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« on: June 05, 2006, 09:18:43 AM »
Gas-stressed motorists shift from 4 wheels to 2

Cynthia H. Cho
Los Angeles Times
Jun. 2, 2006 11:13 AM


Praktan Kokila and record high gasoline prices arrived in California about the same time this spring.

That's why the Redlands resident was navigating through hundreds of motorcycles in the San Bernardino showroom of Chaparral Motorsports. Fed up with spending $60 a week to fill his Infinity G35 with premium gasoline, Kokila was ready to move from four wheels to two.

Kokila was following friend Mike Devi, who put away his BMW 330i -- now reserved for weekends -- in favor of a black Yamaha sport bike. After four hours of shopping, Kokila rolled out with a blue version of the same cycle, which gets 40 mpg and holds $15 worth of premium fuel at current prices. advertisement  
 
 


"I've wanted one for a while," Kokila, 27, said of the $9,200 motorcycle. "And with the high gas prices, now's a good time."

Steep pump prices are driving motorists to transportation that sips or eschews gasoline, and retailers of motorcycles, scooters and bicycles report that sales are revving up. Although buyers, including Kokila and Devi, aren't ready to dump their cars, many are complaining about fuel bills as they make their purchases, retailers say.

When fuel prices spiked in the third quarter of last year, motorcycle sales jumped 16 percent compared with the same period in 2004, said Motorcycle Industry Council spokesman Mike Mount. . Third-quarter sales of scooters soared 65 percent.

"We can't say for sure that fuel prices were driving that," Mount said. "But it would appear that with the amount of activity and media attention on fuel prices, that it has had some effect."

In the first three months of 2006, motorcycle sales rose 8.6 percent and scooter sales inched up about 2 percent from the year-earlier period. Those numbers show a "strong start to the year," he said, because sales are highest during spring and summer.

At Chaparral Motorsports, whose showroom has row after row of shiny and colorful Hondas, Suzukis, Kawasakis and other makes, sales manager Jon Gerwin said cycles were zooming out the door at a 30 percent faster pace than at this time last year. Motorcycles that get good mileage are the most popular, he said, and many customers say that they're afraid gas will hit $4 a gallon.

Chaparral salesman Eddy Raisch said scooters are popular among young people, especially college students, who leave their cars parked when traveling short distances.

For the maker of Vespa, the iconic retro-chic scooter from Italy, it has been pedal to the metal since last fall, said Paolo Timoni of Piaggio Group Americas, the New York-based subsidiary. .

"Since September 2005, when gas prices first hit $3 a gallon, we have seen acceleration in the market," Timoni said.

Last year, the company sold 10,000 scooters in the U.S. It expects to exceed that by 25 percent to 30 percent this year, he said.

Even the Segway, the battery-powered "human transporter" that was dismissed when it debuted in 2001, has received a boost.

Klee Kleber of Bedford, N.H.-based Segway Inc. said sales through mid-May had doubled from the same period last year. He declined to give sales figures.

"I think a lot of it has to do with gas prices," Kleber said, adding that other factors, such as environmental issues, also influence sales.

Tim Blumenthal of Bikes Belong Coalition, a national group of bicycle suppliers and retailers, said members were seeing customerswho are frustrated over pump prices and looking for alternative transportation, especially for short trips. The coalition plans to launch a marketing campaign in June to encourage people to ride bicycles for trips shorter than two miles.

At Beverly Hills Bike Shop, manager Eric Romney said there had been a "huge increase" in people wanting to buy bicycles to commute to work.

"Once a day, we have someone coming in wanting a bike to ride to work," he said.

Fred Clements of the National Bicycle Dealers Association said gas prices were just one "piece of the puzzle" when it came to sales. But Clements also said his members had reported that more people were bringing in their bicycles for repair.

That is what's happening at nonprofit Bicycle Kitchen in Hollywood where people can rent space to repair their bicycles. Volunteers are on hand to offer guidance and assistance. Although spring weather brings more people to the spot, volunteer Thomas Gotschi said they had been "super busy" lately.

Not everyone is convinced that gas prices are fueling a business bonanza.

Jay Wolff of the six Helen's Cycles locations in Southern California, said he hadn't noticed a change in sales.

"I think that there are just a lot of complaints about gas prices," he said. "I don't think that anybody is replacing their car with a bicycle."

Harley-Davidson motorcycle dealerships in Southern California don't appear to be benefiting from increasing gas prices. Harleys are more expensive than other brands and they don't draw first-time motorcyclists, dealers said.

"This month, I have heard two or three people ask what kind of mileage bikes get," said Jerry Johnsonat Orange County Harley-Davidson. "But that's not your typical question at a Harley shop. They're not looking for an economy vehicle; they're looking for a toy."

Jim Roberts is looking for relief.

The 50-year-old senior account manager for Midwest Airlines travels about 600 miles a week for his job. He drove a Nissan Maxima but switched to his Harley-Davidson Road King Classic to save money on gasoline.

The 750-pound motorcycle was too heavy for everyday use, so he put it up for sale on eBayand began shopping for a Vespa. The high price of fuel is the fundamental reason behind his decision to pilot something more frugal a few days a week, Roberts said. The Vespa he was eyeing at the dealership in Newport Beach has a 3.5-gallon gas tank and gets about 60 mpg, about 10 mpg more than the motorcycle."If gas prices weren't so high, I wouldn't have started driving my motorcycle as much in the first place," Roberts said. "And then I wouldn't be looking at buying a Vespa."

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2006, 12:00:36 PM »
Jaysus theres loads of peopel doing that over here aswell.

