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GENERAL MOTORCYCLE FORUMS => PRODUCT REVIEWS => Topic started by: scooter trash on November 14, 2007, 08:27:38 AM
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I do not know what type of helmets you prefer, but I like half helmets. Therefore, if you are like me then I have got the neatest helmet made yet. Scorpion / EXO-100 SERIES. It has so many features and is only $99.00. The coolest feature is the EverClear® no-fog retractable sun visor. It goes up into the helmet. Some of the other features include easily removable and washable KwikWick™ moisture-wicking breathable helmet liner and cheek pads, and its DOT Certified. It has one feature that they do not advertise. There is a snapped pocket around the back of the skirt to hold the wire for your earphones and snapped pockets in the sides of the cheek pads for speakers.
I bought one and am very pleased with it. It is very comfortable and the visor eliminates me having to carry goggles (which I hate more than full-face helmets). Used it in the rain in the cold and in the heat of summer without any complaints.
Here are two sites. The main Scorpion site does not show the sun visor in the down position.
I like it and if you like half helmets try it.
http://shopping.scorpionusa.com/C55D9C025BA44D11A3713BF0D546303C.asp?cat_id=FBF05AC4DB8843C1B0FF76893F5540D5&pcs_key=F4C6450651964872B858D79013AFA8B5&retpage=%2FF4BD78EED51D4762989F1184B1165B96%2Easp&nm=Solid&spath=&path=Home+%3E+Equipment+%3E+Helmets+%3E+Street+Helmets&sc_id=BF94F1DAC3BB430E9232DC66891671AD (http://shopping.scorpionusa.com/C55D9C025BA44D11A3713BF0D546303C.asp?cat_id=FBF05AC4DB8843C1B0FF76893F5540D5&pcs_key=F4C6450651964872B858D79013AFA8B5&retpage=%2FF4BD78EED51D4762989F1184B1165B96%2Easp&nm=Solid&spath=&path=Home+%3E+Equipment+%3E+Helmets+%3E+Street+Helmets&sc_id=BF94F1DAC3BB430E9232DC66891671AD)
http://www.helmetoutletusa.com/index.cgi?Function=Street&Detail=2138&Cat=Helmets&Name=EXO-100&Manuf=Scorpion (http://www.helmetoutletusa.com/index.cgi?Function=Street&Detail=2138&Cat=Helmets&Name=EXO-100&Manuf=Scorpion)
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Hey scooter, thanks for the referral. I wear a full faced helmet most of the time, but have been looking for a open/half helmet for hot weather. I like the idea of the retractable visor. Price is right too, I don't want to pay a lot for an occaisional helmet.
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You will not be disapointed. I have the light gray shield and it is light enough to be used at night and dark enough for day time (except when driving into the sun). :beers:
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I see they have them at CycleGear near me for $109. I guess a wash price wise with shipping. Still deciding tho, I was going to get 2 helmets, one for my passenger and they have a shorty helmet for $29. Like I said, this is just for those really hot days for short or slower rides when I visit Ontario with a helmet law.
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Although I'm not a half-helmet guy, I've sung Scorpion's priases here before. I have the EXO-700 and am really pleased. Since you mentioned the removable lining, I will say be careful of the snaps that attach it. The first time I tried to take mine apart, the back of one of the snaps pulled out.
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I am not a half or 3 quarter helmet guy mself either. I prefer to keep my face in tack in an accident. Regardless, I bought a scropion helmet as well and really like the fit as well. Best $70 helmet that I ever bought.
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Just curious, how do you cope with the heat of the summer in Phoenix?
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As far as the helmet goes? Or riding in general?
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Helmet, in keeping with this topic.
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Easy, staying covered is better in hot weather. To have the sun directly hitting you and to have the hot wind directly hitting is far worse. When I stop at a light or going low speed, I will raise the shield just a tad to allow some air flow in. It is a common misconception that being less covered is better.
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I guess different geography requires different methods. I had to think back to my visits to AZ and Phoenix, you don't have much shade. When I am at home in CT, most of my favorite roads are tree lined and shady. On those really hot days at home, maybe if I had a half helmet that worked well, I might wear it.
My interest in a half helmet is for summer rides in Ontario, last year I was just dying in my full face helmet. Even a 5 min trip and my head was drenched at times. They've got a helmet law, so need something, plus their streets and highways aren't exactly tree lined either.
Cover is good, with a lighter color half helmet, the top provides shade, they usually even have a visor extending over the shield probably providing more shade than a full helmet. The added airflow has got to help the rest of the head. I haven't found a full face helmet yet, that those fancy vents actually do much.
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To be honest, I rather have a little discomfort than to have my face wiped off in an accident. I have seen many accident and have been in a few myself. What i have found is that a majority of the time the most damage is in the face area.
