Bandit Alley
MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: Trikksta on October 30, 2006, 07:49:12 PM
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I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, or if the Fuel Petcock is F'd on my bike.
This was my first season with the Bandit (91 400) and I'm putting it away for the winter :crybaby: . I switched the petcock to what I'd assume is the 'OFF' position, all the way up. I find it strange that it only labels ON (down position) and RES (to the left). So, I assume there's no PRIME position and OFF is the up position.
Anyways, with the petcock in the assumed OFF position, I run the bike to drain the carbs. It keeps running and running and running.... Finally, I shut off the bike and try the carb drain screws. They just keep draining and draining and draining....
Any help would be awesome.
:beers:
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Down is "ON"
Left is "RESERVE"
Up is "PRIME"
There is no "OFF" position or atleast thats what I think. But the Up position is Prime for sure.
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Try the Half-Way point between Reserve and Prime, That actually may be the Off Position.
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There is no "off" position. Either "reserve" or "on" acts as "off" when the bike is not running. When the petcock is in the "on" or "reserve" position fuel only runs through when the motor is running as it is activated with vacuum from the intake to carb 1.
So if the bike is not running you should just leave it in the "on" position and this will effectively be the same as being "off".
Hope this helps
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Down is "ON"
Left is "RESERVE"
Up is "PRIME"
This is correct
There is no "off" position. Either "reserve" or "on" acts as "off" when the bike is not running. When the petcock is in the "on" or "reserve" position fuel only runs through when the motor is running as it is activated with vacuum from the intake to carb 1.
So if the bike is not running you should just leave it in the "on" position and this will effectively be the same as being "off".
Hope this helps
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Thanks guys, that would explain my problem.
So then, with a vacuum operated petcock, I can drain the carbs with the petcock in the 'on' position, and it won't continue to feed fuel to the carbs, correct????
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Yes, that would be 100% correct. Except if your petcock is F#@%ed!!!
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Perfect, Thanks devilears.
I need to invest in a service manual for the bike. This site is very helpful tho.
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There's a free downloadable copy of the manual in the Member's section. If you look around the 400 forum a bit, you'll see that F#$)*d petcocks are pretty common.
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From what I've read it does not lead me to believe your fuel tap is f'ed. If you turn the knob to the "UP" position you've just turned the bike to "PRIME" which is FULL ON FUEL NO VACUUM REQUIRED.
If you turn the fuel tap back to "ON" and disconnect the fuel line from the tank, does the fuel tap still leak?? If not drain your carbs using the screws at the bottom and then reconnect your fuel line to your tank. If it the petcock leaks in the "ON" position without vacuum, then your fuel tap is f'ed.
Next year when you want to start the bike turn the fuel tap the "PRIME" for 30 seconds or so then start the bike. Easy.
What part of Ontario are you from?
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So then, with a vacuum operated petcock, I can drain the carbs with the petcock in the 'on' position, and it won't continue to feed fuel to the carbs, correct????
The fuel tank will continue to feed the carbs with the tap "ON" if you are running the bike.
If you don't want to drain your tank then leave the petcock "ON", disconnect fuel line from the tank (or the vacuum line... or both, take your pick), and use the screws to drain the float bowls. Reconnect everything and you're good.
*Edit (it was late and my brain wasn't fully working) actually if you leave the fuel tap "ON", and use the screws you're fine. No need to disconnect anything. No motor running, no vacuum to fuel tap, no gas comes out.
If you want to run the float bowls dry disconnect the vacuum line or fuel line from the petcock.
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Thanks for all the help guys, I have successfully drained the carbs and stored my bike. The good news is my petcock isn't F'd, the bad news is I can't ride for a few months.
PitterB4 thanks for the heads up, I'll try and find that download manual. And interfuse, I live just down the 401 from ya - Waterloo.
:beers:
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And interfuse, I live just down the 401 from ya - Waterloo.
Any good roads by ya? My grandparents live in Stratford and I hit Highway 7/8 regularly. I was born in Kitchener so I'm sorta familer with your area.
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You know the area then.
There's lots of decent country roads, there's a couple places we like to ride to. Mainly to and around Elora, also from Cambridge to Paris, and also up to Belfountain. Belfountain is realy nice - lots of curves, good scenery. I'm sure you may have been there since it's up around Caledon.
Let me know on any other good roads. This is my first season riding a street bike, so I'm looking for some good places to tour.
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Hey Trikksta,
I live in Kitchener, Just bought my 91 B4.
Wow, two 1991 Bandit 400's in the same small city. :motorsmile:
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Can't ya just feel the Canuck love??? :stickpoke: How many feet of snow do you guys have so far? :monkeymoon:
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Hey Trikksta,
I live in Kitchener, Just bought my 91 B4.
Wow, two 1991 Bandit 400's in the same small city. :motorsmile:
Right on dude! We'll have to get out riding in the spring.
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Can't ya just feel the Canuck love??? :stickpoke: How many feet of snow do you guys have so far? :monkeymoon:
HAHAHA,
BRING ON THA SNOW!!!
BTW, thanks for the heads up on the manual. It's much easier to work on the bike not having to guess at everything.
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Let me know on any other good roads. This is my first season riding a street bike, so I'm looking for some good places to tour.
This link has a pretty good list of roads in Ontario (and beyond). I'm sure KW has a forum too... just might not be as busy as the GTA site.
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=4998a3f358c5ccd6d65564e2a520487c
Snakes Road and Forks of the Credit are both worthy of a road trip.
