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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => GENERAL MOTORCYCLE => Topic started by: B6mick on February 09, 2009, 07:24:09 PM
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I ok time to vent, oh shyte yes, a serious vent, but bear with me I’m sure you will eventually see my point even if you don’t agree.
What’s it all about Alffie? I can hear. It’s about the fires, I’m pissed off, natural disaster my ass. What is natural about a deliberately lit fire?
No I’m not just pissed off at the lowlife bottom of the pond scum sucking, brainless prick, who set the fires. F*#* no, I’m pissed at the greenie pandering government past and present, the greenies themselves, and the misery seeking goddamn rubbernecks.
Now I guess I need to explain all of the above.
The lowlife bottom of the pond scum sucking, brainless prick, who set the fires.
What sort of person, gets themselves off by doing this kind of shyte? Then again who, gives a shyte, pity them my f*#*en ass, death is too good for them, and way to quick for the miserable excuse for a waste of air that they thieve. I really hope that the cops catch them before the masses do, not for the sake of the toe-rag arsonist, but for the sake of the masses, and the single murder charge they could face. Which brings me to this single question, will the toe-rag if caught face 200 charges of murder?
Murder that’s what it is, premeditated f*#*en murder, not just of human life, and I don’t mean to lessen that by following up with murder of some of the most beautiful bush land in Australia. Bush land that I dearly loved to go trout fishing, hiking cycling, and of course the bush land that made my motorcycling such a joyous event.
Makes me kinda sound like a greenie don’t it? No F*#*en way would I stand for being labeled a greenie. NO I’m not misguided, the greenies can take a good share of the blame, for the loss of human life, the loss of the land, the trees and the wildlife, that they so proclaim to be the voice of.
You’re the misguided ones, and your bullshyte that you have been preaching about the bush has been just the cause of a huge region, might I also add all water catchment areas has been wiped off the face of this earth, the same earth you would have us believe your trying to save. But I guess you f*#*ers don’t really feel it too much, while you sit, drinking ya latte in some fashionable café with weird asses mate, thinking that your $5 donation to the red cross fire appeal, is doing your bit for the victims of the worst bushfires in the recorded history of this state.
Half of you pricks don’t even live in the bush, you live in the cities, you may venture out to the country side, but you really have no idea, about it. You still carnt understand the basic fundamental of fire management and control, and whole concept of forest floor fuel reduction. For many years the accepted formula has been 1 ton of forest floor fuel per acre, but since the greenies, and the pandering governments, have had their way this fuel load has in many parts of the region that is now gone, been well over 10 tons per acre and in parts 20 tons per acre. The argument for not removing this fuel, is not remove native habitat for native animals, well where is all the native animals now, there all F*#*ing dead, there crispy critters now. Well done stand up take a f*#*en bow, then go hang your collective heads in shame. Stay in the cities clean up your own mess.
Two to go, the Governments, past and present, and of course the rubberneck.
The governments who will cling to power by their teeth by siding some piss ant nobodies.
The governments held to ransom by this extremists, the same governments who kicked out of the high country the cattlemen, who cared for the land, looked after the land, no it may not have been perfect, but its gotta be far better than just locking the land off. The same governments who will not listen to their own departments, on the dangers of not reducing forest floor fuels. You too should hang your collective heads in shame.
Now the rubberneck, you gore seeking pathetic son of bitch, marshal law needs to implemented with a shoot to kill policy. For F*#* sake let these people who have lost families, their homes, their livelihoods, their everything, grieve. F*#* me standing, all the bodies still haven’t been taken out yet, the fires are still burning, townships are still under threat, the worst is still to be uncovered, the fight to control these fires is still on.
Just stay the F*#* outta here stop getting in the way and let those who are doing something, do it.
End rant, climbing down from soapbox.
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Hatred solves nothing. Hopefully those responsible will be brought to justice. But you're putting a lot of stuff in there that has nothing to do with the actions of one or a few individuals.
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Hatred solves nothing. Hopefully those responsible will be brought to justice. But you're putting a lot of stuff in there that has nothing to do with the actions of one or a few individuals.
You have totally mis-understood then.
The Australian media keeps calling these fires "the worst natural disaster in recorded history", obviously this is not true when most of the fires were delibrately lit!!!
