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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: Swamp Rat on November 10, 2005, 12:42:32 PM
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I wanted to find that post about how fast you have been and can't seem to find it.
Anyways.....an update on my part 150mph indicated. I couldn't help it...seems my wrist cramped up in the WFO position and wouldn't turn loose until my spincster cramp got worse than the wrist cramp.
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Wow! With our speedometer error, that'd be, what? 90?
:stickpoke:
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But that was in 1st. gear. :stickpoke:
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I've been 150mph on my 01 B12. With a little gas to go. :motorsmile:
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130's indicated and was still pulling hard. :shock:
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Needle had a slight bounce between 150 and 160...so I'll be happy to say 150+. Backed off....coming up on traffic REAL quick. :shock:
cheers
Bill
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135 indicated.
Had the same problem as Billster.
The scenery ahead was getting MUCH too close too fast.
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I can't seem to find it at the moment, but I know we just had this conversation fairly recently. Just for giggles, I have taken mine up to 150 mph indicated.
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can you guys indicate if you're modded and faired @ these speeds?
My bike is naked and it hurts to go over 110 mph (speedo-indicated)
There are drag racing nights @ my local speedways,
but I think those are for cars only-maybe too much liabilty with bikes.
i'd love to get a receipt at a drag strip
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The last ride I took on my '82 GS1100E, I had it at redline in 5th. It had an 85mph speedometer so I have to go by the tach. I had geared it taller than stock so that worked out to mid 150's. When I left off of it and raised up in to the wind, it got one heck of a weave.
I've had my B6 at an indicated 120mph. I guess that would work out to 105-107 mph with the inaccurate speedometer.
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B12 naked....with a little Ntl. Cycle bikini fairing. definitely need to tuck in when you're up there.
(http://www.bikepics.com/pics/pics/suzuki-gsf1200-03-bikepics-453167.jpg)
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No fairing, Holeshot highmount exhaust, stage 1 jet kit= 150 MPH indicated. I have tried since I swapped to my 47 tooth rear sprocket.
(http://www.holeshot.com/bandit/images/Bandit_A10.jpg)
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2000 Bandit 1200S with a Brock Davidson Street Smart System, Holeshot advancer, K&N filter, and a Factory Pro stage1 carb kit. :banana:
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I wanted to find that post about how fast you have been and can't seem to find it.
That thread is in the B6/12 MODIFICATIONS section under the title "how fast will a 2005 bandit 1200s go?"
http://forums.banditalley.net/viewtopic.php?t=2849
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can you guys indicate if you're modded and faired @ these speeds?
My bike is naked and it hurts to go over 110 mph (speedo-indicated)
There are drag racing nights @ my local speedways,
but I think those are for cars only-maybe too much liabilty with bikes.
i'd love to get a receipt at a drag strip
Naked B12 2001 with a Holeshot flyscreen works good too. It creates a little pocket you can lay down in on the tank. Peep over the top. It's pretty cool with the gauges right in front of you and your eyeline right above the flycreen. It's a pretty stable pocket at speed, just don't sit up or pick your head up at high speed.
here's a pick of what the holeshot screen looks like from the seat and front. Stay tucked at speed and it's no problem.
(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/742/22mz.jpg) (http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3379/16yx.jpg)
I've seen my speedo close to pegged, but we all know it's nowhere near what's indicated. I'm pretty sure the top speed test track results have been in the 140's and you know a pro rider has the throttle pinned for a while to get the true speed on radar...
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Stock 2003 B12- 140mph indicated just into 5th (previously GPS says 80mph ind. vs. 75mph gps)
(http://calledinsick.home.att.net/oldphotos/b12.jpg)
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gotta roll my pant legs way up. :bs:
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Kentucky needs some flat, straight, smooth and uninhabited roads in wide open spaces.... It's not too difficult to wind her out in the right conditions, I checked mine in remote west TX-no trees, no traffic, no cops.... An ambulance woulda been a long way off if I f---ked up though...
