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Offline stormi

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Hey All,

I thought it would be good to keep a list (eventually to transfer to the wiki) that would detail some of these parts.

It can really help us when we need one of those "emergency" parts.

Ideally, it would be helpful to  post references as well.

Regulator Rectifier:


Almost any bike with similar power output from the stator.http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/VoltageRectifierFAQ.htm
GS500 is a direct replacement -  http://www.electrosport.com/products/product-detail-576.php
I used one from a 89 Honda CB400 (it was in stock at Scona (Honda dealer), and also cost 1/2 what the Suzuki part did.) I just had to change the two pin connector on it.http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?topic=2305.0

Essentially, the two main concerns are: watts/volts/amps and the number of wires.

Don't get a regulator that's not capable of handling the power from the Bandit's stator (362.5W)
 
The regulator must have 3 yellow wires, plus a positive and a negative.  Suzuki uses Black for negative and Honda uses green.

Exact Suzuki Matches (based on part #) according to BikeBandit:
1989 Suzuki GS500EK   
1990 Suzuki DR650SL   
1990 Suzuki GS500EL   
1991 Suzuki DR650SM   
1991 Suzuki GS500EM   
1992 Suzuki GS500EN   
1993 Suzuki GS500EP   
1994 Suzuki GS500ER   
1995 Suzuki GS500ES   
1996 Suzuki GS500ET   
1997 Suzuki GS500EV   
1998 Suzuki GS500EW   
1999 Suzuki GS500EX   
2000 Suzuki GS500EY   
2001 Suzuki GS500   
2002 Suzuki GS500K2

Gear shift Link Rod: .

1985 Suzuki GV700GLF MADURA   
1985 Suzuki GV700GLF2 MADURA-2   
1996 Suzuki GSXR750T   
1997 Suzuki GSXR600V   
1997 Suzuki GSXR750V   
1998 Suzuki GSXR600W   
1998 Suzuki GSXR750W   
1999 Suzuki GSXR600X   
1999 Suzuki GSX-R750X   
2000 Suzuki GSXR600Y   
2007 Suzuki GSX R1000   
2008 Suzuki GSX R1000

Speedo Cable:

On the B4, single disk front wheel for sure: We can use the cable from a GSX-R750-1100  
Part # 34910-48B00

Dita was the test bike for this one.  r_outsider managed to snap this cable less than two weeks after pulling the ball off the throttle cable.

Bike Bandit says that based on that part #, these bikes are compatible:
http://www.bikebandit.com/search-products?q=34910-48B00&ch=1&sc=9&br=suzuki
1985 Suzuki SP250F   
1986 Suzuki SP200G   
1987 Suzuki SP200H   
1988 Suzuki GSX1100FJ KATANA   
1988 Suzuki SP200J   
1989 Suzuki GSX1100FK KATANA   
1990 Suzuki GSX1100FL KATANA   
1991 Suzuki GSX1100FM KATANA   
1992 Suzuki GSX1100FN KATANA   
1993 Suzuki GSX1100FP KATANA

Anyone have any other change up parts to add?
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 11:05:55 PM by stormi »
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 08:14:56 PM »
Brilliant :clap:
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2009, 03:50:36 PM »
Brilliant :clap:

Geez.. I thought you'd have a whole list of change up parts, Jay!  :stickpoke:

Ive been doing the same to the KTM too.  I get some of the weirdest looks from the new guys at Scona (Honda dealer).  

new guy at the counter: K, so what bike are we looking for parts for?
me: 1991 Suzuki Bandit 400, and a 2002 KTM 20 EXC...  :trustme:
ng@c: uhm,.. you know that this is a Honda shop, right?
me: yup, you're cheaper, faster and I like the quality of the parts you get me...
ng@c: uhm,... k,... what do you need?
« Last Edit: September 29, 2009, 11:05:10 PM by stormi »
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2009, 05:16:38 AM »
I suppose the Yamaha FZR600 caliper I have on the front doesn't count, does it?  (Whoever put it on used a custom mounting bracket.)

Are you looking for anything that works as a replacement part or only specifically known things that work?  IIRC, my pegs are off the shelf generic aftermarket Suzuki pegs.  My speedo cable is from 'something else' too.  If I can find the receipt, I'll post it.

Has anybody made a list of B4-specific aftermarket goodies?  That should be a different thread but I've only heard of three things, all here.  (pistons, sliders, and crash bars)
« Last Edit: September 26, 2009, 05:18:36 AM by mosquito »

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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 12:07:26 AM »
I was hoping for mostly parts that someone new to wrenching, and in need of parts fast/cheap/at all would be able to change without burning a bike down, or putting their life in (further) jeopardy...

But really, there's no reason we can't add it all to this list, as long as we have the info on what needs to be customized, so the reader can make an informed decision...

