Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: LosAngelesRyder on October 01, 2007, 12:36:46 AM
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Which is the best swinger and shock combo. I like the one sp model that gsxr400 is selling. Hey gsxr400 how is that swinger with the gsxr400 shock? Is it direct bolt in? If it is, can find me one? I'd like to get one from you.
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sp swingers are verey rare just happen to find two at the same time i can find a regular gsxr 400 one which is also aluminum and yest thewy bolt on but you need a tab and may have to change to a sv rear wheel
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do you have to have that tap? because i got that gixxer 400 and he put on an 05 rear brake, so the brace isnt there anymore. should i be worried about it breaking?
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ok how much for the regular gsxr400? with the sv wheel does that offset the chain? How wide of a tire could i run with it?
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talk to the guy that already mounted one
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yest thewy
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Dude - I can usually (after a few minutes...) figure out what you're tryin' to say. No clue on that one! :nutkick:
The SV wheel will run a 160.
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You need to turn your secret decoder ring to 5 and 7 :worship: ie.. (yes they)
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do you have to have that tap? because i got that gixxer 400 and he put on an 05 rear brake, so the brace isnt there anymore. should i be worried about it breaking?
Later bikes without the tab and strut arm,have the caliper on a slide that engages a slot on the inside of the swingarm.The mount/caliper can slide with the axle and rotor,but cant rotate since it located by the swingarm.Im not sure how the GSXR-400 had its rear brake mount located since there was no tab and no slot in my swingarm to hold a caliper mount.Its possible the mount was a "C" channel and slid over the swingarm's body.
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ok how much for the regular gsxr400? with the sv wheel does that offset the chain? How wide of a tire could i run with it?
Assuming the standard Gixxer 400 swingarm has the same dimensions as the SP model,it will go in just like mine.
The B4 cush fits the 1st gen SV rear wheel with no mods.No chain alighnment issues if you use the stock B4 left side spacer and cush.The right side spacer has to be cut down just a little,I used a belt sander to take off 2-3mm evenly.The SV uses a smaller rear rotor,so you need an SV rear caliper mount.
A 160 tire fits just great and clears everything provided you run the axle to the rear half of the slot.
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Thanks Steve, the sandard is the same dimensions not sure about the axle size as i thought they where all the same as the bandit. on the gsxr the brake arm mounts like the b4 but with a longer arm that conects to the frame.
cheers
jay
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swinger here ships worldwide (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-GSXR400-GSXR-GK73A-SWINGARM-SWING-ARM_W0QQitemZ150165048671QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10534QQcmdZViewItem)
and one more (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-GSXR400-89-SWING-ARM-PARTS-BREAKING_W0QQitemZ150147722010QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)
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so jay you are saying that the gsxr comes with a floating back brake? now i come from a mountain bike back ground and these help alot for when you need the suspension on to bind up and still need full braking power. since you come from a racing back ground do you think it would be wise to put the brace back on, so you get the full benefits of a floating caliper?
or even for the bandit boys you weld there brake on to the frame so they too can have a floating caliper
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well i had the tabs welded to their swingarms so they could retain the stock b4 brake arm and i figured it was easier than welding on the frame yours sound like what the rgv banana swinger is like and the newer gsxrs so hard to say what is better as long as it can not move in a circle when you apply the brakes it should be fine.
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well this is what the set up looks like on the back of my bike
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/190/dsc02940v1at2.th.jpg) (http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02940v1at2.jpg)
it doesn't have any c channel so i have no clue how it works
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nice buy kako, you ended up getting it? hey you may have to take more pics cause i can't see how he managed that one either. the stand is in the way or you may have to take the wheel off. he must have been pritty handy cause he only asked a few questions then sent me a picture months down the road of the finished bike. how do you like it? sounds neet i bet with the twins. cheers and email me any time and also keep it locked up as someone is reporting a stolen one up there on another board
cheers
jay
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So what are the advantages of the gsxr swinger over the b400 swinger?
I've got a vague idea, but if someone can spell it out, that would be good.
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It's lighter because it is aluminum and it's shorter by almost two inches. It brings the B4 into the same wheel base length as the GSXR400.
G
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Thanks Gary.
How does the swinger swapout affect the rear shock mounting points/distances?
I have two B400's - one's a beaut, one's a non-running dunger. I'm thinking about selling the runner and using the cash to rebuild the non-runner as a track weapon. That way I don't have to worry about pesky on-road compliance issues like lights and so on.
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According to all the info on this site they should just swap except for the brake caliper support.
I don't have mine yet. I hope to get one from England in the next month.
G
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According to all the info on this site they should just swap except for the brake caliper support.
I don't have mine yet. I hope to get one from England in the next month.
G
:grin:
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So the '89 gsxr swinger is a straight bolt-up to the '92 B400 (more or less)?
Just need to double/triple check before bidding.
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yes sir just have to have a tab welded for the brake arm
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Hmmm......question?
If the stock Gixxer has the rear torque strut attached to the frame,would that not induce some bind in the rear suspension under compression?
Even if the arm were allowed to pivot freely,it would induce rotation of the caliper holder as the suspension moved.The caliper holder is usually compressed tightly between the wheel spacer and swingarm,and while it can rotate,its not an easy thing to do since the axle nut is squishing the whole mess together.With the torque strut bolted to the swingarm,the entire unit moves as one,but attaching it to the stationary frame, would require some changes to the rear brake.
Is the stock Gixxer rear brake bracket fully floating on the axle?
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nope its the same as the b4 and moves enough with the suspension its a mile long the arm
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Huh.....actually,I think I probably figured it out.
If the arm's frame pivot is in the same location as the swingarm pivot,then the two would follow the same path as they swing.....hence no bind or rotation of the brake mount.
Since the swingarm's width tapers down a bit towards the main pivot,there is probably room on the frame,outboard of the pivot,to put the strut arm mount point on the same axis.
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sounds good