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Offline b4cruz

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« Reply #30 on: May 18, 2005, 03:58:23 PM »
are iridium plugs really better?
or did i just waste money on the $2 markup?
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« Reply #31 on: May 18, 2005, 07:39:30 PM »
My coils popped at 25,000 Miles or 14 years. As for Platinum, Iridium, Silver, etc. Can you feel a difference? Do they last longer? IF you answered no twice, take note.
Andrew
PS Speaking of coils, can the Accel twin tower 2 coil kit for CDI work on 400M? Anybody?
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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2005, 08:48:38 PM »
Quote from: "Frankenstein"
PS Speaking of coils, can the Accel twin tower 2 coil kit for CDI work on 400M? Anybody?


You want the non-CDI coils. The ignition is electronic, but not CDI.
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« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2005, 09:28:20 PM »
http://www.cyclewareables.com/pages/ignition_coils/accelignciol.gif
4 CYLINDER, 2 COIL KIT  CW140403 $158  INDUCTIVE DISCHARGE  3.0 OHMS

thats about the same price as 2 OEM stock ones
what is the benifit of Accels?
or is it the same iridium vs regular issue?
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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2005, 09:29:33 PM »

4 CYLINDER, 2 COIL KIT  CW140403 $158  INDUCTIVE DISCHARGE  3.0 OHMS

thats about the same price as 2 OEM stock ones
what is the benifit of Accels?
or is it the same iridium vs regular issue?
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2005, 11:55:03 PM »
new wires
new plugs
new battery
new fuel
cleaned float bowls
new coolant seems to be circulating
      there is plenty in the reservoir and its still green
idle screw turned to the front so butterflies are straight up
all connections clean no crimps or tugging

sometimes it starts on the first click
sometimes it wont start and needs a blip on the throttle
sometimes it starts and idles at 7000rpm and starts smoking
sometimes it starts and won't respond to any throttle input
                  just idles at 2000rpm until you kill the choke
sometimes the headlight doesn't work and the highbeam indicator
on the instrument panel stays on but no light

engine  gets really hot quickly
its completely random
and its geting worse

what am i doing wrong!
 :duh:  :duh:
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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2005, 01:19:55 AM »
You should get a healthier spark with a good set of aftermarket coils such as Accel or Dyna.

You said you only cleaned the float bowls? You may need to clean more than that.

Three main things cause overheating.
    1. Cooling system problem (doesn't sound like the issue)
    2. Timing (I believe the timing is fixed on the B4 like it is on it's bigger kin, so that's probably out, too.)
    3. Lean carburation (can be caused by dirty passages in the carbs - can also cause engine speeds to hang)
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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2005, 01:50:10 AM »
i should leave the carbs to an expert
maybe I screwed up the carbs
i checked the passages and they all seemed clean
everything moving like I assume it should
from what i saw in the picture in the manual
I'm at the end of my means anyway

well, i gotta find a local bike shop
at least i can just take the carbs
don't have to put the bike on a trailer
hopefully this will solve everything
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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2005, 09:32:25 AM »
I hate to burst your bubble and add to your frustration but I'd take the whole bike.  I think that at least part of your problem is carb sychro.  The shop can't synch them off the bike.
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2005, 08:12:09 PM »
because I'm a lazy stuburn cheap bastard and I want to build a relationship with this local parts/service shop:
I'm leaving the bike at home, removing the carbs and having the local shop clean them and replace two screws that are getting stripped.
I'm purchasing a carb balancing tool there too.
When he's done with the carbs I'll take them back to my house
and balance them myself.

I plan to ask the shop to go with this modified stock setting:
110 main jet,and raise the needle up by moving the c clip down one groove. The stock location is the middle groove.This will get ride of the dreaded flat spot from 4000 RPM to 6500 RPM that we all know about.
(stolen from an old post from the old board, i forget who though)

Anyone think this plan of attack is wrong?
From what everyone thinks it can't be my black box/computer
or something electrical beacuse its starts and idles; it just runs funny.
Its got to be my carbs. They've been siitting for a long time now.

The manual explains the balancing pretty well.  As long as I can get the bike to run with the clean carbs at 1700rpm then I can do the balancing.
If not i'll be renting a trailer.


 :thanks: everyone for putting up with my blunders this far
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