Bandit Alley
GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: Broken Boards Skateshop on October 28, 2008, 02:23:22 AM
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Just ran into a great deal on a ZX6R and I am loving it so far! :motorsmile: Still love my little bandit but its so hard to keep up with the bigger bikes I ride with when Im on the highway or in town. Probably going to put the little 400 up for sale soon.. Ill miss her though.. :sad:
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What year Kawi? I love my 98! Although, I very, very rarely had trouble keepin' up with anyone on the B4.... Good luck with the new ride.
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Its actualy a low km 98. Ya I never seemed to have to much trouble keeping up when we were actualy out on the road riding. But when we are either putting around town with stop lights or on roads with 100KM speed limits its kinda tuff to keep up. (My weight didnt help either I am 6`2 and about 200 pounds, poor little bandit)
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Yeah, when riding the B4 with a group on straight roads and in town I kinda feel like someones little cousin Skippy or something. "Hey guys! Wait for MEEE!!"
Congrats on the new bike. ZX6R is a nice bike. For a Kawi.
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The only time I ever felt underpowered with the B4 was on the track (only on straightaways) and in heavy interstate-type traffic - and I think that's just because I wasn't as stupid as the guys I was riding with.
For the Kawi, if it doesn't have a jet kit.... it should. Shimmed needles help. The jet kit makes it like a different bike.
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I can agree with Rob, the only time I feel the B4 underpowered is in a high HP roll-on. Back straight of Pocono where it's WFO for about 30 seconds 4-5 gear, I don't stand a chance. Really though, it's only when the speeds go above 100-110 that I wave bye bye.
Even then, it really isn't so bad mainly because if the road or the track gets tighter, it's right back to business as usual. I generally ride with a bunch of guys from the local Ducati group and its only the guys who are total track-nuts that walk all over me. Even then, they're in sight and within reason.
I'd love a bigger HP bike but for the cost of maintenance and $75 a year insurance, I'll stick with what I've got for now.
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- and I think that's just because I wasn't as stupid as the guys I was riding with.
:trustme::clap: :grin: :bigok:
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I'm not arguing that the B4 isn't a great bike-because it really is. I love that little bike. But if you do ride in groups (which I usually avoid anyway) and live in a place like here, where it's all very flat and very, very straight, and you give up 50 to 100 horsepower to everyone else, the light turns green and the B4 rider ends up trying to keep up with a bunch of two wheeled rockets and getting left behind routinely, which just gets old. There's no curves to catch back up in, either. You'll see them at the next light. Maybe.
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I'm not arguing that the B4 isn't a great bike-because it really is. I love that little bike. But if you do ride in groups (which I usually avoid anyway) and live in a place like here, where it's all very flat and very, very straight, and you give up 50 to 100 horsepower to everyone else, the light turns green and the B4 rider ends up trying to keep up with a bunch of two wheeled rockets and getting left behind routinely, which just gets old. There's no curves to catch back up in, either. You'll see them at the next light. Maybe.
Oh C'mon! I don't leave you that far behind... it's the other 919 we ride with that does that..... :stickpoke:
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Exactly thats what Im saying r_outsider. I will have to wait untill next summer to see how I fair with a group on a 600. Well I am on the kawasaki topic anyone know a good place to get color matched touch up preferably spray can stuf to fix up the fairings a bit untill I have to cash for new fairings and or new paint? Or if anyone happens to have some nice zx6r fairings they dont need taking up space... lol worth a shot
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...anyone know a good place to get color matched touch up preferably spray can stuf ...?
Try Color Rite, (http://www.colorrite.com/) not exactly cheap, but it's the only source I know of for color matched motorcycle paint, short of going into an automotive paint store and having them blend something for you.
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Try Color Rite, (http://www.colorrite.com/) not exactly cheap, but it's the only source I know of for color matched motorcycle paint, short of going into an automotive paint store and having them blend something for you.
And even if you do go to a auto body supply shop or similar to match the paint, even if they have a panel to do it off of, they still can't guarantee that it's right. When we were trying to get the paint for the CBR, they tried 4 times, and finally I said, look, this is costing you money now, and you obviously can't match it. refund my money and I'll go to a body shop.
The body shop mixed it in 5 mins from the code, and it was perfect. (besides maybe a half shade for fade) Not bad for an 8
yr old bike
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I'm not arguing that the B4 isn't a great bike-because it really is. I love that little bike. But if you do ride in groups (which I usually avoid anyway) and live in a place like here, where it's all very flat and very, very straight, and you give up 50 to 100 horsepower to everyone else, the light turns green and the B4 rider ends up trying to keep up with a bunch of two wheeled rockets and getting left behind routinely, which just gets old. There's no curves to catch back up in, either. You'll see them at the next light. Maybe.
