Bandit Alley
GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: curiousmike on April 10, 2006, 02:20:15 PM
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It's already at $3/gallon here in the bay area... increasing each week...
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We're in the 2.50's-2.60's up here in the Northwet for regular.
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We could reach a point were there is no gas available at any price.
:duh:
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We could reach a point were there is no gas available at any price.
:duh:
It's not "could", it's "will".
I do love the internal combustion engine...
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it is 2.80 in the midwest :duh:
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I'm buying diesel at close to $3 a gallon. Spring is here and I love taking those spur of the moment trips to the east side of the state for fishing, etc. but we won't be taking so many of those. With China, India, & Pakistan rapidly developing, increases in world consumption will be huge. I see $4 to $5 a gallon.
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diesel for this trip was 2.46 in indy, 2.54 in ky and 2.65 in ga.... my conclusion to this is whats it gonna be when we get into the storm season :crybaby:
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Gas prices are going up so fast... I won't get into the politics or point fingers but is doesn't seem logical the price swings so much so quickly. With that said... the Bandit is still the most fun for the gasoline dollar when compared to so many other activities. A double-sawbuck and some twisty roads will fill up a whole day on the cheap. Glad I got back into riding when I did cuz several other pursuits are now just too expensive.
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You guys should check out the April issue of Discover magazine. There's an article titled Anything Into Oil about making oil out of biological waste. It's a follow up article about a company that had developed a relatively efficient process of turning biological matter into oil using heat and pressure just like the earth does, but in a much more timely fashion. They now have a functional plant in Missouri that produces oil for around 40 dollars a barrel after subsidies, from the waste byproducts of a turkey processing plant.
The more they refine the process and the more plants they build the cheaper it would get. Plus, it would theoretically slow the greenhouse effect because we would no longer be adding carbon dioxide from under the earth to the atmosphere, we would just be cycling it.
The end of dependence on middle east oil may be in sight! :banana:
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Stop your bitching guys, come down here for some real Bullshyte ripoff fuel prices. Now I know you guys work on us gallons and I dont have the conversion.
But heres the conversion to imperial gallons
$1.36 per litre, regular gas.
600 ml = I imperial pint.
8 pints = 1 gallon
1 imperial gallon = 4.8 litres
= $6.52 per imperial gallon.
And some Euro countries are being stiffed even harder.
It's high time OPEC went and F*#*#d itself, why?
cause they been f*#*#*g us for years. :soapbox:
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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Stop your bitching guys, come down here for some real Bullshyte ripoff fuel prices. Now I know you guys work on us gallons and I dont have the conversion.
But heres the conversion to imperial gallons
$1.36 per litre, regular gas.
600 ml = I imperial pint.
8 pints = 1 gallon
1 imperial gallon = 4.8 litres
= $6.52 per imperial gallon.
And some Euro countries are being stiffed even harder.
It's high time OPEC went and F*#*#d itself, why?
cause they been f*#*#*g us for years. :soapbox:
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
HERE HERE
Try $1.40 per litre in Country NSW - and it's due to go up just in time for the Easter Long Weekend. YeHa....how Effing unusual....add to this NSW's Double Demerit Point/Double Fine Weekend and you've got more good reasons to stay home.....I unfortunately promised my wife and kids that we'd go down to Melbourne to see the rest of the family. I think we'll take the car...not because of the petrol prices...because it's easier NOT to speed in the Camry and the Treasurer has more points left than I do.
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I don't know about things in Australia, but in the U.S. there is plenty of domestic oil available. But for several decades the crazy so-called environmentalists have all but shut down exploration and drilling. The have had an incredibly negative economic impact on our country and transportation expenses. The continental shelves are loaded with oil. But we ban the drilling.
It's like the government really wants to do as much as possible to help foreign suppliers make money, rather than letting the home-grown industry have it.
:shock: Maybe it's a conspiracy! We help use up everyone else's oil, then we still have plenty for ourselves! :grin:
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Now I know you guys work on us gallons and I dont have the conversion.
