Bandit Alley
GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: PeteSC on October 01, 2005, 01:43:57 PM
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Europe only, of course....
(http://www.rubbermag.com/news/0509/imgs/050930_honcbf.jpg)
CBF1000 ABS
This all-new touring sports model features a water-cooled, 4-stroke, in-line, 4-cylinder, 1000cc engine based on CBR1000RR engine technology. Including both Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI) and an air injection system, the CBF1000 offers exceptionally smooth riding from low to high rpm ranges. In addition, its adjustable seat matches the rider for extra riding comfort.
Compliant with the European Union's Euro 3 emission standards and including a Combined Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) as standard on some types, the CBF1000 offers top-level environmental and safety performance. Produced by Honda subsidiary Honda Italia Industriale S.P.A. (Italy), the CBF1000 it will be released in European markets starting in early 2006 with an annual European sales projection of 10,000 units.
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*yawn*
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Well, let's see some performance figures before we fall asleep....at least.
I'm also wondering about the weight... :motorsmile:
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Sorry I don't care if it's 200bhp - you can't say that's a NEW model. It looks old already. And anyone who buys it is automatically a grandad. Looks like a brown Hornet trying to be a Bandit with an ugly half fairing and frame and 10 year out-of-date styling.
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I like it, but I am a grandad already. I haven't owned a Honda since my Gold Wing days, but Honda does, in my opinion have the best quality control, even though they don't compete in horse power. :beers:
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I like it better than the 919/Hornet... but not enough to buy one, even if they were available in the USA. I still like my B12 better.
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I think Suzuki has a lawsuite here.
Looks like Honda Mated a B-12 with a V-Strom!
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From the Paris show:
(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/ParisShow2005%20004CBF1000.JPG)
At least the seat ornament on the black is nice!
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(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/ParisShow2005Session2%20043CBF1000babe.JPG)
(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/ParisShow2005Session2%20040CBF1000diva.JPG)
(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/ParisShow2005Session2%20041CBF1000babe.JPG)
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(http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/ParisShow2005Session2%20043CBF1000babe.JPG)
I'll take two! :banana:
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More power to ya!
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I can barely afford the one I have now... and that one looks higher maintenance than the one I have... I can only imagine how spendy TWO would be.
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I like it but the local Honda dealership has nothing but buttheads in their shop. I can't name a single person who doesn't hate them. Suzuki is for me. I've been dreaming about a GSXR or a Busa lately.
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This all-new touring sports model
I can't believe that's a new model! I can't believe it. "All-new?" All new! Old (stolen) unmodified styling, an OLD DETUNED motor, I'm gonna be sick! And if you really are Bandit owners you will be agreeing with me!
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Easy Billy, take it easy. Breath deep.
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Perhaps there is some truth to the modern UJM theory.
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This all-new touring sports model
I can't believe that's a new model! I can't believe it. "All-new?" All new! Old (stolen) unmodified styling, an OLD DETUNED motor, I'm gonna be sick! And if you really are Bandit owners you will be agreeing with me!
Your dead right Billy,
Hon Hoon Hooon, still carnt say the word, maybe they need to paint them pink. Then it would be easy to say pink shyte thing. Hon Hon you know the company I'm trying to say, might one day make a bike, when they sort out their shyteful electrics, and engine management systems. But until then, :lol: pink shyte things. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Haha yep!
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I can't believe that's a new model! I can't believe it. "All-new?" All new! Old (stolen) unmodified styling, an OLD DETUNED motor, I'm gonna be sick! And if you really are Bandit owners you will be agreeing with me!
You think the Honda uses an old detuned motor? The Bandit's is MUCH older (1989) - and detuned, too. At least Suzuki bumped up the CC's when they dropped the compression and put in milder cams.
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I don't see anything wrong with it's looks. I'm not a Honda guy, though. Never have been.
Suzuki...The Fast One!
Oh, and I don't feel like I have an OLD engine when I'm blasting down US75! Just so I'll know, which Suzy has a completely NEW engine. What does it have that the Bandit engine doesn't. Hey, I don't know and I'm not a mechanic. :grin:
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Yeah but the Bandit's the Bandit. The CBF1000 wants to be the Bandit but can't be. It's been done. And I don't think the Bandit needs to be changed, it's fine how it is. Honda Schmonda.
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Just so I'll know, which Suzy has a completely NEW engine. What does it have that the Bandit engine doesn't. Hey, I don't know and I'm not a mechanic. :grin:
The sport bikes get all-new engines every 2-4 years. From what I've been reading, the '06 GSXR 600 & 750 will have all-new lumps. The hypersport bikes have to do this to stay on top of the competition. Sporting standards, like the Bandit, don't need to do that. What they have the Bandit doesn't is everything is made as light as possible to reduce rotating mass and lower overall weight. They have pistons with almost no skirts, running in water-cooled blocks with holes in the lower part of the cylinder walls to reduce pumping pressures on the bottom end, titanium valves, fuel injection, and so on...
I predict the new GSR600 phasing out the Bandit 600/650 and a new liter or liter-plus class GSR using either a GSXR1000 or GSX1300R based engine appearing in '07 to do likewise to the B12. While the new 3G B12 has a few improvements over the 2G, it doesn't seem like handling or power improvements are part of the deal, so it will continue to loose out in magazine shoot-outs to more up-to-date bikes like the new 2G FZ1.
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On the new engine question:
Suzuki will be launching a completely new GSX-R600 and GSX-R750 for 2006. Both bikes will share almost identical styling and both will be even more radical than this year’s litre bike.
The all-new engines will be far more compact than the existing ones allowing room for a tiny exhaust to be mounted just below the footpegs.
The new engine will be held by a brand new frame which is expected to be much narrower than the current bike.
The claimed power for the 750 should be over 150bhp while the 600 gets 130bhp.
Those are probably crankshaft horsepower numbers, so subtract 10-15% for rear wheel horsepower. Still, that means the GSXR 600 is putting out numbers at or above a B12 with a slip-on and a jet kit. It won't have the bottom end and mid-range punch of the B12 (or the ergos), but it's a LOT lighter and more agile.