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Well, I too have and wear 90% of the time a full face. The occaisions where I'd want a half helmet is really on very hot days, and for those short trips in town, or from one town to the next. I just as soon take the bike for a trip to the bank, store, coffee etc, low speed riding conditions. The convienance would be worth it, otherwise for those same trips I might as well take the cage and have a/c. I'd rather take the bike any day.
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The only time I do not wear a full face helmet is on short tips or off road but for me even a half helmet is too hot in 110 Deg. weather so I wear a bicycle helmet as it is very light and the slots at the top keep my brain from cooking. But when ever possible a full face is what I use. Here in AZ there is no helmet law yet but the liberals moving here from Cali are working on it.
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Just because you aren't going fast or far, the same results could happen. Just my 2 cents. I dress the same for short trips as I do for long trips.
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Your right, but in summer time down here in 110-120 degree heat, I just can't be that sadistic to my body and have to have some pain free relief (shorts & bicycle helmet) when riding. Otherwise what is the point of riding at all on two wheels anyway if your physically miserable and have a heat stroke, which in it self is an accident waiting to happen. There is a balance in all risk assessment, even walking has a risk and thousands of people die each year from head and neck injuries from simply tripping without a helmet. I'm not trying to justify not wearing one, I'm just saying there may be circumstances where risk is necessary to have quality of life.
Just because you aren't going fast or far, the same results could happen. Just my 2 cents. I dress the same for short trips as I do for long trips.
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I'm just saying there may be circumstances where risk is necessary to have quality of life.
Think about what you said. If it is just that miserable for you to ride, then drive a car and turn the a/c on. I rode my bike in the heat of day this last Summer to California. I tried to leave early in the morning but wasn't able too. I made it safely by stopping when I needed to stop. It took me a bit longer to get there, but I made it safetly. Basically I look at our Summers like other's Winters. They have a few months where they are limited to weather as do we.
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I'm just saying there may be circumstances where risk is necessary to have quality of life.
Think about what you said. If it is just that miserable for you to ride, then drive a car and turn the a/c on. I rode my bike in the heat of day this last Summer to California. I tried to leave early in the morning but wasn't able too. I made it safely by stopping when I needed to stop. It took me a bit longer to get there, but I made it safetly. Basically I look at our Summers like other's Winters. They have a few months where they are limited to weather as do we.
Are you telling that it is too hot to ride arizona in summer? :?:Death valley?
I never heard this before.
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Death Valley is definitely hotter. Never ridden it before and don't plan too. It is below sea level, so it gets super hot.
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Actually in mid summer I only ride very early in the morning before it gets hot 6am -8am (my morning ride) and mostly off road on my plated CRF450X. With all my outer armor chest /back protector, knee & elbow pads, kidney belt, MX boots and DOT approved bicycle helmet, wearing a T-shirt & shorts and lots of PF60 sun block. I mid summer I wear the same outfit when riding my street bike locally as its too hot to go interstate. Anyway being primarily an enduro rider most of my crashes occur in the dirt and therefore predestined in odds of probability from occurring on the street as easily, also the higher level of reflexes and coordination that an experienced dirt biking has gives him a notable advantage over street only riders.
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Gunner you wear full body armour for riding in the dirt but wear a "bicycle" helmet? Are there no rocks, trees hard ground were you ride?
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Hehe. Gunner and soloman live in Arizona. It's a desert, it gets up to about 120f in the heat of the summer (about 48 C)! They'll claim a "dry" heat, yeah dry like a BLAST furnace! lol
I live in Connecticut, the northeast US on the shoreline. Rarely does it break 100F, and I visit Ontario Canada and take my bike with me in the summer. The temperature isn't as high as Arizona, but the humidity tries to make up for that.
At home, on those really hot days I can ride without a helmet, but I'll keep the helmetless rides to around town, low speed stuff. Canada requires a helmet, so on those hot days and short rides, a half helmet would do the trick for me.
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Yes plenty. But remember summer is just one season the rest of the year here is comprised of two springs (no Fall season) and winter when I wear a helmet. In fact right now with the temperatures down in the chilly 50's I wear sweats all the armor and a full face street bike helmet which works great off road to keep your fast from freezing. It all boils down to balancing fun and risk, and if your uncomfortable doing it you ain't having fun my son and remember the days here are filled with sunny dry days all year round and the cool water of the Colorado where spring brake and London bridge fest coincide every summer. Doesn't look like sad CT faces to me.
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More exciting then this LOL
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Gunner you wear full body armour for riding in the dirt but wear a "bicycle" helmet? Are there no rocks, trees hard ground were you ride?
