Bandit Alley
GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: SmokeyAndTheBandit on February 11, 2008, 07:46:42 AM
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Right now I only have a tank bag. But this summer I'd like to go on a few 2 or 3 day camping trips so I'm going to need more luggage. I'm not interested in spending $500+ for hard luggage. I'd like maybe some soft bags or maybe just a decent sized tail bag. I don't need to carry more than the essentials. What are some good options for me? Anyone have any pics of their luggage?
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Here's a pic of what I use for travel:
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d35/paulweit/2005%20Bike%20trip/020c.jpg)
A Joe Rocket "Sport" tank bag (no longer a 'current' model, but is still available from some retailers - here's one (http://www.helmetsetc.com/detail.asp?product_id=080-0200)) and a 45L Ventura Bike Pack system (http://www.cycleventure.com/products/pack_system/index.htm) The current kit comes with a 51L bag now. It retails for $375 (can be found online for less) and comes with brackets for interchangeable racks, a Sport Rack (normal looking luggage rack), Pack Rack (luggage rack with a tall loop for attaching Bike Packs) and the pack itself. The pack just slips over the loop on the rack and attaches with a couple of straps with buckles, making it quick and easy to install & remove the bag. The bag can be positioned on the forward side of the loop if you're riding solo, leaving the rack exposed for mounting more suff, or just to keep the weight forward. For 2-up duty, or if (like me) you like having the room to swing your leg over the seat, you can mount the pack on the back side of the loop on the rack. The interchangeable racks slip in/out of the backets and are locked in place with knurled screws and jambnuts. At least on the 2G B6/12, even the brackets can be removed in a couple of minutes if you don't want them on the bike. This setup does carry your luggage weight higher than saddle bags, but if you're travelling light and aren't packing heavy stuff, the CG difference isn't that great and this kind of setup will not rub against any painted parts, which is a plus for me.
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Hmm... I didnt see any mounts for 1st gen bandits. What does yours mount to? I no longer have grab rails on my bike so I can't mount anything there.
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:lol: Their fitting guide (http://www.cycleventure.com/products/pack_system/fitting.htm) shows how to install a typical system - and they use a 1G for their demo. :bandit: The 2G mounts the brackets to the grab rail and front bungee spool points, but the 1G mounts differently, as you can see by looking at their fitting guide link.
The 1G is still listed on their Suzuki Applications (http://www.cycleventure.com/fitments/display.asp?manufacturer_id=12) page.
The part number for the 1G's Tour Kit (like I mentioned above) is # KS1068
Here's the link that lists all their stuff available for the 1G B12 (http://www.cycleventure.com/order_now/more.asp?fitment_id=162)
And for the 3G/4G 650/1200/1250 owners, they have kit for those, too.
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They don't list anything for the 1G B6, would the 1200 kit work?
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I use the Tourmaster/Cortech sport tail bag and saddlebags. The tail bag has bungee clips that can hook onto any part of the frame you have available, while the saddlebags wrap around your frame and rear section. You can see the sport tail bag here:
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/product.php?productid=148&cat=31
Apparently they are no longer selling the saddlebags, as they don't have any links to either the sport saddlebags pictured here:
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/home.php?cat=31
or the larger capacity "TriBag" saddlebags pictured here:
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/product.php?productid=234&cat=44
It's unfortunate, as the sport bags have been perfect for me, they aren't overtly large and fit on my B4 without hitting the exhuast and still allowing for a passenger if needed. The tail bag converts to a backpack if you're carrying a passenger. The larger TriBags certainly seemed handy if you needed the extra space.
If the sport saddlebags interest you, there may still be stock available from dealers.
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Now that's more of the price I was looking to spend! I have a Cortech tank bag and the quality is great! I checked ebay and you can get the sport saddlebags on there. This may be the route I go.
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They don't list anything for the 1G B6, would the 1200 kit work?
:lol: Yes, they do list the 1G B6... "GSF 600 Bandit 1996-1999" is shown ~80-90% towards the bottom of the Suzuki Apps page I linked earlier, just below the SV650's and just above the GSX600 Katanas.
But to answer your question, yes, the 1G B6 uses the same kits as the 1G B12 (KS1068 for the Touring Kit). :bigok:
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:lol: Yes, they do list the 1G B6... "GSF 600 Bandit 1996-1999" is shown ~80-90% towards the bottom of the Suzuki Apps page I linked earlier, just below the SV650's and just above the GSX600 Katanas.
But to answer your question, yes, the 1G B6 uses the same kits as the 1G B12 (KS1068 for the Touring Kit). :bigok:
:duh: Not sure how I missed that...twice! The price for that isn't too bad either.
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I use the Tourmaster/Cortech sport tail bag and saddlebags. The tail bag has bungee clips that can hook onto any part of the frame you have available, while the saddlebags wrap around your frame and rear section. You can see the sport tail bag here:
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/product.php?productid=148&cat=31
Apparently they are no longer selling the saddlebags, as they don't have any links to either the sport saddlebags pictured here:
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/home.php?cat=31
or the larger capacity "TriBag" saddlebags pictured here:
http://www.tourmaster.com/xcart/product.php?productid=234&cat=44
It's unfortunate, as the sport bags have been perfect for me, they aren't overtly large and fit on my B4 without hitting the exhuast and still allowing for a passenger if needed. The tail bag converts to a backpack if you're carrying a passenger. The larger TriBags certainly seemed handy if you needed the extra space.