However the whole situation has been made so much worse because of the lack of controlled burns "fuel reduction burns' I suppose there are several reasons why; to assauge the Greenies , it is cheaper to not have to send the manpower out for a controlled burn etc. all these and various other factors have contributed to these fires being so much worse than should have been. You understand worse dont you; at this point 173 dead, over 750 homes destroyed, and 700,000 acres burned out.
Dink
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I appreciate your rant. If you cut through the adjectives, mick makes sense. Between the govt and the greenies, you can't do what is needed to prevent the fires. And the people that set them, there are no good ways of disposing of them.
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I appreciate your rant.
+1..... Mick - First let me offer my thoughts and prayers to all who've lost not only their lives but to those who've lost their way of life in the wake of this tragedy. I'm sure the "nightly news" pics and vids don't begin to tell the story.
One thing I've always loved about Da' Alley is the international flavor and input we've received. You points are well taken (IMHO) and are certainly worthy of consideration. [Thanks for keeping it reasonably civil as well - modhat off]
Our left coast folks here experience similar acts of lunacy - I hope the perps are found and justice rendered.
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Sadly I must add, it has become personal.
With the passing of Gareth Jones Roberts.
I'm not going to get on my soapbox and rant, although I reckon I could give it a fare shot.
Shyte No this is about Gareth.
I 1st meet him when I was a cabbie, he needed transport for ongoing medical treatment, even in the pain he was in he always mustered the cheekiest shyte eaten grin, ya couldn't help but be happy in his presence.
In my darkest hours of my 1st marriage break up he could still make me smile.
A motorcyclist, an all round nice bloke, died with his unselfishness, trying to save his parents house.
Ya still make me smile mate…… R.I.P. :aus:
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Hatred solves nothing. Hopefully those responsible will be brought to justice. But you're putting a lot of stuff in there that has nothing to do with the actions of one or a few individuals.
:stfu:
The above posts are NOT of HATRED :duh:
They are of frustation. :banghead: :rant2: :banghead:
Hatred comes in the form of a bullet :gatlin
The murderous actions of 1 or 2 is one thing
The rest, whom must share equal blame.
Because of all the leasons we learnt from black friday in the 60's
ash wednesday in the 80's are still being ignored :deal: by governments, state, federal, labour, liberal alike. All pandering to the greenies. :duh:
Save the Bush doz in a greenie.
And as for the rubberneck, I think I've said all one can say.
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I appreciate your rant. If you cut through the adjectives, mick makes sense. Between the govt and the greenies, you can't do what is needed to prevent the fires. And the people that set them, there are no good ways of disposing of them.
Thank You.
We in this country will never ever be able to prevent fires, but we came lessen the damage, the losses. Government bodies, commisions, have for many years known that this exact disaster was going to happen, it was just a case of when. So much loss of life, property, the bush itself could of should have been prevented, by the simplest thing, the reduction of forest floor fuel.
Many of our native forests do and will survive canopy fire, but he fires we have had nothing survives, in fact many native gums require a conopy fire for the seeds to germinate.
Still today, in fact the 30 odd bush fires could link together, and with the weather looking like it will turn to the North again a fire front of over 100 miles wide would be far more devastating than it has already been. Our entire water supply catchment areas are at risk, meaning our already depleted water supply, (under 33%) will be fouled and unusable, for possibly years.
We used to conduct forest fuel reduction programmes, and it worked, the Abo's used do the same thing before white settlement.
Thank you to Dinks.
You being an Aussie would understand our bush, our people, and governments that so often fold to the greenies instead of listening to their own agencies, and the people of the land.
Lastest update 181 confirmed dead, with the number rising daily and still expected to rise, over 1300 homes gone.
http://mp3.news.com.au/hwt/Victoria_fire/index.html
The wind has shifted to a strong gusting easterly (Not good)
With an expected wind change from the North and hot wearther again in 4 maybe 5 days.( Even worse) Now if ya look at the link above, its easy to see how these fire could join up, with the aid of the easterly wind. Then change it all with a Northerly, Battern down the hatches. If it was hell last weekend, what are they gonna call this? Hell was its little bitch.
Now there is so many tales coming out from the bush fire areas, tales of lose, tales of shear luck, but this has to rate right up there with luck and irony.
One couple, are now having the last laugh so to speak.