:monkeymoon:
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Most stock bikes want pull much in top gear, so when you top out in 4TH gear, you are probabley doing all she will do. If your bike will pull to 9500 in 4th, that is a true 142 mph with stock gearing, 15/45
rpm -- 1st -- 2nd -- 3rd -- 4th -- 5th
8,000 --52.7 --77.0 --100.5 --120.3-- 137.6
8,500 --56.0 --81.9 --106.8 --127.8 --146.2
9,000 --59.3-- 86.7-- 113.1-- 135.3-- 154.8
9,500 -- 62.6-- 91.5-- 119.4-- 142.8-- 163.4
10,000 - 65.9- 96.3- 125.7-- 150.3-- 172.1
10,500 - 69.2- 101.1- 131.9-- 157.8-- 180.7
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straights are BORINg. :bigok:
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No doubt... :) But for this topic and thread, it's exactly what's needed..... :bigok:
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Hi
I know that on my (1997 Bandit) 170 indicated was bang on the red line in top on stock gearing and was 155mph true.
All the best
Keith
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Most stock bikes want pull much in top gear, so when you top out in 4TH gear, you are probabley doing all she will do. If your bike will pull to 9500 in 4th, that is a true 142 mph with stock gearing, 15/45
rpm -- 1st -- 2nd -- 3rd -- 4th -- 5th
8,000 --52.7 --77.0 --100.5 --120.3-- 137.6
8,500 --56.0 --81.9 --106.8 --127.8 --146.2
9,000 --59.3-- 86.7-- 113.1-- 135.3-- 154.8
9,500 -- 62.6-- 91.5-- 119.4-- 142.8-- 163.4
10,000 - 65.9- 96.3- 125.7-- 150.3-- 172.1
10,500 - 69.2- 101.1- 131.9-- 157.8-- 180.7
Pardon me for being blunt, but this is about the only usefull info I have read in this thread. Stock speedo is so damn innacurate (mine is optimistic by 10-20%, and it's not linear either), so many of us have different tires and gearing that it all renders "indicated" speedo readings totally useless.
The only speed reading i consider reliable enough is GPS or radar gun reading. That said, I did 210 Km/h GPS (130.48795 miles/hour) and it was still pulling like a bat out of hell (it didn't feel anywhere near the top). The bike (bandit.xxc.cc) is a fairly stock 2002 1200S with drilled-out stock pipe and (acording to the previous owner - not yet confirmed) stage one jet kit. The bike has 21000Km on the odo (convert to whatever obsolete measure you want at metric.xxc.cc), stock sprockets and tires.
Cheers,
Vlad
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Stock speedo is so damn innacurate and so many of us have different tires, sprocket setups etc. that it all renders "indicated" speedo readings totally useless.
Different tyres renders those figures inaccurate as well :stickpoke: .
All the best
Keith
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also don't forget tire slip as well as clutch slip?
e
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with stock gearing, 15/45
rpm -- 1st -- 2nd -- 3rd -- 4th -- 5th
8,000 --52.7 --77.0 --100.5 --120.3-- 137.6
8,500 --56.0 --81.9 --106.8 --127.8 --146.2
9,000 --59.3-- 86.7-- 113.1-- 135.3-- 154.8
9,500 -- 62.6-- 91.5-- 119.4-- 142.8-- 163.4
10,000 - 65.9- 96.3- 125.7-- 150.3-- 172.1
10,500 - 69.2- 101.1- 131.9-- 157.8-- 180.7
Guys, I'm pretty sure these numbers are from a gearing formula/calculator. They look like true mph to me. The part yall are missing is your Bandit doesn't have the topend to hit those high rpm's in 5th. Those numbers are generated by a gearing formula using stock gear ratios. In 4th, with a lower ratio may hit the high rpm's. See ?
I have no doubt at 130mph actual in 5th at under 8K, it feels very strong. But push it up to 8.5K and see what happens...
All the bike tests dating back to 2001 for the bike mags have listed the B12 in 140's, that's true mph on a box stock Bandit.
I know many of you have modified bikes, but unless you've changed the stock cam, your power curve still poops out around 9K on the tach. That's a differnt story if you have a gixxer cam, it'll cruise right by 9k still making progressive power...
I'm gonna shutup now, and move on... yall discuss it all you want, the facts are pretty clear...
