4-27.5 cents per gallon[cpg]. The states followed suit and increased there taxes on diesel as well. Then, of course, there's the local taxes too. All of these government agencies teamed up to put a whopin on all the 3/4 and 1 tonners out there. Over the road haulers took a serious hit as well.
The reason was supposedely to clean up or pay for diesel emissions{ Yeah, right}.
I've found the lowest tax rate seems to be Georgia @ 7.5 cpg for both gasoline and diesel the highest looks to be Penn. @ 31.1 for gasoline and 35.1 for diesel. Add that to the inflated refinery prices and throw in the federal taxes and Boom! we get more expensive diesel fuel. On the plus side, I have job security working for one of the big guys that raked in $36 BILLION in one quarter. Even as an employee it still pisses me off.
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The funny thing about fuel prices and the so called shortages is the fact that all the oil companies are making RECORD profits. We keep being asked to pay more to the oil companies and more in taxes to the goverment (New Zealand). hopfuly all this money is going into looking at alternative fuels etc (yeah right)[/quote]
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How are the prices for fuel where you are. In gods own New Zealand we are now paying $ 1.58 a litre for premium. Roughly I think that works out to be about, $ 3.75 us per gallon. The B12 runs on 91 octane and the best price for that is $1.52 per litre. Man is it geting tough to keep the wheels turning.
I run desiel vehicles for day to day use and it now costs $ 1.17 per litre. :crybaby:
Without any unplanned trips It is costing us $250.oo nz for 2 weeks travel costs, you know work and back, drop off and pick kids up from school.
Am I being anal or is everybody else finding it tough going paying these inflated fuel prices.
I would be interested to hear your thoughts. :thanks:
No mate your not being anal.
We aint as ripped off as much as you guys across the trench, but not too far behind @ $1.36 per litre, for premium.
And yes its hurts the budget, running our own courier van business, thank christ we only clock up 140k's per day. but still thats a $150 per week. If we where doing point to point add hock couriering clocking up 400 k's plus a day we would go broke. As much as I hate LPG the van is getting converted this weekend.