No list of aftermarket yet that I know of,... you can go ahead and start it if you'd like,... I currently don't contain that knowledge.  :grin:
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 05:40:16 AM »
Speedo Cable

On my 1991 GSF400, US model, my speedo cable is from MotionPRO, part number 04-0132.  The MotionPRO reference document says it was for a 1989 - 2000 GS500E.  The Suzuki part number would be 34910-11D01.

From the parts fiche (image attached at the bottom of this post):

GSF400 Speedometer Cables, two styles (I assume the other speedo cable is for models with two brake rotors):

Ref. Part Number Description
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26   34910-11D01 Cable Assy, Speedometer
27   34910-10D01 Cable Assy, Speedometer

28       ---     Not listed in parts fiche
31       ---     Separate bracket



Levers

These are common enough Suzuki parts, Iíve been able to find them hanging on a peg when I asked for them in two shops.  Going through the MotionPRO list shows these machines using the same levers:

Clutch Lever
Suzuki part number: 57620-27A31
MotionPRO part number: 14-0401

DL 650        2004 - 2006
DR 125SE      1994 - 1996
DR 200SE      1996 - 2005
DR 250SE      1993 - 1994
DR 350SE      1994 - 2000

GSX 600F      1988 - 2001
GSX 750F      1989 - 2003
GSX-R 600W    1992 - 1993
GSX-R 750     1986 - 1995
RF 600R       1994 - 1996



Brake Lever
Suzuki part number: 57420-32C00
MotionPRO part number: 14-0411

GS 500E       1990 - 2000
GSF 600S      1996 - 1999
GSF 1200S     1997 - 2000
GSF 1200SA    1997

GSX 600F      1989 - 2001
GSX 750F      1989 - 2003
GSX 1100G     1991 - 1993
GSX-R 600W    1992 - 1993
GSX-R 600     1997 - 2000
GSX-R 750     1988 - 1997
GSX-R 1100    1989 - 1998

GZ 250        1999 - 2001
RF 600R       1994 - 1996
RF 900R       1994 - 1997
RF 900RZ      1995
TL 1000S      1997 - 2001
VL 1500LC     1998 - 2004
VL 1500LC C90 2005 - 2006
VX 800        1990 - 1993
VZ 800        1997 - 2003
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 01:39:54 AM »
Hey mosquito!  Nice job!!   Thanks! :thumb:
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Blue - 02 Hornet 919 - Perfect Gentleman
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 05:49:33 AM »
But, of course. And you're welcome. :) 

My next post in this thread will be about dodgy-but-I-wanna-ride-now practices.  ;)

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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 01:23:58 PM »
carb rebuild kits 99% of the pieces work on the bandit well all the important ones.
gs500
gsxr750-1100
some katana's
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 01:21:41 AM »
carb rebuild kits 99% of the pieces work on the bandit well all the important ones.
gs500
gsxr750-1100
some katana's
 :beers: :motorsmile:

Thought gsx750 uses 40mm instead of 33mm like GSF400 ?

Al, since GS500 and gsxr750 has only 2 carb instead of 4 like bandit, buy two set of the maintenance kit which can be used to do the nandit's ?

PS - Sorry, just a noob question. It is virtually impossible to find gsf400/250 carb maintnance kit in Australia without buying it from US or Ebay, which seller operates from USA..


Opsss. my bad, just realise my GSF250 uses 30mm mikuni BDST, which the GSF400 uses 33mm Mikuni BST.
« Last Edit: December 22, 2009, 02:16:14 AM by innercent »
1990 GSF250 - Stock items with lots of parts need to cleaned and changed

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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2009, 11:48:04 AM »
Universal orings and needle
1988 gsxr 400 sp (sprint bike)
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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2010, 03:45:14 AM »
Anyone have any experiance swapping carbs from newer bandits or other bikes like the GSXR400?  My carbs are so totally driving me nuts I'd love to swap in something reliable...

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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2010, 10:31:01 AM »
If you search around there is not much that swaps well.  These carbs in this configuration were not used anywhere else, and there is nothing comparable, Ive read about some rigged setups with marginal results, but I have just been buying up every rack of carbs I can find for b4's, I believe the only reliability issue is the slide and guide wear, otherwise, hotter thermostat, make sure there are no vac leaks, and they should do fine...

If it comes to it, Im going to fuel inject mine.

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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2012, 01:50:54 PM »
Japanese import 1992 400 Bandit w/ dual front disks.

Front wheel bearings are 17x40x12 - interchangable with 99 SV650 front wheel bearings
Front dual rotors  - interchangable with 95-04 600 Bandit rotors

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Re: B400 Change Up Parts (Replacement, not upgrade or modification parts)
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2012, 02:23:45 PM »
Hey Phoenix,...

Thanks for that! Wheel bearings are an often over looked area of the bike too!!
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02 KTM 200 EXC - jetted, behaving well
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