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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2007, 12:17:04 PM »
Your right, but in summer time down here in 110-120 degree heat, I just can't be that sadistic to my body and have to have some pain free relief (shorts & bicycle helmet) when riding. Otherwise what is the point of riding at all on two wheels anyway if your physically miserable and have a heat stroke, which in it self is an accident waiting to happen. There is a balance in all risk assessment, even walking has a risk and thousands of people die each year from head and neck injuries from simply tripping without a helmet. I'm not trying to justify not wearing one, I'm just saying there may be circumstances where risk is necessary to have quality of life.

Just because you aren't going fast or far, the same results could happen.  Just my 2 cents.  I dress the same for short trips as I do for long trips.
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2007, 02:32:15 PM »
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I'm just saying there may be circumstances where risk is necessary to have quality of life.

Think about what you said.  If it is just that miserable for you to ride, then drive a car and turn the a/c on.  I rode my bike in the heat of day this last Summer to California.  I tried to leave early in the morning but wasn't able too.  I made it safely by stopping when I needed to stop.  It took me a bit longer to get there, but I made it safetly.  Basically I look at our Summers like other's Winters.  They have a few months where they are limited to weather as do we.
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2007, 02:45:34 PM »
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I'm just saying there may be circumstances where risk is necessary to have quality of life.

Think about what you said.  If it is just that miserable for you to ride, then drive a car and turn the a/c on.  I rode my bike in the heat of day this last Summer to California.  I tried to leave early in the morning but wasn't able too.  I made it safely by stopping when I needed to stop.  It took me a bit longer to get there, but I made it safetly.  Basically I look at our Summers like other's Winters.  They have a few months where they are limited to weather as do we.
Are you telling that it is too hot to ride arizona in summer? :?:Death valley?
I never heard this before.

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2007, 02:52:50 PM »
Death Valley is definitely hotter.  Never ridden it before and don't plan too.  It is below sea level, so it gets super hot.
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2007, 04:01:17 PM »
Actually in mid summer I only ride very early in the morning before it gets hot 6am -8am (my morning ride) and mostly off road on my plated CRF450X. With all my outer armor chest /back protector, knee & elbow pads, kidney belt, MX boots and DOT approved bicycle helmet, wearing a T-shirt & shorts and lots of PF60 sun block. I mid summer I wear the same outfit when riding my street bike locally as its too hot to go interstate. Anyway being primarily an enduro rider most of my crashes occur in the dirt and therefore predestined in odds of probability from occurring on the street as easily, also the higher level of reflexes and coordination that an experienced dirt biking has gives him a notable advantage over street only riders.   

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2007, 05:07:12 PM »
Gunner you wear full body armour for riding in the dirt but wear a "bicycle" helmet? Are there no rocks, trees hard ground were you ride?

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2007, 05:35:06 PM »
Hehe. Gunner and soloman live in Arizona. It's a desert, it gets up to about 120f in the heat of the summer (about 48 C)! They'll claim a "dry" heat, yeah dry like a BLAST furnace! lol

I live in Connecticut, the northeast US on the shoreline. Rarely does it break 100F, and I visit Ontario Canada and take my bike with me in the summer. The temperature isn't as high as Arizona, but the humidity tries to make up for that.

At home, on those really hot days I can ride without a helmet, but I'll keep the helmetless rides to around town, low speed stuff. Canada requires a helmet, so on those hot days and short rides, a half helmet would do the trick for me.

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2007, 05:55:26 PM »
Yes plenty. But remember summer is just one season the rest of the year here is comprised of two springs (no Fall season) and winter when I wear a helmet. In fact right now with the temperatures down in the chilly 50's I wear sweats all the armor and a full face street bike helmet which works great off road to keep your fast from freezing. It all boils down to balancing fun and risk, and if your uncomfortable doing it you ain't having fun my son and remember the days here are filled with sunny dry days all year round and the cool water of the Colorado where spring brake and London bridge fest coincide every summer. Doesn't look like sad CT faces to me.

More exciting then this LOL


Gunner you wear full body armour for riding in the dirt but wear a "bicycle" helmet? Are there no rocks, trees hard ground were you ride?
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2007, 06:28:26 PM »
Hell, I'm on the coast, the water tempers the cold in the winter, and the heat in the summer. I ride year round, yesterday had a nice ride, today we're getting sleet/snow mix but tomorrow that will be gone and I'll have another nice ride. The more I visit other places the more I appreciate the moderate shoreline climate here. With a snowmobile suit I got last winter, I'm toasty.

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2007, 03:07:44 AM »
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I'll keep the helmetless rides to around town, low speed stuff.

That just reminded of a guy here in Phoenix some years back riding a Harley without a helmet.  He died at a stop light with no other vehicles around.  How did he die?  Well when he put his foot down at the stop light, he slipped on some oil and fell sideways.  He hit his head on impact and died on scene.
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2007, 03:21:32 AM »
Yup you need something on your head and those bicycle helmets are designed pretty good for landing on your head at speed, just ask all those tour de France bicyclist who landed on there head at 35 MPH, none of them died so there is some protection albeit minimal compared to a full face no doubt. Im sure the Harley guy would still be around. Don't worry I'm sure airbag suits are right around the corner.
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2007, 03:36:29 AM »
Actually the airbags are already in work for Goldwings.
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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2007, 10:21:06 AM »
In Finland it's illegal to drive without a helmet. Thought of driving without helmet has never crossed my mind.

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2007, 01:10:30 PM »
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I'll keep the helmetless rides to around town, low speed stuff.

That just reminded of a guy here in Phoenix some years back riding a Harley without a helmet.  He died at a stop light with no other vehicles around.  How did he die?  Well when he put his foot down at the stop light, he slipped on some oil and fell sideways.  He hit his head on impact and died on scene.

Hope he wasn't a friend or something, cuz that's kind of funny. Really when you think about it, that guy needed a helmet to stand on a sidewalk.

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Re: Scorpion Half Helmet
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2007, 01:32:09 PM »
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that guy needed a helmet to stand on a sidewalk.

Don't quite understand that comment, but ok.  No, I didn't know the guy, just heard about it from a cop that I knew a while back.
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