They have been at logger horns with their local government after it fined them $30,000, for removing trees from around their home. Ironically it is a small price to pay as their house is the only house still standing in that effected area.
It is reported that the council (local government) is now rethinking it policy on tree removal from around private homes. Clever people these government people.
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Well Mick, that was a really great rant.
I am in total agreement with you about those low lifes.
Me and the boss feel for the people who have had their lives turned upside down and it is sickening to watch the TV footage at night in one way and heartening to see the bravery and resilience of those left behind to pick up the pieces. The authorities will deal to the felons in time and once their identities are known, there wont be any place for them to hide in Aus at all
On brighter note, its good to read your postings and to know that you are still humming :beers:
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It's been a long long long time since I posted here.
Firstly, my thoughts and prayers go to all the people that have been effected by this disaster (Mick you'll notice I didn't say natural disaster), the people who live in the area, the CFA, RFS, SES, Police, Navy, Army and Airforce and all the volunteers.
The Bendigo fire was within 1km of my brothers house, thank god the wind was blowing in the opposite direction.
"The Eldest" along with 44 other Army personnel from Watsonia are being deployed to Yea and/or Whittlesea. Their primary role will be admin and general support. Putting up more 11x11 tents, handing out blankets, serving food/drinks and just generally helping out where needed.
As sad and devastating as it is, it was inevitable, with extreme temperatures, reasonably good rain in December on no rain in January meant lots of dry fuel. What wasn't inevitable was the absolute fiercness fo the fire - this was because bugger all clearing had been done, I don't mean clearing acres and acres of bush, but the clearing of the undergrowth and who would have imagined that a fire front could move at 100km/hr. Add the fact the land owners were/are not allowed to make sure they have a 'safe space' around their property meant that they didn't stand a chance.
As for the morons that lit the fires. Some say they were deliberately lit, others say they were 'accidently' lit by people throwing cigarette butts out car windows. To me there is no difference and the offenders, if caught, should be gaoled for 25+ years. That may sound a bit harsh for the smoker, but I'm a smoker and on the odd occaison that I smoke in the car I use this wonderful invention called an ashtray, it's not that hard to use.
Sorry, it wasn't meant to be a rant, but I think it turned in to one.
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Thanks guys, well here is a couple of updates:
One toe rag in custody, to face Melb court monday, hmm I( wonder how many folk will turn up wanting a piece of his hide. )
Another suspected toe rag found dead after knocking himself off,
to gutless to face up.
Another toe rags mug shoot all over the media, best of luck to him.
Yet another toe rag in custody, for breaking into a primary school, and knocking off the school kids money raised for the fire relief.
Another for setting up a fake fire relief fund.
heres to hopeing they rot in hell.
1,800 homes gone.
with the death toll now expected to top 300.
But through all the doom and glome.
The aussie ethos lives on.
:aus:
We are not out of the woods as yet, the fires are still well alight, still threatening townships. In the hands of the weather gods at this moment, with expect wind changes to the nth and nth east and the temp to start climbing into the 30,s again, puts us in the firing line.
So still got our fingers crossed.
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Thinking of you and yours Mick, wish I could get some of this rain to head south for ya, hang in there mate.
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Thinking of you and yours Mick, wish I could get some of this rain to head south for ya, hang in there mate.
You guys seem to be having a monopoly on rainfall up there thats for sure, the far Nth under floods and us in the Far Sth getting roasted, feel free to send as much as you like down here, in the form of rain, or in a bottles, we sure as shyte gonna need it.
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Thinking of you and yours Mick, wish I could get some of this rain to head south for ya, hang in there mate.
Bigrus you seem to getting your wish, it is pelting down outside and heading south.
Dink
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Ya know I cease to be amazed at the knee-jerk reaction of some people.
Yep sit yourselves down I’m about to fly into one of my rants again.
A royal commission has been ordered into the fires and all the shyte that’s gone on with them, I suppose when it comes down to it, some ones butt is gonna get kicked, but I’m starting to wonder if the right butts are going to be in the firing line,
There is talk of an early warning system, cough F*#*en cough, arh hello, the reason no one had any warning was no one knew it was coming.
