Author Topic: GSX-R1000 $12k OTD, dealer won't trade-in my 05 B12 (5K)  (Read 37563 times)

Offline CWO4GUNNER

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GSX-R1000 $12k OTD, dealer won't trade-in my 05 B12 (5K)
« Reply #135 on: May 01, 2007, 10:53:17 PM »
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« Reply #136 on: May 01, 2007, 11:15:03 PM »
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Do you know when I rode up to LA this weekend and stopped by Barstow on the way that the dealer would not let me test ride the bike (sorry no test rides and no listening to the engine). This seems to be a common problem with dealers in general. I got to find a way I can ID a demo model somewhere within 300 miles I can teet ride that 3 selection bad boy. Got to see if the rear tire is as noticeable as they say when you ride the thing, also what seems like the exaggerated claims of a conformable ride with the adjustable foot pegs making all the difference, and handling characteristics that almost make it drive itself.


I know I'm wasting my time, CWO, but I'm gonna make this suggestion just one more time, then I'll STFU, ok?

When you test ride the gixxer, test ride a B1250 too. What can it hurt? At least you'll know from first-hand experience.

And I can guarantee the B1250 will have a lot more GRUNT, no matter what the specs say, and it'll be twice as comfortable, however you adjust the gixxer pegs. And at $4K less, you could buy another scooter...  or a plasma TV! :bandit:
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« Reply #137 on: May 01, 2007, 11:25:48 PM »
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that bag is a figment of his imagination...Holds lots of imaginary stuff though.  Want me to send you an imaginary tote too?


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« Reply #138 on: May 01, 2007, 11:47:23 PM »
By now, I'm thoroughly convinced.... that this thread needs to be archived.... so that future (hopefully) generations of some ethereal variation of intelligent life on this planet can somehow understand what caused the destruction of the human race.


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« Reply #139 on: May 01, 2007, 11:59:08 PM »
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this thread needs to be archived...what caused the destruction of the human race


Wow, that's kind of harsh! Gunner's just tryin' to sell a few bikes and is sharing his progress with us.  That's what the B.A. community is all about:  Sharing.  And totebags.  Big yellow totebags that let everyone know you gave, and baby we mean BIG TIME!
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« Reply #140 on: May 02, 2007, 12:16:22 AM »
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By now, I'm thoroughly convinced.... that this thread needs to be archived....
I thought the very same thing earlier tonight...   :popcorn2:
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« Reply #141 on: May 02, 2007, 12:42:04 AM »
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« Reply #142 on: May 02, 2007, 12:57:13 AM »
Hmmm... 10 pages now without making the slightest dent... and not so much as one word of acknowledgement.

Yeah, I'd say archive it... as a monument to absolute stubborness.  :roll:

Let the record show that we tried...  :deadhorse:
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« Reply #143 on: May 02, 2007, 01:48:39 AM »
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« Reply #144 on: May 02, 2007, 04:07:30 AM »
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« Reply #145 on: May 02, 2007, 07:26:26 AM »
Wich ever bike you buy, you'll be getting a good bike. But get the one that you really want. Don't get the Bandit because its cheaper if you really want the GSXR. Its only $, and its not even mine!

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« Reply #146 on: May 02, 2007, 11:29:38 AM »
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Don't worry Zen if there is a b12.5 at a dealer I find that allows test rides, I will test ride it for a comparison with the new GSXR. I am sure I will find some comparison in one of the GSXR's mapping modes (A,B,or C-mellow), probubly C but mode A tested by CW at 160 HP at the rear wheel and holding 140 MPH in track turns and 180 MPH in the straits might be a bit harder to compare.


(whew) Good, you'll be doing the sensible thing. Now at least we're finally having a conversation...  :roll:

You keep insisting on comparing an all-out SPORT bike to a STANDARD motorcycle. I'm not disputing the fact that the Gixxer will out-perform the B1250 on the track, of course it will! That's not the point. The point is, What are you going to be using it for???

If you think you're going to be using all of that 160 rear-wheel hp, going 140 mph in turns and 180 mph top end on the street, then by all means buy the Gixxer. Otherwise, it's a bit of a waste, dontcha think?

It's nearly impossible to ride any super-sport like the Gixxer, R1, or ZX10R TO IT'S FULL POTENTIAL on the street... and those who try are practically guaranteed to end up in jail, bike impounded or wrecked, taking an ambulance ride and a vacation in the hospital, or worse. (heaven forbid!)

BTW, that "holding 140 mph in track turns" is a misleading statement... every curve has a different radius, thus a different apex speed.

Personally, I don't spend a lot of time over 140 mph, there's no road course around here, and my B1250 gets me around all the twisties faster than anyone I've encountered out there yet, including kids on Gixxers and R1's. It's the rider, not the bike, see?  :bandit:

And you can put 500 mile days on a B1250 and ride two-up no problem. Uh, is there a passenger seat on the Gix? Or do you plan on taking a vow of celibacy?  :lol:

If you look at what these two bikes are intended for, then the B1250 out-performs the Gixxer hands-down. So does your B1200. On the street it is in it's element, where the Gix is more at home on the track. The Bandit is a way more practical and capable motorcycle road-wise and has the power and handling to keep even an adrenaline junky like me happy.

All I'm saying is your looking at two entirely different types of motorcycle. No, the B1250 is not in the same class as the Gixxer, it's not meant to be... neither is the Concours Z1400, the FJR1300, or the Honda ST1300. Any one of those three I think you'd be way happier with in the long run, as long as you're spending that kind of money.

And if you think that Gixxer is going to make you the "Man To Beat" out there, sorry. An expert rider on an average bike will always beat an average rider on an expert bike. Don't believe me now? You will.  :roll:

Look, CWO, you're gonna buy what you want... I know that, and it's fine. I wish you happiness whatever choice you make. But as a friend, I'm gonna give you my 2 cents whether you like it or not, because I'd hate to see you do something you'll really regret later. I would hope you would do the same for me, you know?  :wink:
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« Reply #147 on: May 02, 2007, 01:57:24 PM »
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« Reply #148 on: May 02, 2007, 02:20:15 PM »
Nice pic! Nice watercraft, and pretty daughter... you're a lucky man.  :grin:

I realize you're going through a lot of emotional and financial hardship and I feel for you, believe me. But It's none of my business, and I just hope you get through it all in good shape. It's not my place to offer any advice on anybody's personal relationships.

But when it comes to motorcycles, different story!  :bandit: I think I might know a thing or two on that subject, and I'm more than happy to blab about bikes all day long, whether anybody is listening or not...   :blah:

I just wanted to give you my 2 cents, and feel like you at least considered my words. You're a grown man, and you'll do what you want... as you should.  :wink:

I'd say the same things about the Gixxer/Bandit to anybody thinking of buying one ... face-to-face, friend, aquaintance, or just some Joe sitting at the bar. Now that you've acknowledged that you heard me, I can shut the hell up.  :stfu:

BTW... if you want a test ride on a B1250 and you're ever up this way, just look me up... a PM will do.  :bigok:
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« Reply #149 on: May 02, 2007, 02:32:57 PM »
You could just sell me all your machines you have left for $1/each and once the Big D is done, I'll sell 'em back to you. You can pay for all the doc fees both ways, and keep the paper and machines at your place so you know I won't take advantage of you.
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