Author Topic: GSX1100G vs. Bandit 1200 (Read 25570 times)

fritobandito · « **on:** June 04, 2007, 03:43:48 PM »

Does anybody have any idea how the 91-93 GSX1100G would compare to say an early model Bandit 1200 in regards to engine performance?

Katamaniac · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2007, 03:49:03 PM »

From what I understand is it has the same engine as the first gen GSX-R just like the Bandit. The major differance is it's shaft drive. I don't know how well they perform. There is a forum out there for the GSX1100G, but I couldn't find it. I did find this one though http://www.gsx1100g.net/

solman · « **Reply #2 on:** June 04, 2007, 09:19:58 PM »

It is the cams that are different. Bandits don't have a shaft drive. The two main differences that I am aware of is the cams and the engine size. I can't remember what size engine the 1100 is exactly, but I know that the 12oo is a 1157cc. I would be interesting to see a race between the three.

fritobandito · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2007, 01:19:53 AM »

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the engine size is 1127 cc's.

Red01 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2007, 09:42:57 AM »

Quote from: "Katamaniac"

From what I understand is it has the same engine as the first gen GSX-R just like the Bandit. The major differance is it's shaft drive. I don't know how well they perform. There is a forum out there for the GSX1100G, but I couldn't find it. I did find this one though http://www.gsx1100g.net/

The "G-Men" site looks like it's down, with the exception of a front page: http://www.gsx1100g.com/

And there's a Yahoo! Group: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/gsx1100g/

They're not quite as powerful as a B12 and a little heavier, but they aren't exactly slouches. They won't handle as well as a B12 since they don't have the cornering clearance, flexier forks and tire/wheel sizes that may not be as accepting of modern sportier tire choices.

JReviere · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2007, 04:59:13 PM »

I've got a good friend who loves her GSX1100G. She's not an aggressive rider, but loves the ZOOM ZOOM the "Big G" will do. Side by side, her "G" is slightly taller, seems a bit heavier, and a bit more top heavy than my 2 Gen B12S. Unless you are hooked on the tenths of a second in 0-60 jaunts or top speed, the big deal maker/breaker between the two in my mind would be price... For those who prefer a shaft, the "G" is the choice. If all out performance numbers don't impress you as much as price, the "G" is the choice. But, if you want newer, even if it is chain driven, a 2 Gen B12 is a GREAT BUY... power out the wazoo, great stoppers, good ergos, lots of "tinkering toys" to claim your money, great following... If you want to ask my friend direct questions, e-m me ( jrev@cebridge.net ) I'll send you her e-m address.

JR

Bob Holland · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2007, 05:13:17 PM »

GSX1100G, a heavyweight roadster introduced with retro styling was introduced in April 1991. As for the earlier Suzuki models, ”G” after the model name tells that GSX1100G was shaft driven. GSX1100GM was fitted with the GSX-R1100 Slingshot engine, with 5-speed gearbox, 18-inch front and 17-inch rear 6-spoke alloy wheels, with drilled disc (twinat front and single rear), hydraulic clutch, chromed round headlight, 4 into 2 exhausts and twin instruments. Colors: grey, black, blue, maroon.
http://www.suzukicycles.org/GSX-series/GSX1100G.shtml

GSX 1100 G 1991
Overall Length: 2 220 mm (87.4 in)
Overall Width: 805 mm (31.7 in)
Overall Height: 1 155 mm (45.5 in)
Seat Height: 805 mm (31.7 in)
Wheelbase: 1 568 mm (61.7 in)
Ground Clearance: 150 mm (5.9 in)
Dry Weight: 259 kg (569 lbs)
Engine type: air/oil-cooled 1127 cc inline-4, DOHC, 16 valves. TSCC, SACS. 98 hp/ 7,500 rpm, 99 Nm (73 ft-lbs)/ 4.750 rpm. 5-speed.

JReviere · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2007, 05:24:46 PM »

All I know of hers is it's BLACK. I don't know the year.

JR

Red01 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2007, 09:15:45 PM »

Call me crazy, but I've always wished for a "G" model Bandit... toss on some bags (and my wife begs for a more comfortable [read - lower] set of passenger pegs) and you'd have a budget ST machine along the lines of the original Connie.

And it would have been simple for Suzuki to have done with the B12 since they could've used the shaft conversion bits from the GSX1100G - and the final drive is common across several Suzuki models from what I've read. (The balance shaft the G has wouldn't have hurt many folks feelings either based on how many complain of the B12's buzziness at cruise.)

smooth operator · « **Reply #9 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:11:48 AM »

I had a G befor I bought the "98" Bandit. It was a hwt,@over 600 lbs.,Suspension was soft, longer wheel base than the Bandit. It was a sleeper though,it sounded like a sewing machine on steroids. I put a Jardine pipe on mine and shimmed the needles. I got the bike as part of a deal when tiling the showroom at a local dealer.
One night I knew of a group ride that the local dealer had put on, I found them on their way back about 50 miles out. I made my way through the group, the guy that runs the dealership was in front on a CBR1000F. So I had to challenge him

The big "G" smoked his ass! So I let him come by with a head of steam, The big "G" would just pick right up and whizz by him again. We stopped at a convein. store to let everyone catch back up. Then they seen it was me. I let him lead on the way back until we got to a switch back that went under a RR. I watch his line and took him on the way out. It pulled good for a big bike! But I was ready for something that handled better,and the Bandit fit the bill.
I sold it to my brother, he loved the Big "G". But his crazy wife ran over it with their Windstar in a fit of rage!

It sits in my Mom's garage needing a tank and some bars,some TLC. I later found him a 03 Bandit that he has now. that all folks Dan

SteelD · « **Reply #10 on:** June 06, 2007, 07:18:57 AM »

Quote from: "Red01"

The balance shaft the G has wouldn't have hurt many folks feelings either based on how many complain of the B12's buzziness at cruise.

Didn't I read somewhere that the 1250 has a balancer shaft...

Bob Holland · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2007, 09:54:26 PM »

On the Busas and ZX12s I have built for dragracing, I have left out the balancer, takes 2 to 3 horsepower to spin it.

smooth operator · « **Reply #12 on:** June 07, 2007, 07:05:00 AM »

I rode a 6cylinder Kaw shaft drive that wanted to stand you up while powering through the corner. The "G" however, had no such tendencies. I beleive Suzuki has their own design shaft drive to eliminate that. It certainly made for easy cleaning. But I was happy to move onto something more performance minded. The Bandit has been a great bike to do whatever you want. Dan

Red01 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:32:48 AM »

Quote from: "SteelD"

Quote from: "Red01"
The balance shaft the G has wouldn't have hurt many folks feelings either based on how many complain of the B12's buzziness at cruise.

Didn't I read somewhere that the 1250 has a balancer shaft...

Yup! The 1250 has one.

JReviere · « **Reply #14 on:** June 07, 2007, 09:43:19 AM »

Hummm... Read these posts about buzziness yesterday. Went out and rode my 01B12S to see if I'd missed something. With no bar end weights, handle bar filled with BBs and capped... all gears and speeds up to 70 cruise... no buzz felt... Maybe I'm immune, but I don't think so. Last bike was an 03 ST1300 with DUAL COUNTER BALANCE SHAFTS which can be "tuned" with adjustments accessable with the engine running... and tuned to max smoothness at cruise rpms.. I could feel some buzz in the grips at about 3600rpm... but with Bandit... none felt... I guess I'm just fortunate...

JR
Lake Livingston, TX