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This is the whole list someone posted it earlier and I saved it
RPM MPH MPH MPH MPH MPH
1,500 9.9 14.4 18.8 22.5 25.8
2,000 13.2 19.3 25.1 30.1 34.4
2,500 16.5 24.1 31.4 37.6 43.0
3,000 19.8 28.9 37.7 45.1 51.6
3,500 23.1 33.7 44.0 52.6 60.2
4,000 26.4 38.5 50.3 60.1 68.8
4,500 29.7 43.3 56.5 67.6 77.4
5,000 32.9 48.2 62.8 75.2 86.0
5,500 36.2 53.0 69.1 82.7 94.6
6,000 39.5 57.8 75.4 90.2 103.2
6,500 42.8 62.6 81.7 97.7 111.8
7,000 46.1 67.4 88.0 105.2 120.4
7,100 46.8 68.4 89.2 106.7 122.2
7,200 47.4 69.3 90.5 108.2 123.9
7,300 48.1 70.3 91.7 109.7 125.6
7,400 48.8 71.3 93.0 111.2 127.3
7,500 49.4 72.2 94.2 112.7 129.0
7,600 50.1 73.2 95.5 114.2 130.8
7,700 50.7 74.2 96.8 115.7 132.5
7,800 51.4 75.1 98.0 117.2 134.2
7,900 52.1 76.1 99.3 118.8 135.9
8,000 52.7 77.0 100.5 120.3 137.6
8,100 53.4 78.0 101.8 121.8 139.4
8,200 54.0 79.0 103.0 123.3 141.1
8,300 54.7 79.9 104.3 124.8 142.8
8,400 55.3 80.9 105.6 126.3 144.5
8,500 56.0 81.9 106.8 127.8 146.2
8,600 56.7 82.8 108.1 129.3 148.0
8,700 57.3 83.8 109.3 130.8 149.7
8,800 58.0 84.8 110.6 132.3 151.4
8,900 58.6 85.7 111.8 133.8 153.1
9,000 59.3 86.7 113.1 135.3 154.8
9,100 60.0 87.6 114.4 136.8 156.6
9,200 60.6 88.6 115.6 138.3 158.3
9,300 61.3 89.6 116.9 139.8 160.0
9,400 61.9 90.5 118.1 141.3 161.7
9,500 62.6 91.5 119.4 142.8 163.4
9,600 63.3 92.5 120.6 144.3 165.2
9,700 63.9 93.4 121.9 145.8 166.9
9,800 64.6 94.4 123.2 147.3 168.6
9,900 65.2 95.3 124.4 148.8 170.3
10,000 65.9 96.3 125.7 150.3 172.1
10,100 66.5 97.3 126.9 151.8 173.8
10,200 67.2 98.2 128.2 153.3 175.5
10,300 67.9 99.2 129.4 154.8 177.2
10,400 68.5 100.2 130.7 156.3 178.9
10,500 69.2 101.1 131.9 157.8 180.7
10,600 69.8 102.1 133.2 159.3 182.4
10,700 70.5 103.1 134.5 160.8 184.1
10,800 71.2 104.0 135.7 162.3 185.8
10,900 71.8 105.0 137.0 163.8 187.5
11,000 72.5 105.9 138.2 165.4 189.3
11,100 73.1 106.9 139.5 166.9 191.0
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On the gearing caclulator, you input sprocket size and tire diameter. I will send it to anyone who wants it. I have one for the Busa and ZX12.
I have found it easier to meaure the circumference of the rear tire and then find the diameter. I have checked this aginst my gps and it is acurate
INPUTS 1998 GSF1200S Bandit Gearing Calculator
Front Sprocket (Teeth) 15
Rear Sprocket (Teeth) 43
Final Ratio 2.87
Primary Ratio 1.565
Rear Tire Diameter (inches) 24.79
Tire Circumference (Inches) 77.88
GEAR 1 2 3 4 5
Internal Gear Ratio 2.384 1.631 1.250 1.045 0.913
Overall Gear Ratio 10.695 7.317 5.608 4.688 4.096
RPM MPH MPH MPH MPH MPH
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If you wanna get technical, there's a problem with that formula... it shouldn't be "diameter" (or the diameter calculated from the circumference) but "effective diameter" which is 2X the radius from the center of the axle to the ground (contact patch). This measurement will be smaller than the radius taken from the axle to the top of the tire - unless the wheel is WAY overinflated or has no weight on it.
The posted charts are gonna be close, but if you want exact, you'd need to feed the calculator "effective diameter."
OK, I'm done pickin' the fly dung from the pepper... :motorsmile:
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In fact, the faster you go, the bigger the tire gets, so mesure it any way you like, it will be a lot closer than the speedo