Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: meehacker on April 24, 2007, 10:57:18 PM
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If anyone is interested in frame sliders for your b400, then send an email to kevanw@sympatico.ca
I had Kevan make a pair for me, and they are brilliant. Everything down to the packaging was top-notch. :bigok:
They fit perfectly and look great.
Hopefully I never need to test them, but knowing the potential damage the bandit suffers just from tipping over, I think it's well worth the 65 bucks plus shipping.
(http://www.dpmtechservices.com/misc/DSC03160s.JPG)
Take care, and thanks to magicGoose (Steve) for the recommendation. Great folks.
Duane
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excellent more aftermarket parts If he could make them longer i may be interested in a set.
cheers
jay
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Just out of interest, what material is the main body made of?
I got a pair made up locally, and was told afterwards by someone else that they might crack if 'used' at speed, because the body was made from an inferior plastic. Fine for low speed drops, not for high speed.
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Hi have you got any photo's of them on the bike?
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I just put some on the other day too,same size and style,just white.
I chopped up some R1 aluminum slider mounts to fill in the little recess,then put the slider right on there.Worked great and cost little.
I thought about going longer too,but it would have looked goofy.I laid the bike over carefuly and it hit the slider before anything else.Nothing is garuanteed in a wreck,but its better than nothing at all.
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Hey Duane,
Glad to hear you're happy with the sliders. :thumb:
Here's a picture of mine on my filthy bike:
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c260/Stevek44/Black.jpg)
I am told that the plastic they are made of is Delrin, and yes, they can be made to any length you like. Anyone interested can contact the maker directly at the email Duane gave, or I can pass on messages to him also.
Regards,
Steve
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Double protection sliders and crash guards either your safest rider i know or a accident waiting to happen. LOL
cheers
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Lol, yeah, probably closer to the latter than the former. Or maybe I'm just the most paranoid rider you know!
Wanna see some pictures of my belt-and-suspenders setup?
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Hmm...I think I might order a set.
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Hmm...I think I might order a set.
Me too!
What is the turn around time?
G
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I've got some frame sliders similar to those. Sliders are definitely a good idea on the bandit with its exposed frame. Some bikes the tank sticks out further than the frame, not on the bandit - which makes the frame highly susceptible to being ground away if you drop it and it slides. I learned that the hard way and got my sliders after it'd happened, to stop further damage. Lucky it didn't wear too much off.
frame damage (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/edorp/IMG_9454e.jpg)
slider and repaired frame (http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e118/edorp/exhaust%20and%20crash%20bungs/IMG_9624.jpg)
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No imagine if your tank was bigger and was sliding along the pavement sparking till it ground a hole in the tank and KABOOM :stickpoke: Sliding fire ball! LOL
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The turn around time was very fast (7 business days from the time he had the material, but I supposewhere you are located may influence that).
And yes - the entire goal here is to save the vulnerable frame. I accidentally tipped mine over while breaking the bike down for powdercoating and put a very slight dent in it (more of a flat spot that nobody would see, but I know it's there). I also owned a bandit before this one that had a mangled frame tube on one side from an accident. It was very hard to fix and hide entirely. Hopefully the bike never goes down, especially with me on it, but I figure having the sliders on there would help a lot.
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No imagine if your tank was bigger and was sliding along the pavement sparking till it ground a hole in the tank and KABOOM :stickpoke: Sliding fire ball! LOL
I hadn't thought of that. I was thinking of the CB900 hornet and GSX1400, both of which it looks like the tank sticks out further than the frame/engine. I can't actually see where the frame is on those bikes.
Provided the tank didn't explode, you'd be better off with the tank getting damaged. Tanks are much easier and cheaper to repair or replace than a frame. With the damage to my frame, I'm worried my bike wouldn't pass a warrant of fitness (vehicles need them here to be allowed on the road)... so I bogged it and hid it as best I could...
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I was thinking of the CB900 hornet and GSX1400, both of which it looks like the tank sticks out further than the frame/engine. I can't actually see where the frame is on those bikes.
Provided the tank didn't explode, you'd be better off with the tank getting damaged. Tanks are much easier and cheaper to repair or replace than a frame.
You're not meant to see the frame on the Hornet. ;)
(http://www.boraski.com/hornet900/images/cb900f/large/frame2.jpg)
The Tank is definitely further out than the majority of the engine. (Not my favorite pic of any bike btw.)
(http://www.boraski.com/hornet900/images/cb900f/large/usa4.jpg)
When one of these bikes goes down, you get rash on the exhaust, a shaved tail feather, a rashed engine case, and a dented tank.
I think you'd have to be travelling pretty fast to make the tank explode. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing? (in real life,... not like,.. "torque" or something.)
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I am told that the plastic they are made of is Delrin
OK. The ones I have are made from Acetal, which is apparently a far from ideal material because under impact it is likely to shatter or chip.
Apparently the best stuff (what Oggy use for their knobs) is specially modified Nylon 66 [Nylotrol].
I dunno about Delrin, I'm not a materials expert.