But heres the conversion to imperial gallons
$1.36 per litre, regular gas.
600 ml = I imperial pint.
8 pints = 1 gallon
1 imperial gallon = 4.8 litres
= $6.52 per imperial gallon.
You can get the conversion real easy (along with lots of other conversions) for free.
Josh Madison's Convert program (http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/)
I find it's a very handy tool!
(http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/convertAni.gif)
1 US gallon = 0.8326738 Imperial gallon
1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095 US gallon
1 US gallon = 3.785412 Liters (or litres)
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The one thing I still don't understand is yes, fuel prices are high because of the cost of a barrell of crude. Why then are the oil companies posting record profits in the billions? I think they're selling on speculation, which is why you see the large price swings, and skimming the top.
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It's called "taking advantage of the situation". We're at war in the area where we get our oil, so "Hey, let's capitolize on this and rip off our people". C'mon, you know it's true. How else can they raise the price of gas 40 cents in one day only to decrease it 20 cents the next. Nobody can tell me there's a real logical reason for doing that. Fargin' Bastages!
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you should try the cost of fuel in the uk, its £0.93 a litre over here. there is so much tax on it it is unreal, especially with the state of the roads to ride over here
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Now I know you guys work on us gallons and I dont have the conversion.
But heres the conversion to imperial gallons
$1.36 per litre, regular gas.
600 ml = I imperial pint.
8 pints = 1 gallon
1 imperial gallon = 4.8 litres
= $6.52 per imperial gallon.
You can get the conversion real easy (along with lots of other conversions) for free.
Josh Madison's Convert program (http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/)
I find it's a very handy tool!
(http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/convertAni.gif)
1 US gallon = 0.8326738 Imperial gallon
1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095 US gallon
1 US gallon = 3.785412 Liters (or litres)
Nice one Paul :thanks:
In Reply to Desolation Angel's comments about using domesticly produce oils. Yes we should to, but along with you guys we, joined OPEC too.
So the price of oil, whether its domestic or imported crude oil, the price is governed by some oil sheik, needing feed all them wives etc.
Hey Kev25v6, you reckon your being stiffed.
At my local BP severo, when the price was $1.16 per litre, had a graph sign up, to show where our money was going. Of the $1.16, 0.47 cent went to the oil company, the rest went in fuel excise tax, state tax, federal tax, and wait for it Goods and services tax.
Just this week I converted our courier van to LPG fuel, ok I don't like it, as I've had drama's with it in the past. It runs the engine 3 times hotter, it does not have any lube quaities at all, so its hard on valves and heads, and if not managed it will kill engines in no time. But at 46cents a litre, it sure has one huge good point, PRICE
now to manage the LPG. run it regularly on petrol, and also run a vacum supplied upper cyclinder lube setup. Here's the run down so far.
Daily use of petrol was $35- 40 per day
Now with LPG $5 petrol $11 LPG $1 flash lube.
More than halved our daily running bill for a $620 outlay.
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Now I know you guys work on us gallons and I dont have the conversion.
But heres the conversion to imperial gallons
$1.36 per litre, regular gas.
600 ml = I imperial pint.
8 pints = 1 gallon
1 imperial gallon = 4.8 litres
= $6.52 per imperial gallon.
You can get the conversion real easy (along with lots of other conversions) for free.
Josh Madison's Convert program (http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/)
I find it's a very handy tool!
(http://joshmadison.net/software/convert/convertAni.gif)
1 US gallon = 0.8326738 Imperial gallon
1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095 US gallon
1 US gallon = 3.785412 Liters (or litres)
$1.139 /L here...so using this conversion we're @ $4.29/US Gallon...convert that to US$ and it's $3.74/ gallon....AND THAT'S REGULAR 87!
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Hi
The AA in the UK publish a table of national and international fuel prices each month. Here is the one for March 2006 ~(Word document):-
http://www.theaa.com/onlinenews/allaboutcars/fuel/2006/March2006.doc
US petrol worked out at 36.46p a litre. UK average price was 90p a litre (67.2% tax).
All the best
Keith
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My future Bandit replacement....