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Hell, I'm on the coast, the water tempers the cold in the winter, and the heat in the summer. I ride year round, yesterday had a nice ride, today we're getting sleet/snow mix but tomorrow that will be gone and I'll have another nice ride. The more I visit other places the more I appreciate the moderate shoreline climate here. With a snowmobile suit I got last winter, I'm toasty.
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I'll keep the helmetless rides to around town, low speed stuff.
That just reminded of a guy here in Phoenix some years back riding a Harley without a helmet. He died at a stop light with no other vehicles around. How did he die? Well when he put his foot down at the stop light, he slipped on some oil and fell sideways. He hit his head on impact and died on scene.
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Yup you need something on your head and those bicycle helmets are designed pretty good for landing on your head at speed, just ask all those tour de France bicyclist who landed on there head at 35 MPH, none of them died so there is some protection albeit minimal compared to a full face no doubt. Im sure the Harley guy would still be around. Don't worry I'm sure airbag suits are right around the corner.
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Actually the airbags are already in work for Goldwings.
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In Finland it's illegal to drive without a helmet. Thought of driving without helmet has never crossed my mind.
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I'll keep the helmetless rides to around town, low speed stuff.
That just reminded of a guy here in Phoenix some years back riding a Harley without a helmet. He died at a stop light with no other vehicles around. How did he die? Well when he put his foot down at the stop light, he slipped on some oil and fell sideways. He hit his head on impact and died on scene.
Hope he wasn't a friend or something, cuz that's kind of funny. Really when you think about it, that guy needed a helmet to stand on a sidewalk.
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that guy needed a helmet to stand on a sidewalk.
Don't quite understand that comment, but ok. No, I didn't know the guy, just heard about it from a cop that I knew a while back.
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Well, he fell over at a standstill, at a height lower than if he were standing, so, I would imagine him falling down while standing would certainly kill him quickly.
Of course, that story comes from a cop, that heard it from a friend, of a friend etc..
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Well, he fell over at a standstill, at a height lower than if he were standing, so, I would imagine him falling down while standing would certainly kill him quickly.
Of course, that story comes from a cop, that heard it from a friend, of a friend etc..
No, he was on scene. Why would you assume, the "heard it from a friend, of a friend etc.."?
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Doesn't matter, it really doesn't even have anything to do with a bike, other than he was sitting on one. Freakish accidents can happen anywhere. It's just hard to imagine someone falling over from a sitting height and die from it.
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he slipped on some oil and fell sideways.
Like I said, he slipped on some oil when he put his foot down. It ain't hard to believe, I had a similar incident where I started riding again back in 96. I put my foot down and slipped. regardless, I must admit, a half helmet, bicycyle helmet, etc is better than nothing at all.
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Geesh, it's not hard to believe someone slipped on oil and fell over. The amazing part is someone would die from it.
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Whats harder for me personally to believe is some peoples attitude toward helmet use even in Canada where helmet use is law we have people who think it's an infringement of their rights. I personally will not ride without one. I always wear a full face, even when I go out on my son's RM I wear my old Shoie dirtbike helmet even though it's 22 years old. I have never won a half helet so cannot comment on what they would be like however I have seen guy's with roadrash on their face from a small 20 km/hr fall not pretty.
I realize that this may open a can of worms but think of this you only need to hit you're head once to sustain serious head trauma that not only will affect you, but you're family and friends as well.
How many of us have gone down and when we got back up checked ourselves out to find that there is a gouge on you're helmet and you think to you'reself wow I didn't know I'd hit my head.
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When Christopher Reeve broke his neck it was due to his hands caught in the reins of the horse which prevented him from placing his hands in front of his body to brake the initial fall, an instinctive move that protects us from breaking our neck. Now with the wide spread use of full face helmets in motocross and endure the predominant life threatening injury is broken neck death or paraplegic/quadriplegic injury especially since the helmet prevents the breaking bones in your face from absorbing the impact, the neck bends. So now they are recommending all motorcycle riders track, street and MX wear the motorcycle neck collar to help prevent spinal cord injury or decapitation which has a high likelihood of occurring in a face or head first fall especially in heaver adults but not so much young kids or teens. All that wight of 200 pounds bends the neck on the slippery helmet impact and snaps the neck spinal cord like a small twig. Here is the device which I have but rarely wear as it feels too restrictive. So I figure when I do wear a half face or bicycle helmet my skidding face acting like an eraser and impacting facial bones crunching under my 230 pound body will cushion and prevent a spinal cord injury.
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Whats harder for me personally to believe is some peoples attitude toward helmet use even in Canada where helmet use is law we have people who think it's an infringement of their rights. I personally will not ride without one.
I also believe helmet LAWS are an infringement, seatbelt laws too (at least for the driver). I think you said it well when you said "I personally will not ride without one". If it were your choice, you'd wear them.
