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MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: duane on March 12, 2006, 05:07:52 PM

Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: duane on March 12, 2006, 05:07:52 PM: It's still in transit. This summer I'm going to travel on my b4 and it seemed like good insurance to have a backup zip-tied under the seat. What pushed me over the edge to get it was that BikeBandit had OEM versions for nearly $500. I spent just a little over $120 for mine. When I get it, I'll install it and let others know how well it works. Has anyone else purchased one of these?

The box (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4617297206&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT)

Duane
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: PitterB4 on March 12, 2006, 08:20:42 PM: Cool! :bigok: If it works, it's a pretty good bargain.
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: b4cruz on March 12, 2006, 08:50:45 PM: It be great to have people share thier experiences with these:

http://www.carmo.nl/models/SUZUKI/GSF400%20Bandit.htm

http://www.cdiunit.co.uk/process.asp?make=SUZUKI&models=GSF400+BANDIT&Submit.x=49&Submit.y=8

or whatever other boxes they have had luck or loss with
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: duane on April 05, 2006, 12:30:48 AM: I installed my new CDI, here are the pics:

Here is the box it came in.
(http://home.comcast.net/~duanelr1/cdibox.JPG)

It's solid, literally. It's heavier than stock so I would guess it's filled with resin. That's how we use to build electronics that would see hard usage when I worked at a sound company.
(http://home.comcast.net/~duanelr1/cdi_installed.JPG)

I ran the engine with it installed and there was no difference. I've put it in a ziplock bag and zip-tied it under the seat. It's Kind of like an insurance policy now.
(http://home.comcast.net/~duanelr1/cdi_zipped.JPG)
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: Krautwagen on April 05, 2006, 07:48:15 PM: Rock on man

Thanks for being the test mule :motorsmile:
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: doqq on January 24, 2007, 01:09:25 AM: so hows the box running so far? any complaints? I think i need a new cdi too.
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: duane on January 25, 2007, 03:37:39 AM: The CDI is running just fine, without incident.
Duane
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: doqq on January 30, 2007, 12:18:48 AM: has anyone else bought this cdi that can validate its reliability?
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: doqq on January 31, 2007, 02:30:51 AM: well, I took the plunge and ordered the cdi unit on ebay. I'll let you guys know how it turns out when I get my bike running again. I also have a 91' gsxr front end that i'm still getting new brake pads and tires for that i want to swap with. I cant wait to get this thing running right. It's been at least a year since ive ridden it. im so anxious right now. :thanks: :beers:
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: Farre on February 06, 2007, 01:32:52 PM: i have bought the Argentinan CDI and it works flawlessly! Hmm i think i did about 7000km's with it, so that' already something :-)
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: CWO4GUNNER on February 06, 2007, 05:41:58 PM: Part of my previous expertise was in hydraulics, pneumatics, and electronics. I don't know the specifications on that device but most solid state components even board components require some cooling. I would lose the plastic bad as it could imped cooling if required and actually hold water or moisture if trapped.

Quote from: "duane"
I've put it in a ziplock bag and zip-tied it under the seat. It's Kind of like an insurance policy now.
(http://home.comcast.net/~duanelr1/cdi_zipped.JPG)
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: duane on February 07, 2007, 04:15:53 PM: Quote
I would lose the plastic bad as it could imped cooling if required and actually hold water or moisture if trapped.

Uhhh... The new CDI is a backup, a spare. It lives under my seat until I need it. I keep it in a zip lock bag to keep dust and water off of it until it's needed.
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: CWO4GUNNER on February 07, 2007, 04:40:11 PM: Somehow I missed that part LOL. Well anyway as they used to say on "Saturday Night Live" , Nevermind!

Quote from: "duane"
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I would lose the plastic bad as it could imped cooling if required and actually hold water or moisture if trapped.

Uhhh... The new CDI is a backup, a spare. It lives under my seat until I need it. I keep it in a zip lock bag to keep dust and water off of it until it's needed.
Title: The CDI works perfectly!
Post by: Kenyan01 on February 11, 2007, 02:50:22 AM: My battery got here, and I fixed my bike, and everything works well! Except my American wiring loom and my attempts to turn it into a euro loom!
Those mexican CDIs do work great. The starting is so instant, the bike runs well... idling is a problem but I am sure it is a revs/carb issue.
I am now looking for cash to buy a spare one like duane!
Best regards,
P.
Title: CDIs are interchangeable, at least some!
Post by: Kenyan01 on February 14, 2007, 02:45:27 AM: Hi!
I have always wanted to know why a CDI from one Bandit 400 would not work on another.
I have learnt from my own experience that the CDIs are somewhat interchangeable. I bought the Argentinian CDI, sent them the correct number on my original CDi but they posted a different number with the reassurance that it will work. It works, perfectly!
In the process of installing my new wiring loom, I realized my signal generator wire was cut, and as I was removing it to solder it back together, I found the reason why CDIs should be interchangeable. The signal generator picks signals from a plate like thingy inside the LH engine cover that has (5 small and 1 big) projections off it, that is run by the crankshaft, telling the position of the pistons in the cyliders. So, as long as the CDI is from a similiar model bike, it will pick the same signal and relay the same info to the CDI...
May be I am wrong, but in my case it worked. Anyone with a different view of this?
Patrick.
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: Bartjan on February 14, 2007, 02:48:32 AM: its not about the crankshafts position that other cdi dont work, thats the same on all b4s
the 93+ models have a restriction on 5th and 5th gear with extra connectors, so their not interchangeble with pre 93 models
vv models have something special also :monkeymoon:
Title: You are right!
Post by: Kenyan01 on February 14, 2007, 07:16:17 AM: Bartjan,
I agree with you there. V V model and newer (post-92) B4s may have some differences in their ROM that would make it not possible to interchange with older models. But I suppose pre-92 bandits should not have major differences.

Best regards,
Patrick.
Title: I purchased one of those Argentinean CDI boxes on Ebay
Post by: Herr Tod on February 14, 2007, 12:42:26 PM: As far as I know there are two different types of timing plates (starter clutches), the one with a big notch on which the arrow is placed, and one with a small arrow notch. The small ones are most probably '93 and later models. I've had a '94 starter clutch (small notch) with a '92 CDI, all it did was idle, didn't climb beyond 3500 RPM and would just die if the throttle was touched. Changed the plates and voila, it ran like it's supposed to.