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Offline sputnik378

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Lubes and adhesives What U Got?
« on: July 29, 2006, 08:27:22 PM »
I am just looking into buying myself some chemicals for my bike, and I'd like a few suggestions.  I think this could be useful to others in the future as well.  So I'll just get into it.

Chain lube (I know there are massive threads about this but a few more thoughts never hurt anyone)

Internal mechanism grease (something like Suzuki super grease A, whatever the hell that is I can hardly find the stuff anywhere) this is for things like say the push pin in a clutch or other small internal parts that need special lube.

gasket adhesives (like the stuff you put on new gaskets when you replace them to seal the points that have a split in the metal)

Cable housings and cables (not quite in the lube or adhesive category, but a fairly important topic regardless)

and of course anything anyone would like to add.  Just looking for some background from people who fix and maintain their bikes regularly.  I'm fairly new at it and would like to save myself some trial and error time if possible.

Offline 2005B12S

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2006, 11:21:31 PM »
Chain lube.... Maxima chain wax - the best I have used

Grease.... any high perf wheel bearing grease - Valvoline at the moment

Gasket adhesive.... permatex or any equivelent such as Hondabond

Cable lube....... WD40 or any other spray lube


Hope that helps, Ed.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2006, 09:41:52 AM »
Right now - Honda Blue chain lube but will probably go back to the Maxima wax next.

Valvoline synth bearing grease for most stuff.

Gasket - Permatex

Prestone silicone lube for cables.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2006, 10:26:26 AM »
90 weight gear oil for the chain - (27,000 miles and counting)

Snapper mower grease ('cuz I have a huge jug of it)

Permatex (black)

Cables???..... What cables?????
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2006, 12:07:08 PM »
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90 weight gear oil for the chain - (27,000 miles and counting)

Snapper mower grease ('cuz I have a huge jug of it)

Permatex (black)

Cables???..... What cables?????


Throttle pull, throttle return and choke?
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2006, 01:16:38 PM »
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Throttle pull, throttle return and choke?

Oh ya...... guess I better get busy.   :duh:
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2006, 01:31:34 PM »
I like the Chain Wax too but never got 25k+ mles from a chain either.
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Offline 2005B12S

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2006, 03:21:47 PM »
I used 90w gear oil for chain lube on my first bike, a then new 1983 Honda 450 Nighthawk. That stuff makes a mess. It is an effective chain lubricant, but the clean up was a nightmare.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2006, 05:26:29 PM »
Quote from: 2005B12S
I used 90w gear oil for chain lube on my first bike, a then new 1983 Honda 450 Nighthawk. That stuff makes a mess. It is an effective chain lubricant, but the clean up was a nightmare.


Not to mention the stench!

In addition to the previously mentioned, get some Permatex Ultra Slick w/PTFE all-purpose lube.....stuff is great!

Offline Have Blue

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2006, 06:10:50 PM »
Chain lube............I dont use any.  I wipe the side plates down with an oily rag once every two weeks.  I average about 25K miles on a chain and sprocket set.

Gasket sealer...........Never use any.  The last thing I want is little pieces of gasket compound circulating in the oil system.

Grease........Hi temp bearing grease.

Cable lube......Boeshield T-9, a corrosion block, water displacement and lubricant.  Can also be used on plastic and rubber as a lubricant, and will lube "O" rings on a chain and block rust.

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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2006, 11:23:24 PM »
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Gasket sealer...........Never use any.  The last thing I want is little pieces of gasket compound circulating in the oil system.

Blue



Obviously do not spread the stuff around thick enough to clog every small oil passage.

I do not see how you can get the spark plug tower gaskets to stay put while you install the cam cover without some sort of adhesive. Using gasket bond is much easier on the half moon plugs on the ends of the cam cover gasket also. Its even called for in the factory service manual.

Been using the stuff for 20+ years with no side effects.


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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2006, 11:01:56 AM »
Chain lube = Honda Red can
Grease = Boat trailer grease (will stand total submersion in water - been using it on my Jeeps for eons)
Gasket adhesive = Mopar black silicone (got it free from a friend at a Jeep dealership - when it's not around, Permatex is fine, too)
Cables - Dupont's Teflon spray lube from Lowe's
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Offline Dave 02 1200

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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2006, 12:54:53 PM »
Have Blue got this one right!  Some gasket sealer always gets inside the cases no matter how careful you might be.  When I took off my cam cover to set my tappets at 500 miles guess what I found inside the cover and on the head...gasket sealer from the factory assembly just waiting to get loose and plug an oilway.  I used a scraper made from a slice of an aluminum can and removed it.  It was a tedious process because I took my time to avoid losing any into the cases where it could cause trouble.  

I replaced the cover using Aladdin Magic Lube Teflon Grease (for swimming pool filter o-rings) to hold the o-rings and gasket into the cover during assembly. It is rated for high temp and is easy to handle.  This stuff worked great!  No leaks and easy clean up.  Get it at a pool store.  Not cheap but IMHO it is the thing for o-rings and valve cover gaskets.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2006, 06:42:10 PM »
A smear of grease has always worked well for "sticking" gaskets in place.  I probably wont change.  hehe

Blue


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I do not see how you can get the spark plug tower gaskets to stay put while you install the cam cover without some sort of adhesive. Using gasket bond is much easier on the half moon plugs on the ends of the cam cover gasket also. Its even called for in the factory service manual.

Been using the stuff for 20+ years with no side effects.


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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2006, 12:46:40 AM »
Quote from: Red01
Chain lube = Honda Red can
Grease = Boat trailer grease (will stand total submersion in water - been using it on my Jeeps for eons)
Gasket adhesive = Mopar black silicone (got it free from a friend at a Jeep dealership - when it's not around, Permatex is fine, too)
Cables - Dupont's Teflon spray lube from Lowe's


i bought a bike a month ago and don't know what honda red can is. can you please elaborate? also let me know where i can find some? is application relatively simple? just a toothbrush and a rag?
it seems the previous owner applied some kind of thick oil. it has left streaks of oil on the rear fork. how do i clean that up?

thanks