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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2006, 12:29:30 PM »
I think I'd be afraid to get out on the highway with a Vespa.

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2006, 12:35:09 PM »
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I think I'd be afraid to get out on the highway with a Vespa.


I've seen it here.  What's really scary is that the law here is that certain scooters ( I can't remember the CC limit) are legal on the road, to be driven with only a learner's license.   Meaning, I have 14yr olds on the road with me, on scooters that handle like crap and have a top speed of 60km/h, learning to navigate in traffic.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2006, 12:43:11 PM »
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I think I'd be afraid to get out on the highway with a Vespa.


I've seen it here.  What's really scary is that the law here is that certain scooters ( I can't remember the CC limit) are legal on the road, to be driven with only a learner's license.   Meaning, I have 14yr olds on the road with me, on scooters that handle like crap and have a top speed of 60km/h, learning to navigate in traffic.


That's interesting.  I like scooters.  Especially the smaller 50s/60s European looking ones.  First motorized two-wheel thing I ever drove was my grandfather's KTM Ponny in Austria in the 1960s.  50cc engine I believe.  We were able to pretty much go anywhere with it, except two-up on the steepest of mountain roads.  So, anyway, I'm pro-scooter, but some of them just don't seem appropriate for the main highways and freeways of the U.S.

Now I got myself wishing I had one again to play with!  I also dig this modern looking Aprilia 50 cc job (which, by the way, has nicer wheels than my B12S) ...



I bet gets incredible mileage!

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2006, 12:49:53 PM »
I'm sure they're fine for playing on.  

The thing that gets me is all the wobbling, lurching and the weaving about the road that I see these people doing.  I have seen so many doing it, I can't believe they're -all- bad riders.   (Keeping in mind too that most of the ones that I'm seeing are these $1500 jobbies that you can buy in all the "Trendy" shops these days too.)

The things look inherently unstable to me.  And by being perched on top of them like that, it doesn't look to have the same control you have with a bike, cos you don't have the ability to direct it with your leg muscles.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2006, 12:55:50 PM »
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I'm sure they're fine for playing on.  

The thing that gets me is all the wobbling, lurching and the weaving about the road that I see these people doing.  I have seen so many doing it, I can't believe they're -all- bad riders.   (Keeping in mind too that most of the ones that I'm seeing are these $1500 jobbies that you can buy in all the "Trendy" shops these days too.)

The things look inherently unstable to me.  And by being perched on top of them like that, it doesn't look to have the same control you have with a bike, cos you don't have the ability to direct it with your leg muscles.


I can drive them as smoothly as any bike.  Must be operator incompetency/carelessness.

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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2006, 01:01:58 PM »
I see ones like this: Click Me

And they're riding two up on them, weebling and wobbling through traffic.
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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2006, 01:06:03 PM »
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I can drive them as smoothly as any bike.  Must be operator incompetency/carelessness.


I'm not sure what scares me more,.. being on the road with a potentially unstable vehicle "filled" with young teens, or incompetent careless young teens on a potentially stable vehicle.  :shock:

Those tiny little wheels, how exciting do they make the ride if the roads are less than perfect?
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« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2006, 03:03:49 PM »
When I lived in SoCal in the 70's & 80's, you could ride a moped with NO license. Not on the bike or the operator. They weren't allowed on limited access highways (freeways). Don't know if it's still like that.

Here in WA, a moped (includes scooters under 50cc and not capable of exceeding 30mph) can be operated by any fully licensed driver, but these machines do require a license plate, just like anything else operated on public roads. You can't take these on limited access highways.  Used to be that motorcycles had to be over 125cc to get on limited access highways, but I can't find that in the books anymore.
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« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2006, 03:12:58 PM »
ha. your uncomfortable with 14yo on a scooter. here in iowa they can get a scooter licence at 14, and also a learners permit which allows them to drive to school if they live further than a mile away without a parent with them. The scooters are supposed to be limited to 25mph but you see em out on the hyway where they are not supposed to be doin like 40
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« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2006, 09:43:49 PM »
The more people there are on two-wheels, the less there will be on four.

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2006, 11:50:05 PM »
Stormi said:  I'm not sure what scares me more,.. being on the road with a potentially unstable vehicle "filled" with young teens, or incompetent careless young teens on a potentially stable vehicle.

Maximus said:   The more people there are on two-wheels, the less there will be on four.

Sven sez:  I'd much rather face careless drivers on two wheels than on four.  1600 miles last week to Atlanta (and NC and TN) and back, and I nearly got wiped out...as I turned into my own driveway at the end, because the idiot pick-up following me wasn't paying attention as I slowed, with my blinker on, to turn in.
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« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2006, 05:19:37 AM »
For the price of a Vespa 50cc (http://www.vespastl.com/11570/8766.html)you could buy a new Kawasaki Ninja 250, have money left over, and have true highway capability.

And a Vespa 250 (http://www.vespastl.com/11570/25494.html) costs more than my (slightly discounted) '02 B12!  

But, hey, if a scooter makes someone happy, that's great.  I'll keep the Bandit ;)
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« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2006, 09:56:03 AM »
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For the price of a Vespa 50cc (http://www.vespastl.com/11570/8766.html)you could buy a new Kawasaki Ninja 250, have money left over, and have true highway capability.

And a Vespa 250 (http://www.vespastl.com/11570/25494.html) costs more than my (slightly discounted) '02 B12!  

But, hey, if a scooter makes someone happy, that's great.  I'll keep the Bandit ;)


That Ninja 250 is one slick little bike!  I dig it.