Where did you get the engine crash bars?
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That was the best part about my old FZR600.....(the only bike Ive ever downed).....it had a plastic tank cover instead of a "real" gastank.It got scrapped up,but no fireballs and nothing hard to repair since I had other plastic to repair afterwards anyways.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/rentalguy/DSC01894.jpg)
Weak,how do you make the pics show up?
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You're not meant to see the frame on the Hornet. ;)
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Interesting photo. I wonder how it compares in terms of stiffness, strength and weight to the typical twin spar aluminium sportsbike frame?
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Weak,how do you make the pics show up?
I noticed you had an extra "p" on the end of your pic's url. Here's how you had it posted:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v286/rentalguy/DSC01894.jpgp)
Once I went in and edited your post to delete that last "p" the pic showed up just fine. :bandit:
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Here is a picture of mine. They are SV650 sliders. The SV sliders come as two different sizes. I took it to a machine shop where they milled the larger of the two to match the smaller one. They did it in under 5 minutes and didn't charge me. The hard part was the the aluminum insert. I had to cut one down with my Dremel tool. $65, that the guy is charging, is a good price.
(http://home.comcast.net/~duanelr1/seatbandit/front.JPG)
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Ive said before that i use the longest hyabusa ones available.
delrin is the material of choice.
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Interesting photo. I wonder how it compares in terms of stiffness, strength and weight to the typical twin spar aluminium sportsbike frame?
IIRC, I read something to the effect that it's a "flex frame", so it wouldn't be as stiff as a tube frame. The flex should give it some strength, in that it won't be as prone to snapping, as if it were more rigid. and, it's a steel frame, so it's heavy, but it's also fairly "small", so it's not excessively heavy. I would have to guess comparable, or maybe a little heavier.
Most people say that the 919 is "too" heavy, for a naked bike, so I wouldn't doubt if the frame is contributing to that.
All in all, for the type of riding I do,.. it's more than strong enough. I think if you were a serious hooligan, there might be problems long term, but then, I'm not an engineer, so I may be out to lunch. :wink:
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The $65 the guy is offering to sell pre made ones is a good price.
Yup,.. I think I paid $90Cdn for my Rizomas on the 919.
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Ive said before that i use the longest hyabusa ones available.
delrin is the material of choice.
So that's not a peg about to touch down in your pic, it's a frame slider? :stickpoke:
I have heard that you can get "too long". I think it's something to the effect that if they're too long, they can bend, instead and cause damage further up the chain of command? Sort of like when we use a snipe to get more leverage on a stuck bolt?
There's a term for this, but I can't think of it right now.
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cheater bar! yes mine bent when i crashed but did the job so maybe smaller are better i just like to put my feet on them on the cool down lap have to get a laugh some how if i don't win i act like its a chopper and stick my feet way out on them its my way of calling her a turd when she don't act right.
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cheater bar! yes mine bent when i crashed but did the job so maybe smaller are better i just like to put my feet on them on the cool down lap have to get a laugh some how if i don't win i act like its a chopper and stick my feet way out on them its my way of calling her a turd when she don't act right.
LMAO!! When Dita doesn't act right, I make her sleep in the shed with the Honda. Oh wait,.. I do that even if she behaves. ;)
I've been known to put my feet up on the pucks on the 919, just to stretch my legs out after a while. It does work,.. and it's better than stretching toward the ground and misjudging the distance to the pavement. I did that once at ~70mph. There was some serious pucker factor there for a second.
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Where did you get the engine crash bars?
Sorry, dunno where they are originally from, I got them with the bike, then heavily modified them.
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I just received my custom frame sliders from Kevan (see original post) and I must say, WOW! These things are great! Excellent price, quick shipping...but the sliders themselves are great. They include new bolts and spacers for the frame, and the packaging was excellent (all in their own little "cube" of foam..not just thrown into a bag).
I HIGHLY recommend! :D
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Just won a pair off EBAY (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AEOIBSAA%3AUS%3A11&viewitem=&item=220129098762).
$2.50 plus $5 shipping!
Of course, they're for an R6
...and there's no mounting bolts
...and the aluminum spacers don't look quite the same.
But for $7.50, I figured what the hell! :grin:
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so many deals :stickpoke:
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But for $7.50, I figured what the hell! :grin:
Wicked deal -- ebay is evil. I've got lots of parts sitting around that I don't really need, but I couldn't pass them up because they were such a great deal.
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I got myself some Oggy Knobs made by Promoto (based in Melbourne), went to put them on and after fitting the right hand side found the supplied bolt for the left hand side wasn't long enough :sad:
I rang them and the designs they had showed the left and right bolts should be the same length, the original bolts from my bike were 55mm on the right, 65mm on the left.
When I rang they had said they'd either make up a different knob or supply a different bolt but that was a week ago and haven't heard anything since.
Has anyone else had this problem when fitting crash protectors/frame sliders that are designed for the b250?
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I get my own bolts and use what ever is cheapest on ebay and the length i want