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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: SRwitt on September 03, 2006, 05:08:55 PM

Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: SRwitt on September 03, 2006, 05:08:55 PM
Alright, I've been on here off and on for the last year asking questions about my bike.  Since last summer I've been working on doing a top end on my bike a 91 GSF400.  Everything is back together after finding my head gasket was shot, since the engine was already torn down I decided to measure my bores and re ring it.  The bores all measured fine according to the manual so I re honed it, remeasured the bores (they were still within spec after honing) and got a new set of stock sized rings to put back in it.  Now the bike is reassembled and my compression is low on all 4 cylinders but it is equal.  I talked to a guy I work with and he said to redo the compression test but with oil in the cylinders.  My batteries kinda dead but I got to test one cylinder, the compression jumped dramatically which would say it's a problem with the rings.  Well when I reassembled the engine I applied an assembly lube to the cylinder walls,(meant to wash off by oil and heat) does anyone know if this could affect the compression readings? Or is it time for a new engine or order the Big Bore kit offered here and go for a full bore/hone.

FWIW before I added oil to the cylinders all of them tested between 70-80 PSI with oil in the one it jumped to well over 120 before my battery lost power.
Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: Thief400 on September 03, 2006, 08:25:52 PM
You have to run the engine to BREAK in the new rings before you ever try checking the compression!!!!!! Some say up to 500 miles
Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: gsxr400 racer on September 03, 2006, 09:24:26 PM
well i re rang my motor 3 times all times it relly never went above 145 all bores measured good and i check before after and during compression I just like to know and compare. but now i have 180-190 psi compression after i bored mine out . Not a sales pitch just sharing my experience.
Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: Thief400 on September 03, 2006, 11:04:16 PM
2 reasons Jay, First there is nothing better than a nice straight, true, freshly bores and honed cylinder to provide a good seal, second your cramming a larger volume of air into  the same size combustion chamber so the pressure is going to be higher.
Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: SRwitt on September 05, 2006, 01:19:09 AM
Ok, I didnt know about breaking the engine in first,  I had tried startingthe engine since the rebuild and it wouldnt start.  I got pops and sputters but it would never catch and start running.  From there I checked that I was getting fuel and spark.  Then I thought to do a compression test.  I got the battery charged yesterday and did all four cylinders with oil and they all tested at 145-170 psi.  I think I may just need to try some new spark plugs.
Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: gsxr400 racer on September 05, 2006, 01:22:10 AM
Quote from: Thief400
2 reasons Jay, First there is nothing better than a nice straight, true, freshly bores and honed cylinder to provide a good seal, second your cramming a larger volume of air into  the same size combustion chamber so the pressure is going to be higher.

 Okay ill buy that but then why does the manual list 140-145 as the lowest spec and 180-200 as the high?
Title: Compression Question, Kinda long
Post by: Thief400 on September 05, 2006, 01:05:32 PM
Machine tolerances and carbon deposits Jay