Bandit Alley

MODEL SPECIFIC => SUZUKI BANDIT 250 & 400 => Topic started by: Krautwagen on July 13, 2005, 02:09:17 AM

Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Krautwagen on July 13, 2005, 02:09:17 AM
Who's done it and what parts did you use?  I'm just looking into this...
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Red01 on July 13, 2005, 02:32:01 AM
You can run BMC 3092 pods with a jet kit, both of which are still available from Factory-Pro (http://www.factorypro.com/)
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Krautwagen on July 13, 2005, 11:44:59 PM
Thanks Paul

I can't find a price on their site for them though, do you happen to know how much?
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Red01 on July 14, 2005, 02:12:22 AM
You'd have to contact them.
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Krautwagen on July 15, 2005, 12:16:32 AM
Called them today, dude on the phone wasn't very helpful  :sad:

$125 is what they want for them, out of stock though.

Looks like all the K&N filters with a 2.25" base only go down to 3.5" O.D at the base, which seems too tight to fit on the close carb spacing of the bandito...

I might look into UNI's...
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: jasonlarrow on July 15, 2005, 12:51:39 AM
K&N filter RU-1824.  You can get them at autozone for $90
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Maniac on July 16, 2005, 01:10:38 PM
BMC 3092 direct from BMC... $75

http://www.bmcairfilter.com/infoBK3.asp
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: gsxr400 racer on July 16, 2005, 01:48:34 PM
Hey Maniac i have some sweet polished carb block that came with my gsxr and the 33mm carbs that you can have if your running idividual pods
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Maniac on July 16, 2005, 02:13:40 PM
Well, right now I'm running a K&N but we're already running into severe lean conditions at high RPM. I need to talk to my builder about the possiblity of going to pods, since I know they will aggrivate the situation. If we end up putting a fuel pump in to fix the fuel delivery problems, I think I'll definatly go with pods since I think a pump will make the mixture go way rich.

It's a balancing act, but this thing will snort fire when we're done with it. I figure I'll get a year or two of street riding then have all new seals put in and convert her to a track bike.  :bigok:
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: TheKillerB on July 16, 2005, 07:36:54 PM
There was a guy who posted to the old board that used the handle Stout510 (I think it was) and had individual filters.  He sold the bike, but the pic of them is still on bicpics.com.  Here they are, anybody know what brand?

(http://wwwsvc01.ninja.ev1.bikepics.net/pics/suzuki-bandit400-92-bikepics-190513.jpg)
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: gsxr400 racer on July 16, 2005, 07:38:38 PM
BMC"S
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: TheKillerB on July 16, 2005, 07:49:23 PM
So the BMC filter number that maniac listed above (which Factory Pro mentions on their site) is a double filter where as the ones on that bike are individual pods.  Which is better for the bandit carbs?
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: gsxr400 racer on July 16, 2005, 08:12:07 PM
id go with the idividual ones when i had the stock carbs on my g4 i had k&n idividual ones and loved them I have velocity stacks now!
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Spacey86 on July 17, 2005, 10:48:42 AM
Hey dudes. I was looking at putting pods on my carbs and was wandering, as i live in England it rains a lot, would i have a problem of water getting into the carbs Etc ?
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Maniac on July 17, 2005, 12:38:59 PM
Nah, the carbs are up above the engine and still behind the side covers...

Water in the air as rain/mist isn't really going to hurt anything, although if you drive into water deep enough to have water going over the filters you'll probally suck some up. But then, if your that deep, you have other worries!
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Thief400 on July 17, 2005, 05:46:42 PM
If you put on the pod filters you can't reinstall the side covers as they use to screw into the airbox. I just finish over 60 dyno pulls and there is no HP advantage to going with the pods, infact there is a dip in  the midrange torque with them!!  highest  hp to date is 68.9 @ 12550 with 65hp still @ 13750. Going to take it to the drag strip in 2 weeks and see if I can better my best et of 13.42 @ 96 MPH
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Krautwagen on July 17, 2005, 05:47:11 PM
I picked up some UNI UN-4229's from the local shop.  I don't think they will work without some trimming.  Cyl's 1&2 and 3&4 are so close together that there is not much room for individual filters...  I have no idea how that guy got the individual BMC pods to work  :shock:

The BMC dual filters look like a good option (but I'm too poor right now).  Spacey86, I don't think you'll be able to run side covers on a pod filter setup as they stick out from the carbs without tapering in severly.

My next step is to get a sheet of the UNI foam and lay that down in the airbox, and swiss cheese the airbox top with a hole saw...
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Maniac on July 17, 2005, 07:31:34 PM
Quote from: "Thief400"
If you put on the pod filters you can't reinstall the side covers as they use to screw into the airbox.


Mine don't.  :shock:

Mine clip in at the frame and gas tank. There are some screw eyelits, but they don't actually in line up with anything, so I don't use them.


Quote from: "Thief400"
highest hp to date is 68.9 @ 12550


Good Lord!  :shock:

What'd you do to that motor, strap a nitrous bottle onto it?
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: gsxr400 racer on July 17, 2005, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: "Thief400"
 highest  hp to date is 68.9 @ 12550 with 65hp still @ 13750. Going to take it to the drag strip in 2 weeks and see if I can better my best et of 13.42 @ 96 MPH


All right whats the story thats more than ive ever had , and damn near imposible with out motor mods considering stock they make 55hp! you made almost 70hp ! 15 more hp spill the beans yo!
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: PitterB4 on July 17, 2005, 09:40:52 PM
Quote from: "gsxr400 racer"
Quote from: "Thief400"
 highest  hp to date is 68.9 @ 12550 with 65hp still @ 13750. Going to take it to the drag strip in 2 weeks and see if I can better my best et of 13.42 @ 96 MPH


All right whats the story thats more than ive ever had , and damn near imposible with out motor mods considering stock they make 55hp! you made almost 70hp ! 15 more hp spill the beans yo!


LOL - I knew that # would provoke you, Jay!   :lol:


Mine don't.  

Quote from: "Maniac"
Mine clip in at the frame and gas tank. There are some screw eyelits, but they don't actually in line up with anything, so I don't use them.


They should line up with the front threaded hole in your airbox.  The rear one attaches the airbox to the frame.  [insert headscratch emoticon here]
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: Thief400 on July 18, 2005, 02:25:13 AM
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All right whats the story thats more than ive ever had , and damn near imposible with out motor mods considering stock they make 55hp! you made almost 70hp ! 15 more hp spill the beans yo!


Can't give away all of my secrets  lol  But here are a few, slotting the cam sprokets and doing over 20 pulls finding the right combination of cam timing. Modifing the ignition pickup as to make it adjustable. Fine tuning the jetting with a wide band O2 sensor, And to get the final few hp's VP's newest fuel  MR9 which is an awsome fuel 10% more power than any other fuel we have tested. 3% more power than my old fuel MR1. Oh and Mobil 1 oil
Title: Individual Air Filters...
Post by: arimichael on October 30, 2005, 01:50:57 PM
Sorry to necromance an old topic but I need a little info. For those of you running pod air filters, what jets are you using? I'm in central OH so elevation isn't much of an issue.