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/PaulVS/moped.jpg)
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Hi
The AA in the UK publish a table of national and international fuel prices each month. Here is the one for March 2006 ~(Word document):-
http://www.theaa.com/onlinenews/allaboutcars/fuel/2006/March2006.doc
US petrol worked out at 36.46p a litre. UK average price was 90p a litre (67.2% tax).
All the best
Keith
its now at 99p a litre at some places and 1.07p a litree for diesel. were paying about 3 times what you pay according to the above quote.
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By the middle of our summer, we'll be paying about 1/2 of what you pay.
Americans are about to start freaking out.
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I think it's going to be a high fuel price summer for all.
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By the middle of our summer, we'll be paying about 1/2 of what you pay.
Americans are about to start freaking out.
About to start? Hell, I did that when it hit $2.00/ gallon!
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We can all be like euro/asian teens and get honda50 supercubs.
@ over 100mpg - 40mph, for local trips you don't need to buy gas.
Even old bandit400 gas tanks leak faster than that.
Just roll over to a gas station and start pouring the leftover
gas in all the nozzles. Most people leave plenty of gas in there.
Especially in diesel nozzles; not many diesel bike options though.
I had to get in the habit of holding nozzles upward because I kept
spilling fuel everywhere.
I've read a few articles about this, summer is coming and journalists
are recycling their stories about gas again.
Its coming $8-10 gas = inevitable.
But North Americans will get over it and find ways to have more fun than everyone else in the end anyway.
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And with the latest hiccup in the world oil prices last night, some servo's here in Melb, Aust, are charging $1.49 per litre for regular unleaded.
Thats $5.64 per US gallon, or $6.77 per imperial gallon.
And the tip is, its going up more, and soon.
Sure glad on converted the work van to LPG, its still only $0.44 per litre,
Thats like $1.66 per US gallon.
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And with the latest hiccup in the world oil prices last night, some servo's here in Melb, Aust, are charging $1.49 per litre for regular unleaded.
Thats $5.64 per US gallon, or $6.77 per imperial gallon.
And the tip is, its going up more, and soon.
Sure glad on converted the work van to LPG, its still only $0.44 per litre,
Thats like $1.66 per US gallon.
From what I understand from the news reports the latest price hike is the yanks fault. Sorry if that upsets anyone, but that's what "Brian told me"
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And with the latest hiccup in the world oil prices last night, some servo's here in Melb, Aust, are charging $1.49 per litre for regular unleaded.
Thats $5.64 per US gallon, or $6.77 per imperial gallon.
And the tip is, its going up more, and soon.
Sure glad on converted the work van to LPG, its still only $0.44 per litre,
Thats like $1.66 per US gallon.
From what I understand from the news reports the latest price hike is the yanks fault. Sorry if that upsets anyone, but that's what "Brian told me"
Well it must be right if Brian told ya so.
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Good, you got those ads in Vic too.....I was a bit afraid no-one would understand it....
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Depending on the location, we're already starting to see $3 US gal gas up here. Discount stations are in the 2.80's for regular and super or diesel is over $3. Name brand stations, like Shell are close to or over $3 for regular unleaded, especially in resort areas or near the freeway.
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Its only going to get worse. :-) I'm happy I dont own a Hummer or F-350 dualie. eheh
Blue
Depending on the location, we're already starting to see $3 US gal gas up here. Discount stations are in the 2.80's for regular and super or diesel is over $3. Name brand stations, like Shell are close to or over $3 for regular unleaded, especially in resort areas or near the freeway.
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I have a feeling those might be getting a lot cheaper here pretty soon... kinda like muscle cars did when the gas crunch hit in the early 70's and you could buy 454 Chevelles and Hemi Cudas cheap.
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what bikes have the worst gas mileage?
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You know what’s really sad I was watching the news the other day and I believe it was the former CEO of Exxon who had retired and was on the lecture circuit. And he made the comment:
"No one worried about the oil companies when oil was ten dollars a barrel and we were struggling to survive now that there at seventy five and their making a profit every one complains, get over it!"