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Can't ya just feel the Canuck love??? :stickpoke: How many feet of snow do you guys have so far? :monkeymoon:
Bah, no snow here yet! I was out riding this weekend. It was +10 degrees celcius tonight (50 degrees in your archaic system). Last winter we got almost no snow here (thanks global warming!) so this year I'm not even going to bother putting the bike to sleep.
Riding all year baby! :banana:
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Lucky Torontonians. Unfortunately, Kitchener is like Siberia in the winter.
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Last friday I was out riding my B4 when all of a sudden it started snowing!
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This link has a pretty good list of roads in Ontario (and beyond). I'm sure KW has a forum too... just might not be as busy as the GTA site.
http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=4998a3f358c5ccd6d65564e2a520487c
Snakes Road and Forks of the Credit are both worthy of a road trip.
Thanks, that's a great link to have.
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Yeah, I got my bike back out cause of this warm weather. We've only had one decent snowfal, it's gone now. The trouble is they salted the roads already. I hate salt.
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Yeah, I got my bike back out cause of this warm weather. We've only had one decent snowfal, it's gone now. The trouble is they salted the roads already. I hate salt.
With all the rain we've been getting for the past few days, must have washed all the salt away by now. Good news is: next three days are full of warm weather and sunshine :)
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Did either of you two canadians from kitchener buy the bike from someone on craigslist? When I saw the picture of Trikksta's bike it reminded me of the picture in the forsale ad. A buddy of my was thinking about going to look at it... but it would have been too gay if when both had the same bike. LOL. So He ended up with a cb-1.
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You got er interfuse, the Bandit you seen on Craig’s List a few months back is now mine :motorsmile: . It turned out to be in great shape and well maintained, just like the dude selling it let on in his sales pitch.
That's sweet your buddy got a CB1. Funny cause the two bikes I was searching for this summer were the GSF400 or the CB1-400, obviously I ended up with the Bandit. I can't afford insurance on anything over a 400 for now.
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how much did you buy it? what year?
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Good choice mate. I'm biased, but the bandit is definately quicker and nicer looking. :wink:
Booth have lots of punch for insurance value.
I've never seen a black one in person. How white does that sound. :beers: Congratz.
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LOL. Thanks Mike. I think it’s the better choice too, and am very happy with the Bandit.
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how much did you buy it? what year?
I paid $2500 for my Bandit – A lot more than I wanted to pay. The bike is in incredible condition though, still has its factory shine, and so far has been 100%. After seeing and riding this bike, it was impossible for me to go home without it in the back of my truck.
Mine's a 91 too.
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Thats a fair price for that bike. I paid the same for mine a few years back, but mine turned out to be a dogs arse with a hat on. Now that I've fixed the countless problems, its been a dream.
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I paid $2400, safetied and cert.
But I seem to have this electrical recharging problem somewhere. Its kinda affecting my whole experience with motorcycles. <- Maybe if my bike would start without me pushstarting it, i would have had a much better riding experience. :boohoo:
The owners of my bike kept the bike in good condition too, except for the recharging problem of course.
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Hey Stealth, I'd change the rectifier. Try and get this one:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/SUZUKI-BANDIT-GSF400-GSF-REGULATOR-RECTIFIER_W0QQitemZ180052021490QQihZ008QQcategoryZ10534QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Ya I thought so too but the tests I conducted indicated that my reg/rec was working fine.
:boohoo:
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*Edit (it was late and my brain wasn't fully working) actually if you leave the fuel tap "ON", and use the screws you're fine. No need to disconnect anything. No motor running, no vacuum to fuel tap, no gas comes out.
If you want to run the float bowls dry disconnect the vacuum line or fuel line from the petcock.
Hello, im new with b4 and i saw that when I set the fuel tap "ON" there's gasoline leak from the tap. But if I set the tap to "RESERVE" position, it's stop leaking and fine.
Is my fuel tap f'ed ???
and is it difficult to fix it? or you have to replace it with the new one? how much will it be approximately?
thks a lot!! :thanks:
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Hello, im new with b4 and i saw that when I set the fuel tap "ON" there's gasoline leak from the tap. But if I set the tap to "RESERVE" position, it's stop leaking and fine.
Is my fuel tap f'ed ???
and is it difficult to fix it? or you have to replace it with the new one? how much will it be approximately?
thks a lot!! :thanks:
How much gas are we talking about? It's normal to have a few drips when the gas is "ON" with no vaccum, until the fuel tap clears itself out. If its constant then you've probably got a problem.
The fuel tap isn't rebuildable so you'd have to replace it. A new one from Suzuki is probably in the range of $120 (I paid $140 cdn). It's pretty easy to change yourself if the bolts come out easy.
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How much gas are we talking about? It's normal to have a few drips when the gas is "ON" with no vaccum, until the fuel tap clears itself out. If its constant then you've probably got a problem.
The fuel tap isn't rebuildable so you'd have to replace it. A new one from Suzuki is probably in the range of $120 (I paid $140 cdn). It's pretty easy to change yourself if the bolts come out easy.
I never let it leak..cause im afraid it could trigger a fire or something.. so when i saw it's leaking, i just turn it to RESERVE.
It's not dripping a lot...i knew it's leaking because i smelled the gasoline, and saw the area of the fuel tap is wet, then immediately turn it back to RES.
How come it's not leaking in RES position? or is it normal that the fuel tap is wet during ON position?and i should let it longer to see if it's dried itself completely...
thks again!! :grin: