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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: aussiebandit on September 20, 2009, 08:02:44 AM
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One of the aussie forums I frequent regularly discuss the pros and cons of Hi Vis safety vests.
A local High School kid came up with this, thought I'd share it with you blokes.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2683544.htm
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That's pretty cool. :thumb:
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I don't know about cool, clever yes, cool no.
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Don't think it will catch on. Hope our stupid pollies don't read it they will try to make it law. enough stupid laws now don't want them telling us what to wear... :grin: :grin:
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We could be out of luck, it was on the ABC.
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But, wouldn't they also have to require all cars be painted in day-glo colours too?
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:thumb: Put some good thought into it. From what I've heard the third brake light came from a cabby who got rear ended and was told that they didn't see his brakes. So he rigged a third light and it caught on. Don't know if it is true, but I am sure something of the sort happened.
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But, wouldn't they also have to require all cars be painted in day-glo colours too?
That would assume the Government treats motorcycles on the same level has cars. I don't know what it's like in the US or Canada, but here in Oz we motorcyclists are treated as second class citizens.
Every time a Government body develops a 'Transport Plan' they include Cars, trucks, push bikes, pedestrians and in some cases horses, but never motorcycles.
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in some cases horses, but never motorcycles.
thats it i'm trading in the bike!
I find that here on the east coast of canada at least motorcycles are also forgotten. They wanted to offer free parking down town but it never seemed to work just right as it was basically 5 spots. They also like doing road construction and not putting up bump signs...
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There's a wireless 3rd brake light available for motorcyclists that just sticks on your helmet.
Not quite as visible as the kid's vest, and doesn't do blinkers, but if you don't wanna be quite so obvious, or don't want to be plugged into your bike, but still be more safety minded, it might be a viable option.
http://www.whitehorsepress.com/product_info.php?products_id=5361
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Hi Vis Safety Vests sorry not cool: Before long we’re all need them just to walk the street :annoy: I don’t about any one else, but If I riding good looking ride :motorsmile: do you really what to look like a big yellow lollipop I don’t. :annoy:
On the other hand light on the back of your helmet is not to bad idea, is it !! :roll:
If you ride motorcyclists you do need to be safety minded :bandit: you do need to know were you are on the road as well as were everyone else are to you :thumb:
yes like everywhere else over here in the UK motorcyclists are treated like second class citizens as well :stickpoke:
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yes like everywhere else over here in the UK motorcyclists are treated like second class citizens as well :stickpoke:
The US of A, too.
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Second Class? :yikes: You get treated that well?
What's going on around here? Nobody told me we got an upgrade! Most drivers around here treat bikes as though they weren't even citizens, it's good to know we're movin' up! :motorsmile:
On a Serious Note, if they will pull out in front of an 18 Wheel Semi pulling a Gasoline Tanker and then claim "I didn't see him", we have no hope. I used to ride with my Dad, once in a while, who hauled Gasoline for Publix, and Amoco (now BP) and you wouldn't believe some of the things I've seen.
That's why I don't think Bright Orange Vests will make as much difference as some want to think. They will help out to some degree, just like running with your headlight on, and other visibility techniques. And, I wouldn't discourage anyone from wearing them, especially at night, but don't let the guy that wears that vest get lulled into thinking he's automatically safe.
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No, i wouldn’t discourage anyone from wearing them who wants too :rant2:, But sorry not me, not while on the bike..
Hi Vis Vests have there place on work site :thumb: etc, but too much trust is put on them too many people who do wear them seems to think they are invincible.
I drive as part of my living and yes I would believe some of the things you seen, as I more then likely seen it for myself
Whether you wearing Hi Vis Vests or not, you still need to look after your self when riding and see other people mistakes before there cause you any trouble, this has safe me from go over someone bonnet (hood) many time in the pass, Don’t get me wrong I do wear bike gear, boots, etc, may I add when am out on the bike. :duh:
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Today I was in my car following an another car, when a car in a layby pullout in front of the car in front of me, We both stop in time, the car then, once again parked on the side of the road, while we had to wait for the other side of the road to clearer before we could pass the parked car, as we pass I had a look at the male driver who was reading a map, Who seam not to have any idea what he had just done, if this had been a biker whether they had or not been wearing Hi Vis Vests, would not have made any different, If the male didn’t see the car what chance does a biker have, other then reading the road head and taking someone else mistakes into account.
Read the road and stay safe & have lot of fun to all of you out there :motorsmile:
Last Post: forgot to say a helmet, one bit of kit that is law over here in the UK.
and hopefully this is my last word on this. :rant2:
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I have to say that while the kid's clever, most of the near misses I've had were from people trying to merge in to my lane, pulling out of side streets without really looking, or at round-a-bouts.
Personally I won't wear a hi-vis vest by choice, I just don't see the point. As I said to a bloke at work 'What can't you see, the big 220kg bike or the 5'11" 110kg bloke sitting on top of it'
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I know a young lad that I take along to the track once in awhile. His previous bike was a 600 Triumph Daytona in bright yellow. He had yellow leathers and helmet to match.Didn't seem to help any,car pulled out of a store lot,accross traffic and right in front of him. Totaled the bike,he was bangged up alittle but nothing broken.
My leathers are black,I like black. Instead of riders having to wear blaze orange or yellow,just have the cage drivers pull their head out of their ass. They will be able to see more clearly that way.
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I think the real answer to this visibility problem can be solved with this:
Holographic Vehicle Projector (http://www.aerostich.com/holographic-vehicle-projector.html)
Too bad this is one of Aerostich's puns... maybe someday something like this will be real.
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I think the real answer to this visibility problem can be solved with this:
Holographic Vehicle Projector (http://www.aerostich.com/holographic-vehicle-projector.html)
Too bad this is one of Aerostich's puns... maybe someday something like this will be real.
Given that some cage drivers don't see big red fire trucks or ambulances with flashing lights, I don't think even that would work. Although it would be good on a twisty mountain road to see the look on a drivers face when he looks in his mirror and sees a Combine Harvester up his clacker about to overtake....
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My idea about road safety is an open exhaust. Let them hear you before they see you....
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My idea about road safety is an open exhaust. Let them hear you before they see you....
I used to think the same, but when I ride my wifes M750 with Staintune mufflers (baffles removed), cagers still don't see or hear it. Either that or they are so rapt up in their own little world that that dont' actually notice ANYTHING unless it's right on top of them.
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Ever noticed that exhaust point behind you!!! so loud or quiet makes little difference until you are gone, think about it.
Dink
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Maybe you are just not loud enough Dink! You can hear a motorcycle if you are looking at it from the front. Unless you have 1.000.000 watts of stereo your car (which is incresingly common as are car-TV systems!)