If the sport saddlebags interest you, there may still be stock available from dealers.
That is what I have and I love them..... Solo I do this
(http://www.tourmaster.com/images/vistas/c_31_1_n_0.jpg)
and 2 up I have a Holeshot back rest and rack so I mount the Sport tail bag upright on the rack/backrest. I think it is a great setup and on and off in seconds.
Brent
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Iron pony still sells the sport saddlebags! I can't wait for spring now! Next thing I need to find is a decent lightweight tent I can fit in those bags. One made for hiking/backpacking would probably be ideal. I'll probably have to strap my sleeping bag down with my cargo net. Anyone else ever do any camping on their bandit?
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Anyone else ever do any camping on their bandit?
Absolutely! Two-up with tent, tarp, queen size air mattress & 2 sleeping bags. It beats the day-lights out of the rear tire but it's worth it! I have a Givi rack (piled high) and two big hard cases so it's not that tough if you pack it just right.
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I just scored the complete cortech sport tribag, brand new on ebay for $170 shipped!
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>>I need to find is a decent lightweight tent I can fit in those bags.<<
Check these out:
http://www.rei.com/REI-Outlet/product/750075
http://www.rei.com/product/763164
Even if you ride alone, the extra room is good for throwing the bags in, plus you can sit up. The first one listed here packs to 7x20 inches, which should fit in the saddlebag.
And while you're at it, go for one of these:
http://www.kellykettle.com/
Slightly more adventurous:
http://www.jetboil.com/
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Hey that jetboil looks pretty slick! I may have to get one to take along my journeys this summer.
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I was showing the JetBoil to a friend and he mentioned this:
""Unfortunately, the stove uses propane gas canisters, which aren't very
eco-friendly. I own and recommend the MSR -fly series (Firefly, Dragonfly,
WhisperLite, etc - I own the Firefly, but recommend the WhisperLite model,
which came after). These units use liquid fuel and will heat up water just
as fast as the unit you point to. Two quart tanks lasted a full week of 3
meals a day use with plenty to spare. For ultimate efficiency in heat
transfer, get the recommended shield as well.""
Good point, I suppose, and this particular model burns multiple fuels, even what's in your bike tank if needed!:
http://www.msrgear.com/stoves/dragonfly.asp
If you're a real "down home" kinda guy, you might want to mess with one of these:
http://wings.interfree.it/html/main.html
And here's a stove that makes it's own fuel :wink::
http://www.stilldrinkin.com/
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Smokey, You may want to go to a web-site called campmor.com and they have a wide variety of lightweight tents for every occasion. You should be able to find a good two person tents that weighs in under 4-5 lbs. And oh yeah the jet boil is a really good set-up but for biking and camping you can find stoves much cheaper and much lighter and that are much easier to operate too!!!! Hope that helps. I order stuff off that web-site all the time.Banditone1250s... :burnout:
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Hey thanks for the website! I like how they give the pack size for all their tents. That way I can get something I know will fit in my bags.
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I've always used cheap gym bags , small duffel bags. Get 'em for like 10-15 bucks at wally-world. Last a couple seasons , pitch em when the straps and zippers start to go and buy some more !!
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The wife and I love to camp on our motorcycles. The bikes always intrigue the seniors who seem to inhabit all the campgrounds and they wind up feeding us so we rarely have to use the campstove . Life can be good :clap:
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I'm beginning to grow impatient with winter. I got all this great stuff for the bike laying around and I'm very ambitious to try it out. Anyone have any recommendations for great places to camp in the tri-state area of OH, PA, and WV?
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Towards the east end of PA is Ricketts Glenn State Park. Haven't been there in a while, but it was a lovely place:
http://tinyurl.com/235eno
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Looks like a nice place, I may have to add it to my list.
BTW, anyone know of any good luggage racks that mount without grab rails? I just need a small one. Banditmania sells one but I'd like to buy from a US distributor.
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IIRC, the rack Banditmania sells is made by Renntec, a UK based outfit. There are sources in the US to get Renntec products. Still, it may be cheaper to buy from the UK. Banditmania sells the rack for £43.40 (which as I type this is US $86.00), where Rev's Performance (http://www.revsperformance.com/renntec/sports_racks.htm) in Atlanta, GA sells the same rack for $118. Holeshot also sells the Renntec rack for the 1G B6/12 - but Dale asks $129.95 for it.
I doubt it would cost 34 more dollars for shipping from the UK than a US outfit, but I'm not sure what Banditmania's shipping rates are. I've only bought from the UK once, and it was from NWS and their shipping price to my place was only a couple of bucks more than a domestic retailer would have charged me, so their much lower price made it worthwhile for me to order from them. Shipping time from them was as good as a domestic retailer as well.
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Hmm thats not a bad price. Maybe I'll make something custom for my bike and luggage. That way it'll match up perfectly.