Of course these comments come from a man whose retirement is 1.5 million a year!
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what bikes have the worst gas mileage?
I haven't really followed that spec closely. The only bike I can recall people really complaing about is the Honda SuperHawk, which is in the low 30's and not helped much by a smallish tank.
Of course these comments come from a man whose retirement is 1.5 million a year!
How can he make ends meet? That's gotta be one of the lower paid CEO retirement salaries of a big corp. I've ever heard of. Poor thing.
:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby:
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I had a 750 2 stroke Kawa triple that would drop into the low teens if you were too heavy on the throttle. LOL
Blue
what bikes have the worst gas mileage?
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The gas situation here in Virginia Beach, Fuel shortages, gas stations closed with no fuel. Gas stations going out of business. Prices changing hourly. Stations that have gas are charging outrageous prices. And all because we are switching to ethanol or so they say is the reason we are now paying 3.08 for regular. AAHHHH gas lines. Reminds me of the 70's !!!!!!
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I guess the "high" gas prices in Saudi Arabia have been strangling their economy... King Abdullah slashed prices from AU$0.27/L down to AU$0.21.
From www.News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,18994051-13762,00.html)
Cheaper fuel for Saudis
May 02, 2006
AS petrol prices rocket around the world, the globe's largest oil producer, Saudi Arabia, yesterday slashed local pump prices by more than 30 per cent.
Saudis now pay just 21c a litre for standard fuel.
King Abdullah issued a decree saying the decrease would "improve living standards" and be for "the public good".
Some analysts predict Australian petrol prices, now about $1.35, could soon rise further.
At the weekend Treasurer Peter Costello called on Australians to brace themselves for substantial rises if a diplomatic crisis worsens over Iran's nuclear ambitions.
US President George W. Bush last week ordered a federal investigation into what has caused fuel prices to rise at least 25 per cent in the US over the past month.
US Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman warned in an interview with NBC television that high fuel prices for consumers were here to stay for the next couple of years, citing huge demand from the fast growing economies of China and India.
Saudi Arabia has been investing heavily to increase production, launching a processing plant in March that raised daily production by 300,000 barrels to 11.3 million barrels.
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Trip to BOSS i found prices not to bad! and a good deal compared to price here in FL. $3 for reg here, 2.57 GA, 2.75 SC, NC. So good i got the mid grade .10 more that got me 44.7 MPG avg the entire trip. No lines anywhere, but surprised how many don't have a rest room!!!!! Geez!! Not good after chasing after those guys. I DID MEAN CHASING!!!! :roll: :motorsmile:
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I went out this morning just to putter around the backroads, watch wildlife and explore some untravelled trails, relaxing and enjoying a little breeze.
On my return, the trip indicator displayed 149 miles when I stopped a mile and a half from my house to fill the tank. It took 2.7 gallons to top it off up the tank neck. I was only riding about 45-50 mph most of the time, so I expected gas milage to be pretty good, but I didnt expect it to be 55 mpg. :-) Its nice to know if I do screw up and find myself in the middle of nowhere and running out of fuel, I can squeak 55 mpg out of the B12. LOL
Blue
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I went out this morning just to putter around the backroads, watch wildlife and explore some untravelled trails, relaxing and enjoying a little breeze.
On my return, the trip indicator displayed 149 miles when I stopped a mile and a half from my house to fill the tank. It took 2.7 gallons to top it off up the tank neck. I was only riding about 45-50 mph most of the time, so I expected gas milage to be pretty good, but I didnt expect it to be 55 mpg. :-) Its nice to know if I do screw up and find myself in the middle of nowhere and running out of fuel, I can squeak 55 mpg out of the B12. LOL Blue
The speed makes the diff! 44.7 per @ 85 to 105 per hr, and being passed by soccer moms with loaded Tahoe's!! Oh and its the blue Bandit want to be in my pic links!! To BOSS & back to Daytona FL
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I crank it up on the freeway too, but some days, I'm not in the mood to spend my time removing Tahoe's from my butt. :-)
Blue
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