Author Topic: The First American Korean Bike ;-) (Read 7564 times)

ttewejnodnarb · « **Reply #15 on:** November 11, 2006, 01:21:38 PM »

Toyotas are "Made in America" too.

Sven · « **Reply #16 on:** November 12, 2006, 12:23:37 AM »

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Ok, I am not American, so I can laugh at this one....
So now I am wondering, why is it that most American's drive Toyota's?

First, it's not a car, it's a bike. However, insert H-D joke here if you wish.

Uh, what are those brands of Canadian cars and bikes again?

I drive a Honda.

How about those ads for the Suzuki XL-7 that imply it's just like riding a motorcycle? Even hot MC chicks will try to pick you up when you drive it!

jimmym1296 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 12, 2006, 06:47:44 AM »

I only glanced at the article on the Fisher, but I don't have a problem with someone trying to do something different. At least he's not soaking the taxpayers for some start up money like those guys did in Minnesota trying to ressurect Excelisor I think it was. I've never understood trying to resurrect these old brands that have been gone for so long nobody really has any attachment to them except maybe a few very seasoned citizens. i'm old enought to qualify for an AARP card and I haven't met to many people who had Indians or any of these other brands no longer with us. It's neat to see them occasionally at a show but that's about it.

Banditclimax · « **Reply #18 on:** November 12, 2006, 11:44:55 AM »

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Anybody seen this? It's hilariously covered on Motor Cyclist as an "All Made In The USA" bike:

http://www.fischer1.com/

Yeah, it looks mean, nasty, and fast, even sitting still, but it also looks like that pulled back tank shape and seat position is gonna be punching you in the ribcage when reaching for the handlebars, or hard front braking. Heimlich maneuver anyone?

I don't know, maybe it's the angle of the photo, but it just looks very uncomfortable to me.

2005 B1200S

Bazza · « **Reply #19 on:** November 12, 2006, 11:14:55 PM »

Quote from: "Sven"

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Ok, I am not American, so I can laugh at this one....
So now I am wondering, why is it that most American's drive Toyota's?

First, it's not a car, it's a bike. However, insert H-D joke here if you wish.

Uh, what are those brands of Canadian cars and bikes again?

I drive a Honda.

How about those ads for the Suzuki XL-7 that imply it's just like riding a motorcycle? Even hot MC chicks will try to pick you up when you drive it!

When talking about the auto industry in Canada, one has to remember that there are 29 vehicles manufactured here.

Here's a list, in alphabetical order, of all the models being produced in Canada: Acura CSX, Acura MDX, Buick Allure, Chevrolet Equinox, Chevrolet Impala, Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Chevrolet Silverado, Chrysler 300/300C, Chrysler Pacifica, Chrysler Town & Country, Dodge Charger, Dodge Grand Caravan, Dodge Magnum, Ford Crown Victoria, Ford Edge, Ford Freestar, GMC Sierra, Honda Civic coupe, Honda Civic sedan, Honda Pilot, Honda Ridgeline, Lexus RX 350, Lincoln MKX, Mercury Grand Marquis, Pontiac Grand Prix, Pontiac Torrent, Suzuki XL-7, Toyota Matrix and Toyota Corolla.

speedytriple · « **Reply #20 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:02:02 AM »

not to say they are all bad but?! i have a chevy made in Canada and it is junk. so does that mean all chevy cars are junk? does it mean all products made in canada are junk? i hope not. and just to let you folks know suzuki use to get there motors for the sv from korea. when the patend ran out they started producing them for themselves. suzuki used there own gear box, but the motor was subcontracted on the earlier sv unit before they revamped them a few years back.

Sven · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2006, 12:04:34 AM »

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When talking about the auto industry in Canada, one has to remember that there are 29 vehicles manufactured here.

Here's a list, in alphabetical order, of all the models being produced in Canada: Acura CSX, Acura MDX, Buick Allure, Chevrolet Equinox, Chevrolet Impala, Chevrolet Monte Carlo, Chevrolet Silverado, Chrysler 300/300C, Chrysler Pacifica, Chrysler Town & Country, Dodge Charger, Dodge Grand Caravan, Dodge Magnum, Ford Crown Victoria, Ford Edge, Ford Freestar, GMC Sierra, Honda Civic coupe, Honda Civic sedan, Honda Pilot, Honda Ridgeline, Lexus RX 350, Lincoln MKX, Mercury Grand Marquis, Pontiac Grand Prix, Pontiac Torrent, Suzuki XL-7, Toyota Matrix and Toyota Corolla.

Dangerously drifting off topic here, but...

You first made the point that a Japanese brand was the bestselling marque in the US. No dispute there. But not one of the vehicles you mention is a Canadian brand. That's no different than the various Japanese brands that are assembled in US locations...point being, if you wanna gig US buyers for not buying US brands (and again, I have a riceburner bike and a riceburner car), you can't really claim anyone in Canada is doing any better at supporting the home economy.