LIke I said, on higher speed, longer rides, I wear a full face helmet. I'd feel naked without it on. During those really HOT days in the summer, to ride down to the beach on 25-30mph roads, eh, too damn hot. Having said that, I'm still going to try out a shorty helmet and see how that is on hot rides.
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Well you know those Harley's are heavy with allot of thick billet parts on the side. It's very possible he could have been leaning over too far and looking down at his suicide shifter and the bike fell on him. There are numerous stories of people getting trapped beneath their Harley's so it could be possible.
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How many people die in usa by riding motorbike?(one year)
In finland number is about 20.
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Lots Ippo Lots
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How many people die in usa by riding motorbike?(one year)
In finland number is about 20.
Here is a list that I found on motorcycle deaths per year in the States.
1997—2,116
1998—2,294
1999—2,483
2000—2,897
2001—3,197 (some NHTSA lists show 3,181)
2002—3,244
2003—3,661 (some NHTSA lists show 3,714)
2004—4,008
2005—4,553
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Finland 1 USA 3,75 If this proportion to population.
Ok you have longer summers.
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What is the point though? Those numbers don't indicate whether they wore a helmet or not, if they did what type, or whether the death was due to head trauma, and if it was head trauma, could the person have survived if wearing one.
America's high death rate on the highways is high for car drivers too! Maybe there is something wrong with the level of skill, the training, the enforcement, and curtesy on the road. Maybe there is something wrong when a 16 year old can walk into a dealer and buy a Hayabusa etc.
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Here is the European Motorcycle Accident Database
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What is the point though? Those numbers don't indicate whether they wore a helmet or not,
He just asked what the death rate is, that is all.
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Oh, sorry, I thought this was a thread about helmets.
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Sorry, it got a little off subject. :duh: I will try to see if I can find a death rate relating to helmets. Here, I found this...
With more motorcyclists on the road and fewer of them wearing helmets, the result is bound to be an increase in deaths and injuries," says McCartt. "Motorcycles are inherently risky, and when crashes occur head injury is a leading cause of death. The most effective way we know to reduce head injury risk is to wear helmets that meet federal safety standards. Wearing a helmet would have saved at least 700 motorcyclists' lives in 2005, an Institute analysis shows."
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Assuming they're correct, then of 4553 deaths in 2005, 700 would have benefitted from wearing a helmet, and 3853 of them it wouldn't matter.
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My god thats a lot of people!
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Assuming they're correct, then of 4553 deaths in 2005, 700 would have benefitted from wearing a helmet, and 3853 of them it wouldn't matter.
The last part of the quote isn't exactly true.
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Thats a high number, especially when you consider only 1100 people die each year from gun accidents. Something should be done to ban motorcycles don't you think! :duh:
Oh yeah in winter I wear a one size smaller full face helmet to keep my face warmer and wind out of my ears without plugs, it works toastie on and off road.
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You must be twenty years old before you can ride over 25 kw(34hp) bikes in Finland.
If you have not ridden "little bikes" then twentyone.
Driving lisense (car) you can get 18...
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How old must you be to get a license for a "little bike" in Finland?
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How old must you be to get a license for a "little bike" in Finland?
You must be sixteen.
Bikes licence in Finland:
M=15y-under 50cc
a1=16y-under 125cc and max 11kw
a=18y all size but max power 25kw
A=20y all bikes but 21y if you don't have earlier driving experience.
So you learn to drive step by step.
In every class you have to pass driving- and theory exam. At least two anyways.
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In some ways, I wish they would adopt something like that here. All too often inexperienced riders want to go for the cool look and go straight to the big bikes and then get themselves in trouble.
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In some ways, I wish they would adopt something like that here. All too often inexperienced riders want to go for the cool look and go straight to the big bikes and then get themselves in trouble.
I totally agree.
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As a parent I suppose I agree with you, but the kid in me that started riding Briggs & straton mini bikes when he 9, a Suzuki 185 Sierra at age 12 and from there ventured out into the streets at 14 says "no way man you guys are stiffs".
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As a parent I suppose I agree with you, but the kid in me that started riding Briggs & straton mini bikes when he 9, a Suzuki 185 Sierra at age 12 and from there ventured out into the streets at 14 says "no way man you guys are stiffs".
Big difference in horsepower between then and now. I think I am going to start a poll to see what people think on the cc idea.
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Well, I finally got over to CycleGear to check out the Scorpian Half Helmet, which they show on their website, but this store doesn't have them in stock. Since this was going to be hot weather gear, and I'll need to buy 2 of them, I guess I'll get the $29.99 kind.
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Congrats, thats a great buy and makes me want to buy one for summer.