Arh hello the government did the day before hand, (cough, I know its very rare that I’ll stick up for governments) did in fact warn all Victorians that Saturday was going to be extreme, and that if a fire was to start, it was going to be hell on earth. What is it they fail to understand about that warning, was it not clear enough.
Now their saying and advocating forced evacuation, why don’t they just cut to the chase, and stop the crap. Go back to what we leant from Black Sunday, Ash Wednesday,
And go back to clearing the forest floor of fuels in the cooler months, we know it works.
Let the high country cattlemen back and open the national parks up again. Let people clear trees from their land to have a fire break around their house, all the commonsense stuff, that we knew 100 odd years back, Christ the abo’s did it since Adam was a boy, and Eve turned into a bitch.
Look who needs to spend millions of tax payer’s money on a royal commission, every man and his dog knows what’s required, just a pity ya can’t teach a greenie old tricks.
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I agree with everything you have said Mick, the low life should be put into genreal population when and if the lowlife scum go to jail, not into protective custody arseholes!!!!!!! (Mick I have family in Monbulk which I haven't kept in touch with are the fires close to them) Thanks Graham
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Graham, Monbulk is little more than a stones throw from here. As far as I know at no time has the township or its outshirts come under any threat.
Hope this info puts your mind at ease.
But as I keep on saying none of us are out of the woods yet.
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Thanks Mick,makes me think when my sister gets back home from overseas I'll have to get the phone no for the Vicky rellies from her and get back in touch (all female cousins that have married since I last saw them don't know their surnames) Graham :thumb: :thumb: :thanks: :thanks:
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As I said it ain't anywhere near over, we have just been given, a extreme fire warning for tomorrow, so its battern down the hatchs again. Mid 30 C temp and a gusterly Nth East wind to drive the fire back on us....
BTW Death toll so far 209, with the corona demanding the cops search again over ground they have already checked, so reading between the lines, the missing persons tally is still way way higher than the amount found......Numbers being bantered around 300 to 500 dead. over 1800 confirmed houses gone.
here is a couple of maps and the fires that at the moment directly impact on us, also remembering, all expected to flare up again tomorrow.
To the North East
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/incidents/images/news_image/KEM_Warburton_Area_PotentialFIZ_21Feb2009_A3_22133.pdf
To the South and East
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/incidents/images/news_image/BunyipSP_Media_Map_20090222_0735_22117.pdf
To the North
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/incidents/images/news_image/KilmoreEast-Murrindindi-Healesville_MediaMap_20090222_0700_a3_22123.pdf
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Yes we are still here.
Townships to our east have been evaced.but we fared better today than expected.
Hey Willo for f*#* sake now is the time to contact your relo's mate.
A new fire front has started up no more than 10 maybe 15k's as a crow flies from Monbulk, and there is nothing much but un mantained forest in its way. Should this gusting sth wind keep it up for the next day maybe 2 they are right in its path, if they don't get it under control pronto pronto. yah know what i'm saying.
The lastest updates I have are warning us that friday could be almost as bad as black saturday 2 weeks ago.
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So now the greenies and hippies poke their silly heads up (pity we can not shot :gatlin: them off as they bob their heads up into our sights), and start spouting their Bullshyte rhetoric. :no-no:
What does it take to get these drug f*#*ed morons to understand, that they have had it their way, it ended in the states single worst disaster, since written :deal: history started.
Now we, who have chosen to live in the country, want the right to look after our properties as we see fit. We, who live in the country, want the right to protect our families, to protect the Great Divide, the critters that normally would live there, and the natural beauty that it exhumes.
The Greenies, hippies along with spineless government idealists, are now telling us, we need to spend millions of dollars on early warning systems, :yikes: compulsory evacuations :crazy:, new fire resistant building codes, as well as fire bunkers :banghead:.
Hello is there something I ain’t seeing here.
What is wrong with just plain old fire prevention……? :stickpoke:
No, your right we can never ever stop fires, but we can lessen there impact, we can prevent the fire storm, we know we can, it’s been done for generations.