BTW, I find it interesting how one article will claim that the reliability difference between US brands and foreign brands has become almost negligible, but then the next article will claim the ost reliable cars are mostly Japanese. The head swims...

CNN's coverage of Consumer Reports most reliable cars (CU is by sub only): http://money.cnn.com/popups/2006/autos/reliable/index.html

twigboy · « **Reply #22 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:33:30 AM »

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Uh, what are those brands of Canadian cars and bikes again?

they where called bricklands... and i miss them

Vidrazor · « **Reply #23 on:** November 24, 2006, 09:59:49 PM »

>>they where called bricklands...<<

Bricklins, actually, and unfortunately they were about as Canadian as the Fischer is American:

http://bricklin.org/BI_HistoryOfBricklin.htm

Great-looking cars, tho.

interfuse · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2006, 12:41:07 AM »

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>>they where called bricklands...<<

Bricklins, actually, and unfortunately they were about as Canadian as the Fischer is American:

http://bricklin.org/BI_HistoryOfBricklin.htm

Great-looking cars, tho.

Are you trying to say that because he was an American inventor that the cars he produced in Canada (with the Canadian goverment as the primary financial backer) aren't Canadian??? LOL. By that logic Fischer is as AMERICAN as baseball and apple pie!

Vidrazor · « **Reply #25 on:** November 25, 2006, 01:58:24 AM »

I guess you didn't understand my statement. My reference was that many of the components were imported from another country, in this case the US, just like many of the components of the Fischer come from Korea and/or Germany.

That's why I said the "they were about as Canadian as the Fischer is American." It wasn't meant to be a negative slant on the car, or anything like that.

r_outsider · « **Reply #26 on:** November 25, 2006, 03:16:29 PM »

Well, this train's off the tracks...

I don't know about the Fischer or the Hyosung. I don't think I'd buy one, yet at least. I'd rather buy a Japanese bike that I know will work, and will last a long time. The Korean brands will probably get better, but someone else can suffer through the growing pains with them, thank you very much.

As for this Canada vs. US crap, the two countries are so closely intertwined in so many ways that other than very minor basically regional differences, they're really the same damn thing. Americans are really just Canadians in a hurry. And Toyota is the number one selling car brand in the US, Canadians prefer the Honda Civic. Both like Ford and GM trucks more than Japanese trucks. And the Bricklin was a pile regardless of where it was built.

Now excuse me, I have to go jump in my Ontario built Ford F-150, gas it up at a US owned gas station(unless I stop at the Dutch one), go to Wal-Mart and Canadian Tire, eat at, I dunno, Quizno's or Mickey D's, and maybe pick up some stuff for one of the three Hondas, one Suzuki and a KTM for good measure. And maybe stop at Safeway for some groceries.

Bazza · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2006, 04:59:43 AM »

Quote from: "r_outsider"

Well, this train's off the tracks...

I don't know about the Fischer or the Hyosung. I don't think I'd buy one, yet at least. I'd rather buy a Japanese bike that I know will work, and will last a long time. The Korean brands will probably get better, but someone else can suffer through the growing pains with them, thank you very much.

As for this Canada vs. US crap, the two countries are so closely intertwined in so many ways that other than very minor basically regional differences, they're really the same damn thing. Americans are really just Canadians in a hurry. And Toyota is the number one selling car brand in the US, Canadians prefer the Honda Civic. Both like Ford and GM trucks more than Japanese trucks. And the Bricklin was a pile regardless of where it was built.

Now excuse me, I have to go jump in my Ontario built Ford F-150, gas it up at a US owned gas station(unless I stop at the Dutch one), go to Wal-Mart and Canadian Tire, eat at, I dunno, Quizno's or Mickey D's, and maybe pick up some stuff for one of the three Hondas, one Suzuki and a KTM for good measure. And maybe stop at Safeway for some groceries.

Oh, and by the way, I own a Chevy, Pontiac & Ford.

I stay the hell away from Wall mart though, they are evil!

Canadian tire is selling a Chinese line of ATV's & off road bikes here, and let's just say you get what you pay for from what I have seen.

Farre · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2006, 05:19:06 PM »

Apple pie is american??? WTF!

Do i have to pay extra taxes if i'm eating one that hasn't been made in the USA?

r_outsider · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2006, 10:15:08 PM »

Quote from: "Bazza"

Canadian tire is selling a Chinese line of ATV's & off road bikes here, and let's just say you get what you pay for from what I have seen.

Yeah, I've seen those things in St. Albert as well. They're Chinese built, with cheap Honda clone engines. The bikes look like they'd fall apart loading them in the truck, and what's with the rake? Chopper flop in the dirt would be bad. No way I'd put my kid on one.