Well yeah - the little B isn't going to keep up on flat and straight when out-horsepowered 2 to 1. Around here, group rides usually seek out twisties and my little 400 was usually near the front with some annoyed supersport riders making excuses at the regroup stops. :trustme:
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And even if you do go to a auto body supply shop or similar to match the paint, even if they have a panel to do it off of, they still can't guarantee that it's right. When we were trying to get the paint for the CBR, they tried 4 times, and finally I said, look, this is costing you money now, and you obviously can't match it. refund my money and I'll go to a body shop.
The body shop mixed it in 5 mins from the code, and it was perfect. (besides maybe a half shade for fade) Not bad for an 8 yr old bike
That doesn't say much for the folk(s) at that auto body supply shop. They should have the same skills as the body shop guys. The only problem with going to a body shop is they may not wanna talk to you if you only want to buy a few ounces of paint and they may not be equipped to put it into a spray can for you. If they will mix some up, you could probably get a supply to put it in an aerosol can though.
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That doesn't say much for the folk(s) at that auto body supply shop. They should have the same skills as the body shop guys. The only problem with going to a body shop is they may not wanna talk to you if you only want to buy a few ounces of paint and they may not be equipped to put it into a spray can for you. If they will mix some up, you could probably get a supply to put it in an aerosol can though.
No it really doesn't say a lot about them, but... I think part of the problem is that certain companies use "secret formulas",... which often comes down to a slightly tinted base (you'll see that with the high end house paints too that's why Ralph Lauren and Behr colors are so hard to match in a "regular" paint, like CIL or whatever). So if company A makes the original paint, and has say a yellow tinted base, and you go to company B to get the paint matched, and their paint has say a blue base, there's a good chance that they can match 85% or so of the colors, but anything leaning towards a yellow will more than likely not be matched exactly.
In my case, company C (the body shop) had a different brand of paint, that was likely closer to the original. Plus the guy that mixed my paint at the body shop had been doing it for probably as long as I've been alive. The "kid" at the body shop supply was closer to my age, perhaps a little younger.
Experience wins out every time. :)
The body shop I deal with is owned by a former neighbor. :) And I used to fix his computer. That gets me some perks, but there are some shops out there that are willing to do a few ounces.
I think I got 8 ounces (about 2/3 a spaghetti jar full), which once loaded into a paint gun will allow you to paint damn near a whole faired bike. (Or in my case, screw up a few times on 2 panels, and have touch up paint for life.)
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I moved up from my B4 to a ZZR-600 (same bike as the 00-02 ZX6R, which is 90% the same as the 98-99 ZX6R). My main reason was because I wanted something with an actual fairing and a bit more power for the highway (little B4 used to be SCREAMING at 8000+ rpm on the highway!).
I put almost 10,000km on the ZZR this season, and I'm loving it! I'm really happy I started on the B4 though...as I learned alot with it, especially the throttle and power curve of the 4-cyl engine. The ZZR felt pretty similar to the B4....the power curve was the same...there was just a lot more of it! :trustme:
Congrats on the ZX6R! You'll love it!
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OMG! I am in a terrible mood. When I went to get this bike all I really cared about and asked the guy about was the transmission. If it went into gear fine, if it skipped or jumped out of gear at any rpm all that junk. The guy did not want to let me ride it when I went to look at it (understandable don't want someone dropping his bike) but I planned on taking it for a zip when I went to pick it up and he had some cash in his hand... However when I went to pickup the bike i had some car trouble and ended up getting there really late, it was pouring rain and the bikes battery was dead so I just loaded it up shook his hand and left and did not take the bike out for a ride until today. Just pulled out of my driveway and shifted into second and that second gear decided it would skip like crazy! I am really bummed out and just needed to complain someplace and this seemed as good a place as any... A huge reason I got this bike was because my bandit had a bad second gear and I really did not feel like fixing it. But now I am back where I started... Cant believe there are so many crooked sellers out there that somehow I managed to buy two bikes with messed up second gears in a row!
(Guess it may not have been as good a deal as I thought.)
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Anyone know ruffly what a shop would charge for this kind of job? I am thinking allot!? The Haynes manual seems to tell me I would have to take almost every other part off the motor apart to get to the transmission... Not sure if I am up to that.
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I'm not familiar with the ZX-6R, but changing tranny gears and/or shift forks IS a pretty big job. Engine out of the frame, usually starter, alternator, clutch etc removed, split the cases and then look for bad parts.
Unfortunately, you really DID want to ensure your rode the bike first...
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Try to adjust the clutch and change the oil before doing anything, and see if it helps. Also try adjusting the shift lever height.
If that doesnt work, then it sounds like it might need to be replaced :(
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That sucks, dude. My ZX is a little picky going into N, especially if the oil level isn't perfect, but otherwise shifts GREAT at 24K miles...
Back to the B4 discussion.... I will say that you have to do a helluva lot more shifting on it to keep up... especially if you're riding with friends on big, torquey twins. All the power is way up top. Randy mentioned Pocono. There are guys on RCs or even Gixxer 750s that don't shift the whole way around that little thing - nuthin' but 3rd gear. What fun is that????