Then why is it so, that we have to put up with this shyte….? :soapbox:
We are to have a few of the greatest Aussie bands reforming to play gigs to help raising money for the bushfire appeals. Bands like Midnight oil, cough f*#*en cough, Mr. Peter Garret, please just f*#* off, you’re the typical greenie dumb f*#* that helped cause this disaster, being the federal minister for the environment :deadhorse:. What did your policy help save?, the critters, no they are mostly dead (the dead ones are the lucky ones, spare a thought for those critters unable to feed, injured just lying there in the middle of butt f*#* nowhere, just waiting to die) the trees, the same, dead, the water catchment areas, there f*#*ed and maybe soon could be rendered useless for years to come, the air quality carbon outputs, cough f*#*en cough :rant2:. Ya did a great job didn’t you Peter, you where a arrogant prick back then, as you are now,(remembering that for many years I worked in rock and roll). Stop trying to play the Mr. do-gooder its way to late. Ya can pull the wool over the eyes of most the people, for a little time, the wool has now been burnt off, now what? :poopfan:
But there is a light at the end of the tunnel, one local MP, a cough f*#*en cough a liberal party sitting member, has actually spoken some common sense. And has told the government that it should withhold it’s funding for infrastructure, until forest floor fuel reduction has been undertaken by the local governments, to the satisfaction of the federal government…..Here, here, Fran Bailey :worship: ya getting my vote, at last someone in government with half a brain, that can see through all the bullshyte, can see that we don’t need to spend 40 f*#*en million dollars on a royal commission, to get the answers we already know :duh: :annoy:. That’s got to be as silly as giving a University quarter of a million bucks to do a study, why the hell, prisoners want to escape from jail. (Hey don’t laugh to loud boys and girls; it was an American government who did that one). :banghead: :banghead: : :banghead:
But on a happier note I got to do some work on the bikes getting ready for the Redbacks, once bitten rally :beers: :beers: :beers:
Took the B6 out for a quick spin, poor thing, it really was an angry little ant, with a huge assed flat spot, coming off the intermediate jets and onto the mains.
So back on the stand, drained the carbs, oh yuk, big loads of water, so a good old doss of metho, and some fresh fuel, another blat down the line to Lilydale and back had her running like a happy little vegemite, damn the B6 is still so much fun :grin:, I really have to keep a lid on things when I jump aboard it, to many times I looked down at the speedo :duh: and seen 180s on the dial. :squid:
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And yet here we go again, f*#* i'm really over this bush fire shyte, at the moment I'm just about to leave and let the efen house burn :annoy: 60 to 90 MPH winds expected to hit us within the hour.
But me bike is all packed for not this weekend but next, rally with the wagga redbacks.
Tent, 2 fold out chairs 3 sleeping bags(the missus needs 2 she's cold blooded) wet weather gear x 2, 2 gas burners to cook up a feed, blow up double bed, pillows x 2,and electric pump (the missus is a big sook) if she followed my lead she'd be to pissed to worry about a bed. 2 changes on clothes x 2. 2 bottles of red ned, 4 glasses and bottle corker. No room for the kitchen sink this time.
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/b6mick/P3020032.jpg
(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss344/b6mick/P3020032.jpg)
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Dayum, you should just get a trailer to hitch up behind your Zed... :beers:
I take it the mizuz is travelling a little lighter than you, eh?
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Dayum, you should just get a trailer to hitch up behind your Zed... :beers:
I take it the mizuz is travelling a little lighter than you, eh?
Trailer cough cough, no maybe a leadwing :banghead: she who must be obeyed, on the B6 lets see now 1 30 litre gearsack bag....
But truth be known, althrough that looks like a huge pile of shyte on the back of the Zed, it ain't all that heavy, in fact its lighter than a pillion. Now if I could dig up the photos of the xmas trip we did 2 years back when the zed was off the road, with a radiator ailment, now that was a load, all what you see on the zed plus a pillion. :yikes: made for real easy mono's, and sore ribs. :annoy:
Oh yeh the world must be ending, there is this stuff falling from the sky, I think I remember way back when, it maybe rain, but not sure. :yikes: Doh I'm a silly phucker, I should have known clean the B6 and send the woman back out to work as a motorcycle courier,,,,, what a great welcome back to the game, :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: she'd been gone for a little over an hour when I got a msg wet though and cold.
So there you go folks the dought and the bushfires are all my fault :roll:
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It looks like a smaller load than you had at the Rally 2 years ago.......
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It looks like a smaller load than you had at the Rally 2 years ago.......
Yep your right the 25 litre tankbag is missing. But still may use it for ballast :stickpoke: