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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: land-warrior.rus on August 21, 2006, 08:06:36 AM

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: land-warrior.rus on August 21, 2006, 08:06:36 AM

Hi everyone. I have a GSF 400 Bandit 1994 and only a few days ago i notesed that there are different ones out there. Whats the difference between 400P and 400N? Is there any other ones? How do i find out witch one is mine? Just was thinking bout ordering some parts from BikeBandit.com and notesed different parts bor differen Bandits. Wouldnt like to get the parts that dont fit :?:
Do the parts from 1993 bandit match 1994?
Thanks a mill.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: Farre on August 21, 2006, 11:22:08 AM

Hmm, from looking at the microfich there are 3 main versions: M,N & P
I'm pretty sure i have an M, i think these are the standards. N versions have 2 discs in front and prolly some other small differences.
P is a mystery to me... perhaps the '96-97 models?

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: interfuse on August 21, 2006, 01:02:26 PM

I've been wrong before, but I believe the letters indicate the year.

Example

1991 = M
1992 = N
1993 = P

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: land-warrior.rus on August 21, 2006, 01:03:27 PM

So if my Bandit is 1994 and it has one front break disk its more likely to be a P????!
Thanks

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: wyntrblue on August 21, 2006, 01:19:58 PM

my vp has twin front breaks......

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: GK75A on August 21, 2006, 03:10:41 PM

single front disc usually means you`ve got a uk bike

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: land-warrior.rus on August 21, 2006, 03:57:37 PM

So , there no letter specification for my bike then. And i have some writing in italian and the guy a bought it from told me it was an import from italy. Was there a special Italian edition ever? Dont think so.
So what parts should i be ordering for my Bandit then?

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: Brit-400 on August 25, 2006, 12:37:36 AM

I beleive mine's a 'k' - its an '89 jap bike. Twin discs, stainless system etc.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: andrewsw on August 25, 2006, 12:28:15 PM

Quote

single front disc usually means you`ve got a uk bike

both my US '91 and '93 had single disc front. :?:

Is there a definitive source of model numbers and options?

Would be great to put in an FAQ around here (maybe one already, but I haven't found it).

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: Farre on August 25, 2006, 01:05:14 PM

i remember reading in the Manual other codes, which then determined the country the bike's coming from,
E-02 : England
E-03 : USA, except California
E-04 : France
E-21 : Belgium
E-22 : West Germany
E-24 : Australia
E-25 : Netherlands
E-28 : Canada
E-33 : California
E-34 : Italy

these codes are found on the frame, on my bike it's on a white sticker near the front... i think

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: land-warrior.rus on August 25, 2006, 07:29:22 PM

Cheers mate. Will have a look tomorow where mine is from!!!
Nice one.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: Farre on August 27, 2006, 06:16:13 AM

huh... I checked on my bike and it's E-13, not on the list i gave earlier. It's coming from a French speaking country, that much is certain... Perhaps from Luxemburg?

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: Herr Tod on August 27, 2006, 09:53:43 AM

E13 is a safety check for components used in transportation. My V.I.N. plate is French too and it's a West-German bike.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: mgTagGD on August 27, 2006, 12:08:00 PM

Valve clearence differs in P model.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: gsxr400 racer on August 27, 2006, 12:17:58 PM

Really and whats the valve clearance?

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: mgTagGD on August 27, 2006, 12:34:44 PM

According to original suzuki manual

N model (92) :
IN 0.10-0.15mm(0.004-0.006in)
EX 0.15-0.20mm(0.006-0.008)

P model (93) :
IN 0.13-0.18mm(0.005-0.007in)
EX 0.20-0.25mm(0.008.0.010in)

And now that i reviewed the numbers i remembered that last time i adjusted the valves althought i have the P( the only reason i know is a P was a sticker under the seat when i bought it, now the sticker is gone! i think it had a label P) i adjusted with the N numbers :duh:  :congrats:

Well IN is almost the same but EX differs a lot.
I hope this will not give me any trouble , engine runs fine and it rocks!
I am willing to adjust again soon.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: gsxr400 racer on August 27, 2006, 12:39:28 PM

cool thanks wonder what the p model cams look like that they need that much more clearance.

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: mgTagGD on August 27, 2006, 01:32:27 PM

i dont have any specs on this , but you can take a look here!
http://goozlo.com/images/suzuki_GSF400P.zip

P model realy kicks at 6.000 rpm once , and the again at 8.000rpm

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: land-warrior.rus on August 28, 2006, 03:24:28 PM

is there any other way to find out wich one is my bike as im thinking about adjusting the valves and dont really fancy doing the wrong clearance.
Cheers

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: mgTagGD on September 01, 2006, 12:14:16 PM

look at this site , i dont know any Japanise , but i think that from the range of the VIN you can identify the year

http://www.bands.ne.jp/faq/faq-yr-400.html   this the most clear about the year.
http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~igu/ff400.html
http://www.tzhd.net/bbs/TopicOther.asp?t=5&BoardID=128&id=16902
http://www.geocities.jp/kohjihata/bike/others/bikemodel.html
http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~cde33290/TEAMBANDS/Technical-Information/setting-1.htm

Title: GSF 400P v GSF 400N...Whats the difference?
Post by: land-warrior.rus on September 01, 2006, 06:17:52 PM

Cheers Panakos. Thats cool. Will start looking through now.
Thanks again!!!